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Gannon quit whining that your kid lost and quit blaming it on sickness c/i -- No name, 18:07:43 10/12/10 Tue [37]
Why would you make your child compete sick anyways?!Sounds like child abuse to me!Like when you made her compete in a CAST!So sad!The kid will never have a life because of a fat slob of a mother!You're disgusting Gannon!

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- Call CPS and quit bitching! (NT) -- No name, 18:32:08 10/12/10 Tue
- Are you talking about D Tye? (NT) -- No name, 18:50:53 10/12/10 Tue
  - JP mind your own business stop worrying about ET (NT) -- No name, 19:32:32 10/12/10 Tue
    - I am sick and tired of you bringing my name up EVERYTIME her's is mentioned. I posted nothing unil now LEAVE ME ALONE (NT) -- No name, 21:21:24 10/12/10 Tue
      - DT uses the 'sick' excuse evertime she loses at a pageant, like she did here. (NT) -- No name, 23:08:51 10/12/10 Tue
        
        this is debbie click in loser -- No name, 00:06:50 10/13/10 Wed
        
        So why did you make her compete...sad. (NT) -- No name, 02:20:08 10/13/10 Wed
        
        Yes, it is sad if it is really true; but too many of these moms make up stories when their dd's lose. (NT) -- No name, 06:27:57 10/13/10 Wed
        
        debbie here... she didnt start "getting sick'" until after she competed. C/I -- No name, 08:42:04 10/13/10 Wed
        
        Yes, everytime she loses it's a different excuse. Sounds like she wasn't sick when; -- No name, 10:39:07 10/13/10 Wed
        
        umm did I say anything about her losing?? NO you did!! YOU are the one that started this not me (NT) -- All I said was that she was sick, not that it was reason she didnt win, 12:41:39 10/13/10 Wed
        ur so stupid if you are just about to get sick it effects you (NT) -- No name, 22:14:37 10/15/10 Fri
- No,Gannon Bradley (NT) -- No name, 18:59:40 10/12/10 Tue
- SHUT UP ERICA REYNOLDS, EUGENIA GALL, NICKI DAVIS (NT) -- LEAVE GANNON AND PENNY ALONE BITCHES!!!!!!!!!!, 21:28:06 10/12/10 Tue
  - this is a funny one N is a head Coach and coached or coaches penny (NT) -- DUHHHHH, 13:30:29 10/13/10 Wed
- I don't know about this post but when (NT) -- No name, 21:49:40 10/12/10 Tue
  - I don't know about this post about sickness but when Penny was in cast her mom kept her out of pageants for almost a month! (NT) -- No name, 21:50:59 10/12/10 Tue
    - Penny LOVES pageants! Bunch of haters! Your life must really suck! (NT) -- No name, 21:51:50 10/12/10 Tue
      - JEALOUS MUCH OF A BABY?!? (NT) -- GET A LIFE, 21:53:03 10/12/10 Tue
- Little Penny is a superstar sick or not! You go baby girl! (NT) -- No name, 22:07:03 10/12/10 Tue
- penny looks like an orange troll with tranny makeup and BAD hair!Lol!Nobody is jealous bitch! (NT) -- She looks just like her ugly ass fuckin FAT mom!GET REAL!, 22:23:40 10/12/10 Tue
  - Bashing a 3yr old? Grow up! -- Sucks2beyou, 23:59:04 10/12/10 Tue
    - OMG I totally agree! They are kids, and the "grown ups" (using the term loosely) are the ones acting like Jr High bullies. (NT) -- No name, 16:48:28 10/13/10 Wed
- tTt (NT) -- No name, 22:48:11 10/12/10 Tue
  - Sick or not she's still better than yours -- No name, 00:02:45 10/13/10 Wed
- Child abuse? Seriously, please tell me you aren't that stupid?!! -- No name, 00:18:43 10/13/10 Wed
  - gannon makes me want to vomit and pb is FAR from a superstar lmao!troll i agree (NT) -- No name, 09:17:41 10/13/10 Wed
    - I don't understand how TKOS can bash other TKOS!!! (NT) -- The bashing TKOS are NB, ER, AE, EG, please stop, we are sick of you four!!!, 09:23:56 10/13/10 Wed
      - ddd (NT) -- No name, 02:58:40 10/14/10 Thu
    - Please vomit your guts out. -- No name, 09:51:26 10/13/10 Wed
- Love this mom and kid! So sweet, so helpful! And the child is adorable...it's people like op that give pageants a bad name! (NT) -- No name, 10:07:42 10/13/10 Wed
  - oh shutup Leslie,youre a dumbass wannabe (NT) -- No name, 12:19:22 10/13/10 Wed
- NB, EG, LR are all wanna be but they are all ulgy ass losers (NT) -- No name, 13:28:51 10/13/10 Wed
  - This post is so stupid get a life ER (NT) -- NB is an owner of TKO, 13:34:57 10/13/10 Wed
- Are you all for real here GB and LR are best buds but they compete (NT) -- its LR doing this to stir trouble, 13:33:15 10/13/10 Wed
- child abusers (NT) -- No name, 15:48:19 10/14/10 Thu
Erica Reynolds is a fat ass jealous bitch!!! She is a snake and as two-faced as they come! -- No name, 22:12:59 10/12/10 Tue [19]
I have heard her personally talk about Penny and Gannon but she kisses ass to their face because she a nobody looking in and trying to fit in! No one, and I repeat no one (except Nicki and she's a jealous nobody bitch anyway) likes you! She was so excited to tie with Penny this weekend and that's pathetic! It took Penny throwing up on her ooc and hacking on
Stage to even tie with her! Go to he'll you jealous bitch! You will never be them! Your ugly kid will never be as good as Penny and you will always take back seat to them! Stop trying!

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- So True (NT) -- No name, 09:45:42 10/13/10 Wed
- She talks so bad and Penny and other tkos! She a bitch! (NT) -- No name, 12:22:54 10/13/10 Wed
- She cannot stand it because her kid has NEVER beat Penny! It's sad! (NT) -- No name, 14:55:01 10/13/10 Wed
- bella is much prettier than penny any day in my opinion,yall need to get a life! (NT) -- No name, 15:32:33 10/13/10 Wed
- Ok Mom! Of bellas prettier why has she never beat penny??? Not one single time?!? (NT) -- No name, 16:24:39 10/13/10 Wed
  - man to man -- buddy, 19:07:01 10/13/10 Wed
  - y no name -- buddy, 19:17:09 10/13/10 Wed
    - john french at work (NT) -- No name, 20:50:44 10/13/10 Wed
      - aew (NT) -- No name, 02:57:09 10/14/10 Thu
- You do realize you're talking about CHILDREN, right? Whackjobs... (NT) -- No name, 16:44:27 10/13/10 Wed
- What is this the Arkansas bash board? (NT) -- No name, 17:49:57 10/13/10 Wed
  - because they got rid of 1 bad seed & she is crazy! This is all her, no one else. She has no life & her dd can't even compete. (NT) -- Her husband left her and she is schizophrenic on top of all that!, 21:39:39 10/13/10 Wed
- Erica Reynolds is a fat ass jealous bitch!!! -- No name, 15:18:02 10/14/10 Thu
  - The only B*%#h -- No name, 15:45:55 10/14/10 Thu
- The Poster -- No name, 15:20:21 10/14/10 Thu
- she does not look nearly as fat as the other pm's in the ballroom (NT) -- No name, 08:06:40 10/15/10 Fri
  - Erica Reynolds, quit posting to yourself!!! You sound like a idiot!!! (NT) -- Tkos now know who is the basher!!! How said for Bella that it is you!!!, 12:07:12 10/15/10 Fri
    - Idiot -- No name, 13:47:20 10/15/10 Fri
NATIONAL PAGEANT CHRISTMAS WEAR ~CUSTOM MADE~ 0/8 CUSTOM ORDER SIZE 0/8! YOU PICK SIZE & STYLE XMAS WEAR! -- No name, 08:39:16 10/15/10 Fri [3]
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- Absolutely adorable christmas clothes! (NT) -- No name, 10:37:46 10/15/10 Fri
- Thank you VERY Much!!! (NT) -- Angie (BCB), 10:49:26 10/15/10 Fri
Judges please read this post. -- No name, 20:16:09 10/14/10 Thu [2]
When you are judging please remember that not all children are white. No bashing here, just keep in mind when judging a child that their tan may just be their natural color. My daughter does not tan in the summer months because her father is hispanic and she has his coloring. Just food for thought for the judges. Nothing negative intended just a reminder that some children may be naturally dark. :)

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- have you considered possibly giving your dd a light tan?? Maybe her natural coloring is a little splotchy (NT) -- I have seen dark skinned girls get tanned all the time, 20:35:49 10/14/10 Thu
Christmas Casualwear/OOC -- No name, 13:12:36 10/14/10 Thu [2]
Does anyone have a Xmas Casualwear/ooc sized 6-7 for sale? please send pics to pageantmom228@yahoo.com

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- deedeeleblanc@aol.com has a great one for sale (NT) -- No name, 13:37:10 10/14/10 Thu
NATIONAL PAGEANT CASUAL WEAR OOAK! FULL SET 3/5 NR! SO SWEET! BRIGHT POLKA DOTS & COLORS! SUPER FULL SKIRT! -- No name, 11:18:46 10/01/10 Fri [7]
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- beautiful! (NT) -- No name, 11:38:00 10/01/10 Fri
- ONE OF THE PRETTIEST CASUAL WEARS I HAVE SEEN! LOVE COLOR COMBO! (NT) -- No name, 12:00:04 10/01/10 Fri
- Love the skirt (NT) -- No name, 13:52:37 10/01/10 Fri
- Do you have larger sizes in the white boots? Like maybe 10 or 11? (NT) -- No name, 14:25:32 10/01/10 Fri
  - ssa (NT) -- No name, 02:56:48 10/14/10 Thu
- Hi..No I am so sorry! I only have the one size 9's in the white boots, but you can buy other sizes on ebay! Thanks! (NT) -- Angie (BCB), 14:44:49 10/01/10 Fri
50 -- No name, 13:50:58 09/23/10 Thu [2]
Troll - In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response[1] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[2] In addition to the offending poster, the noun troll can also refer to the provocative message itself, as in "that was an excellent troll you posted". While the term troll and its associated action trolling are primarily associated with Internet discourse, media attention in recent years has made such labels highly subjective, with trolling being used to describe intentionally provocative actions outside of an online context. For example, recent media accounts have used the term troll to describe "a person who defaces internet tribute sites with the aim of causing grief to families."[3][4] From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search "Do not feed the trolls" and its abbreviation "DNFTT" redirect here. For the Wikimedia essay, see "What is a troll?".
Process - As described by Robert Bond in The International Review of Law, Computers & Technology, trolls usually exhibit a typical pattern of behavior:
In The Art of Trolling, published on the web, it is suggested that in Usenet usage, a "troll" is not a grumpy monster that lives beneath a bridge accosting passers by, but rather a provocative posting to a news group intended to produce a large volume of frivolous responses. The content of a "troll" posting generally falls into several areas. It may consist of an apparently foolish contradiction of common knowledge, a deliberately offensive insult to the readers of the news group or a broad request for trivial follow-up postings.[5]
Etymology - Artist's conception of trolling for tuna. The contemporary use of the term is alleged to have first appeared on the Internet in the late 1980s,[6] but the earliest known example is from 1992.[7] It is thought to be a truncation of the phrase trolling for suckers. That phrase is itself derived from the fishing technique of slowly dragging a lure or baited hook from a moving boat, waiting for fish to strike, a technique known as trolling.[8] The word also evokes the trolls portrayed in Scandinavian folklore and children's tales, as they are often creatures bent on mischief and wickedness. The verb troll originates from Old French troller, a hunting term. The noun troll, however, comes from the Old Norse word for a mythological monster.[9]
Early history - The most likely derivation of the word troll can be found in the phrase "trolling for newbies", popularized in the early 1990s in the Usenet group, alt.folklore.urban (AFU).[10][11] Commonly, what is meant is a relatively gentle inside joke by veteran users, presenting questions or topics that had been so overdone that only a new user would respond to them earnestly. For example, a veteran of the group might make a post on the common misconception that glass flows over time. Long-time readers would both recognize the poster's name and know that the topic had been discussed a lot, but new subscribers to the group would not realize, and would thus respond. These types of trolls served as a practice to identify group insiders. This definition of trolling, considerably narrower than the modern understanding of the term, was considered a positive contribution.[10][12] One of the most notorious AFU trollers, Snopes,[10] went on to create his eponymous urban folklore website. By the late 1990s, alt.folklore.urban had such heavy traffic and participation that trolling of this sort was frowned upon. Others expanded the term to include the practice of playing a seriously misinformed or deluded user, even in newsgroups where one was not a regular; these were often attempts at humor rather than provocation. In such contexts, the noun troll usually referred to an act of trolling, rather than to the author.
In other languages - In Japanese, arashi, means "laying waste" and can also be used to refer to simple spamming.
In Korean, nak-si, means "fishing", and is used to refer to Internet trolling attempts, as well as purposefully misleading post titles. A person who recognizes the troll after having responded (or, in case of a post title nak-si, having read the actual post) would often refer to himself as a caught fish.[citation needed]
In Thai, the term "krean" has been adopted to address Internet trolls. The term literally refers to a closely cropped hairstyle worn by most school boys in Thailand, thus equating Internet trolls to school boys. The term "tob krean" or slapping a cropped head, refers to the act of posting intellectual replies to refute and cause the messages of Internet trolls to be unintelligent.
Published research on trolling - In academic literature, the practice was first documented by Judith Donath (1999). Donath's paper outlines the ambiguity of identity in a disembodied "virtual community" such as Usenet:
�In the physical world there is an inherent unity to the self, for the body provides a compelling and convenient definition of identity. The norm is: one body, one identity ... The virtual world is different. It is composed of information rather than matter.[13] �
Donath provides a concise overview of identity deception games which trade on the confusion between physical and epistemic community: � Trolling is a game about identity deception, albeit one that is played without the consent of most of the players. The troll attempts to pass as a legitimate participant, sharing the group's common interests and concerns; the newsgroups members, if they are cognizant of trolls and other identity deceptions, attempt to both distinguish real from trolling postings, and upon judging a poster a troll, make the offending poster leave the group. Their success at the former depends on how well they � and the troll � understand identity cues; their success at the latter depends on whether the troll's enjoyment is sufficiently diminished or outweighed by the costs imposed by the group.
Trolls can be costly in several ways. A troll can disrupt the discussion on a newsgroup, disseminate bad advice, and damage the feeling of trust in the newsgroup community. Furthermore, in a group that has become sensitized to trolling � where the rate of deception is high � many honestly na�ve questions may be quickly rejected as trollings. This can be quite off-putting to the new user who upon venturing a first posting is immediately bombarded with angry accusations. Even if the accusation is unfounded, being branded a troll is quite damaging to one's online reputation.[13]�
Susan Herring et al. in "Searching for Safety Online: Managing 'Trolling' in a Feminist Forum" point out the difficulty inherent in monitoring trolling and maintaining freedom of speech in online communities: "harassment often arises in spaces known for their freedom, lack of censure, and experimental nature".[14] The broadly accepted ethic of free speech may lead to tolerance of trolling behavior, further complicating the members' efforts to maintain an open yet supportive discussion area, especially for sensitive topics such as race, gender, sexuality, etc.[14]
Concern troll - A concern troll is a false flag pseudonym created by a user whose actual point of view is opposed to the one that the user claims to hold. The concern troll posts in web forums devoted to its declared point of view and attempts to sway the group's actions or opinions while claiming to share their goals, but with professed "concerns". The goal is to sow fear, uncertainty and doubt within the group.[15]
An example of this occurred in 2006 when Tad Furtado, a top staffer for then-Congressman Charles Bass (R-NH), was caught posing as a "concerned" supporter of Bass's opponent, Democrat Paul Hodes, on several liberal New Hampshire blogs, using the pseudonyms "IndieNH" or "IndyNH". "IndyNH" expressed concern that Democrats might just be wasting their time or money on Hodes, because Bass was unbeatable.[16][17] Although the term "concern troll" originated in discussions of online behavior, it now sees increasing use to describe similar behaviors that take place offline.
For example, James Wolcott of Vanity Fair accused a conservative New York Daily News columnist of "concern troll" behavior in his efforts to downplay the Mark Foley scandal. Wolcott links what he calls concern trolls to Saul Alinsky's "Do-Nothings", giving a long quote from Alinsky on the Do-Nothings' method and effects:
� These Do-Nothings profess a commitment to social change for ideals of justice, equality, and opportunity, and then abstain from and discourage all effective action for change. They are known by their brand, 'I agree with your ends but not your means.'[18] �
In a more recent example, The Hill published an op-ed piece by Markos Moulitsas of the liberal blog Daily Kos titled "Dems: Ignore 'Concern Trolls' ". Again, the concern trolls in question were not Internet participants; they were Republicans offering public advice and warnings to the Democrats. The author defines "concern trolling" as "offering a poisoned apple in the form of advice to political opponents that, if taken, would harm the recipient".[19]
Troll sites - While some webmasters and forum administrators consider trolls to be a scourge on their sites, some websites welcome them. For example, a New York Times article discussed troll activity at 4chan and at Encyclopedia Dramatica, which it described as "an online compendium of troll humor and troll lore".[6] This site and others are often used as a base to troll against sites that they can not normally post on. These trolls feed off the reactions of their victims because "their agenda is to take delight in causing trouble".[20]
Media coverage and controversy - Mainstream media outlets have focused their attention on the willingness of some Internet trolls to go to extreme lengths in their attempts at eliciting reactions.
On March 31, 2010, the Today Show ran a segment detailing the deaths of three separate adolescent girls and trolls� subsequent reactions to their deaths. Shortly after the suicide of high school student Alexis Pilkington, anonymous posters began trolling for reactions across various message boards, referring to Pilkington as a �suicidal slut,� and posting graphic images on her Facebook memorial page. The segment also included an expose of a 2006 accident, in which an eighteen-year old fatally crashed her father�s car into a highway pylon; trolls emailed her grieving family the leaked pictures of her mutilated corpse.[4]
In February 2010, the Australian government became involved after trolls defaced the Facebook tribute pages of murdered children Trinity Bates and Elliot Fletcher. Australian communications minister Stephen Conroy decried the attacks, committed mainly by 4chan users, as evidence of the need for greater Internet regulation, stating, �This argument that the Internet is some mystical creation that no laws should apply to, that is a recipe for anarchy and the wild west.�[21] Conroy has been noted in the past for his advocacy of Internet censorship. In the wake of these events, Facebook responded by strongly urging administrators to be aware of ways to ban users and remove inappropriate content from Facebook pages.[22]
Usage - Application of the term troll is highly subjective. Some readers may characterize a post as trolling, while others may regard the same post as a legitimate contribution to the discussion, even if controversial. The term is often used as an ad hominem strategy to discredit an opposing position by attacking its proponent.
Often, calling someone a troll makes assumptions about a writer's motives. Regardless of the circumstances, controversial posts may attract a particularly strong response from those unfamiliar with the robust dialogue found in some online, rather than physical, communities. Experienced participants in online forums know that the most effective way to discourage a troll is usually to ignore him or her, because responding tends to encourage trolls to continue disruptive posts � hence the often-seen warning: "Please do not feed the trolls".
Examples of trolling - So-called Gold Membership trolling originated in 2007 on several 4chan boards, with some users posting fake images claiming to offer upgraded 4chan account privileges; without a �Gold� account, one could not view certain content. This turned out to be a hoax designed to fool board members, especially newcomers. It was quickly copied and became an Internet meme. In some cases, this type of troll has been used as a scam, most notably on Facebook, where fake Facebook Gold Account upgrade ads have proliferated in order to link users to dubious websites and other content.[23]
As reported on April 8, 1999, investors became victims of trolling via an online financial discussion regarding PairGain, a telephone equipment company based in California. Trolls operating in the stock�s Yahoo Finance chat room posted a fabricated Bloomberg News article stating that an Israeli telecom company could potentially acquire PairGain. As a result, PairGain�s stock jumped by 31%. However, the stock promptly crashed after the reports were identified as false.[5]
The case of Zeran v. America Online, Inc. resulted primarily from trolling. Six days after the Oklahoma City bombing, anonymous users posted advertisements for shirts celebrating the bombing on AOL message boards, claiming that the shirts could be obtained by contacting Mr. Kenneth Zeran. The posts listed Zeran�s address and home phone number. Zeran was subsequently harassed.[5]
References - "Definition of: trolling". PCMAG.COM. Ziff Davis Publishing Holdings Inc. 2009. www.pcmag.com/encyclopedia_term/0,2542,t=trolling&i=53181,00.asp#. Retrieved 2009-03-24. Indiana University: University Information Technology Services (2008-05-05). "What is a troll?". Indiana University Knowledge Base. The Trustees of Indiana University. //kb.iu.edu/data/afhc.html. Retrieved 2009-03-24. "Police charge alleged creator of Facebook hate page aimed at murder victim". The Courier Mail (Australia). 2010-07-22. www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/police-charge-alleged-creator-of-facebook-hate-page-aimed-at-murder-victim/story-e6freoof-1225895789100. Retrieved 2010-07-27. "Trolling: The Today Show Explores the Dark Side of the Internet", 31 March 2010. Retrieved on 4 April 2010. Bond, Robert (1999). "Links, Frames, Meta-tags and Trolls". International Review of Law, Computers & Technology 13: pp. 317�323. Schwartz, Mattathias (2008-08-03). "The Trolls Among Us". The New York Times: pp. MM24. <a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/magazine/03trolls-t.html.">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/magazine/03trolls-t.html.</a> Retrieved 2009-03-24. troll, n.1. Oxford University Press. 2006. //dictionary.oed.com/cgi/entry/50258589?query_type=word&queryword=Troll&first=1&max_to_show=10&sort_type=alpha&result_place=1&search_id=IQ9r-MltHmU-3840&hilite=50258589. Retrieved 1 March 2010. OED gives an example from alt.folklore.urban (Usenet newsgroup), 14 Dec 1992 "troll". Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary. 2010. <a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/troll.">http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/troll.</a> Retrieved 7 January 2010. Harper, Douglas. "troll". Online Etymology Dictionary. <a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=troll.">http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=troll.</a> Retrieved 2009-03-24. Tepper, Michele (1997). "Usenet Communities and the Cultural Politics of Information". in Porter, David. Internet culture. New York, New York, United States: Routledge Inc. p. 48. ISBN 9780415916837. //books.google.com/?id=5d2stzIbkqMC. Retrieved 2009-03-24. "... the two most notorious trollers in AFU, Ted Frank and Snopes, are also two of the most consistent posters of serious research." Miller, Mark S. (1990-02-08). "FOADTAD". alt.flame. (Web link). Retrieved on 2009-06-02. "Just go die in your sleep you mindless flatulent troll." Zotti, Ed; et al. (2000-04-14). "What is a troll?". The Straight Dope. straightdope.com/columns/read/1764/what-is-a-troll. Retrieved 2009-03-24. "To be fair, not all trolls are slimeballs. On some message boards, veteran posters with a mischievous bent occasionally go 'newbie trolling.'"
^ a b Donath, Judith S. (1999). "Identity and deception in the virtual community". in Smith, Marc A.; Kollock, Peter. Communities in Cyberspace (illustrated, reprint ed.). Routledge. pp. 29�59. ISBN 9780415191401. //books.google.com/?id=210IkjyN8gEC. Retrieved 2009-03-24. Herring, Susan; Job-Sluder, Kirk; Scheckler, Rebecca; Barab, Sasha (2002). "Searching for Safety Online: Managing "Trolling" in a Feminist Forum". Center for Social Informatics � Indiana University. <a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://rkcsi.indiana.edu/archive/CSI/WP/WP02-03B.html.">http://rkcsi.indiana.edu/archive/CSI/WP/WP02-03B.html.</a> Retrieved 2009-03-29. Cox, Ana Marie (2006-12-16). "Making Mischief on the Web". time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1570701,00.html. Retrieved 2009-03-24. Saunders, Anne (2006-09-27). "Bass aide resigns for fake website postings". Associated Press. <a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060927/REPOSITORY/609270353.">http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060927/REPOSITORY/609270353.</a> Retrieved 2010-02-05.
^ "Bass Aide Resigns After Posing As Democrat On Blogs". 2006-09-26. //www.wmur.com/politics/9936715/detail.html. Retrieved 2010-02-05. Wolcott, James (2006-10-06). "Political Pieties from a Post-Natal Drip". James Wolcott's Blog � Vanity Fair. Cond� Nast. www.vanityfair.com/online/wolcott/2006/10/political_pieti.html. Retrieved 2009-03-25. Moulitsas, Markos (2008-01-09). "Dems: Ignore 'concern trolls'". TheHill.com. Capitol Hill Publishing Corp. thehill.com/opinion/columnists/markos-moulitas/24407-dems-ignore-concern-trolls. Retrieved 2009-03-25.
"How to be a Great Internet Troll". Fox Sports. <a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://community.foxsports.com/dwilliams/blog/2007/10/25/how_to_be_a_great_internet_troll.">http://community.foxsports.com/dwilliams/blog/2007/10/25/how_to_be_a_great_internet_troll.</a> Retrieved 2009-12-13.
^ "Internet without laws a 'recipe for anarchy', 1 April 2010. Retrieved 5 April 2010. "Facebook takes (small) step against tribute page trolls", TG Daily, 30 March 2010. Retrieved 5 April 2010. "All that glisters is not (Facebook) gold", Counter Measures: Security, Privacy & Trust (A TrendMicro Blog). Retrieved 6 April 2010.

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She says "sure baby, do you have a condom?", and he replies "no but do you think the front desk might have some?"

"Sure they will!", she says.

He heads down to the front desk and asks the clerk if he has any condoms and the clerk hands him a box of different sized condoms and says, "would you like me to put that on your bill?", to which Donald replies, "Thit NO! I would Thufficate!"

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Troll - In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response[1] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[2] In addition to the offending poster, the noun troll can also refer to the provocative message itself, as in "that was an excellent troll you posted". While the term troll and its associated action trolling are primarily associated with Internet discourse, media attention in recent years has made such labels highly subjective, with trolling being used to describe intentionally provocative actions outside of an online context. For example, recent media accounts have used the term troll to describe "a person who defaces internet tribute sites with the aim of causing grief to families."[3][4] From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search "Do not feed the trolls" and its abbreviation "DNFTT" redirect here. For the Wikimedia essay, see "What is a troll?".
Process - As described by Robert Bond in The International Review of Law, Computers & Technology, trolls usually exhibit a typical pattern of behavior:
In The Art of Trolling, published on the web, it is suggested that in Usenet usage, a "troll" is not a grumpy monster that lives beneath a bridge accosting passers by, but rather a provocative posting to a news group intended to produce a large volume of frivolous responses. The content of a "troll" posting generally falls into several areas. It may consist of an apparently foolish contradiction of common knowledge, a deliberately offensive insult to the readers of the news group or a broad request for trivial follow-up postings.[5]
Etymology - Artist's conception of trolling for tuna. The contemporary use of the term is alleged to have first appeared on the Internet in the late 1980s,[6] but the earliest known example is from 1992.[7] It is thought to be a truncation of the phrase trolling for suckers. That phrase is itself derived from the fishing technique of slowly dragging a lure or baited hook from a moving boat, waiting for fish to strike, a technique known as trolling.[8] The word also evokes the trolls portrayed in Scandinavian folklore and children's tales, as they are often creatures bent on mischief and wickedness. The verb troll originates from Old French troller, a hunting term. The noun troll, however, comes from the Old Norse word for a mythological monster.[9]
Early history - The most likely derivation of the word troll can be found in the phrase "trolling for newbies", popularized in the early 1990s in the Usenet group, alt.folklore.urban (AFU).[10][11] Commonly, what is meant is a relatively gentle inside joke by veteran users, presenting questions or topics that had been so overdone that only a new user would respond to them earnestly. For example, a veteran of the group might make a post on the common misconception that glass flows over time. Long-time readers would both recognize the poster's name and know that the topic had been discussed a lot, but new subscribers to the group would not realize, and would thus respond. These types of trolls served as a practice to identify group insiders. This definition of trolling, considerably narrower than the modern understanding of the term, was considered a positive contribution.[10][12] One of the most notorious AFU trollers, Snopes,[10] went on to create his eponymous urban folklore website. By the late 1990s, alt.folklore.urban had such heavy traffic and participation that trolling of this sort was frowned upon. Others expanded the term to include the practice of playing a seriously misinformed or deluded user, even in newsgroups where one was not a regular; these were often attempts at humor rather than provocation. In such contexts, the noun troll usually referred to an act of trolling, rather than to the author.
In other languages - In Japanese, arashi, means "laying waste" and can also be used to refer to simple spamming.
In Korean, nak-si, means "fishing", and is used to refer to Internet trolling attempts, as well as purposefully misleading post titles. A person who recognizes the troll after having responded (or, in case of a post title nak-si, having read the actual post) would often refer to himself as a caught fish.[citation needed]
In Thai, the term "krean" has been adopted to address Internet trolls. The term literally refers to a closely cropped hairstyle worn by most school boys in Thailand, thus equating Internet trolls to school boys. The term "tob krean" or slapping a cropped head, refers to the act of posting intellectual replies to refute and cause the messages of Internet trolls to be unintelligent.
Published research on trolling - In academic literature, the practice was first documented by Judith Donath (1999). Donath's paper outlines the ambiguity of identity in a disembodied "virtual community" such as Usenet:
�In the physical world there is an inherent unity to the self, for the body provides a compelling and convenient definition of identity. The norm is: one body, one identity ... The virtual world is different. It is composed of information rather than matter.[13] �
Donath provides a concise overview of identity deception games which trade on the confusion between physical and epistemic community: � Trolling is a game about identity deception, albeit one that is played without the consent of most of the players. The troll attempts to pass as a legitimate participant, sharing the group's common interests and concerns; the newsgroups members, if they are cognizant of trolls and other identity deceptions, attempt to both distinguish real from trolling postings, and upon judging a poster a troll, make the offending poster leave the group. Their success at the former depends on how well they � and the troll � understand identity cues; their success at the latter depends on whether the troll's enjoyment is sufficiently diminished or outweighed by the costs imposed by the group.
Trolls can be costly in several ways. A troll can disrupt the discussion on a newsgroup, disseminate bad advice, and damage the feeling of trust in the newsgroup community. Furthermore, in a group that has become sensitized to trolling � where the rate of deception is high � many honestly na�ve questions may be quickly rejected as trollings. This can be quite off-putting to the new user who upon venturing a first posting is immediately bombarded with angry accusations. Even if the accusation is unfounded, being branded a troll is quite damaging to one's online reputation.[13]�
Susan Herring et al. in "Searching for Safety Online: Managing 'Trolling' in a Feminist Forum" point out the difficulty inherent in monitoring trolling and maintaining freedom of speech in online communities: "harassment often arises in spaces known for their freedom, lack of censure, and experimental nature".[14] The broadly accepted ethic of free speech may lead to tolerance of trolling behavior, further complicating the members' efforts to maintain an open yet supportive discussion area, especially for sensitive topics such as race, gender, sexuality, etc.[14]
Concern troll - A concern troll is a false flag pseudonym created by a user whose actual point of view is opposed to the one that the user claims to hold. The concern troll posts in web forums devoted to its declared point of view and attempts to sway the group's actions or opinions while claiming to share their goals, but with professed "concerns". The goal is to sow fear, uncertainty and doubt within the group.[15]
An example of this occurred in 2006 when Tad Furtado, a top staffer for then-Congressman Charles Bass (R-NH), was caught posing as a "concerned" supporter of Bass's opponent, Democrat Paul Hodes, on several liberal New Hampshire blogs, using the pseudonyms "IndieNH" or "IndyNH". "IndyNH" expressed concern that Democrats might just be wasting their time or money on Hodes, because Bass was unbeatable.[16][17] Although the term "concern troll" originated in discussions of online behavior, it now sees increasing use to describe similar behaviors that take place offline.
For example, James Wolcott of Vanity Fair accused a conservative New York Daily News columnist of "concern troll" behavior in his efforts to downplay the Mark Foley scandal. Wolcott links what he calls concern trolls to Saul Alinsky's "Do-Nothings", giving a long quote from Alinsky on the Do-Nothings' method and effects:
� These Do-Nothings profess a commitment to social change for ideals of justice, equality, and opportunity, and then abstain from and discourage all effective action for change. They are known by their brand, 'I agree with your ends but not your means.'[18] �
In a more recent example, The Hill published an op-ed piece by Markos Moulitsas of the liberal blog Daily Kos titled "Dems: Ignore 'Concern Trolls' ". Again, the concern trolls in question were not Internet participants; they were Republicans offering public advice and warnings to the Democrats. The author defines "concern trolling" as "offering a poisoned apple in the form of advice to political opponents that, if taken, would harm the recipient".[19]
Troll sites - While some webmasters and forum administrators consider trolls to be a scourge on their sites, some websites welcome them. For example, a New York Times article discussed troll activity at 4chan and at Encyclopedia Dramatica, which it described as "an online compendium of troll humor and troll lore".[6] This site and others are often used as a base to troll against sites that they can not normally post on. These trolls feed off the reactions of their victims because "their agenda is to take delight in causing trouble".[20]
Media coverage and controversy - Mainstream media outlets have focused their attention on the willingness of some Internet trolls to go to extreme lengths in their attempts at eliciting reactions.
On March 31, 2010, the Today Show ran a segment detailing the deaths of three separate adolescent girls and trolls� subsequent reactions to their deaths. Shortly after the suicide of high school student Alexis Pilkington, anonymous posters began trolling for reactions across various message boards, referring to Pilkington as a �suicidal slut,� and posting graphic images on her Facebook memorial page. The segment also included an expose of a 2006 accident, in which an eighteen-year old fatally crashed her father�s car into a highway pylon; trolls emailed her grieving family the leaked pictures of her mutilated corpse.[4]
In February 2010, the Australian government became involved after trolls defaced the Facebook tribute pages of murdered children Trinity Bates and Elliot Fletcher. Australian communications minister Stephen Conroy decried the attacks, committed mainly by 4chan users, as evidence of the need for greater Internet regulation, stating, �This argument that the Internet is some mystical creation that no laws should apply to, that is a recipe for anarchy and the wild west.�[21] Conroy has been noted in the past for his advocacy of Internet censorship. In the wake of these events, Facebook responded by strongly urging administrators to be aware of ways to ban users and remove inappropriate content from Facebook pages.[22]
Usage - Application of the term troll is highly subjective. Some readers may characterize a post as trolling, while others may regard the same post as a legitimate contribution to the discussion, even if controversial. The term is often used as an ad hominem strategy to discredit an opposing position by attacking its proponent.
Often, calling someone a troll makes assumptions about a writer's motives. Regardless of the circumstances, controversial posts may attract a particularly strong response from those unfamiliar with the robust dialogue found in some online, rather than physical, communities. Experienced participants in online forums know that the most effective way to discourage a troll is usually to ignore him or her, because responding tends to encourage trolls to continue disruptive posts � hence the often-seen warning: "Please do not feed the trolls".
Examples of trolling - So-called Gold Membership trolling originated in 2007 on several 4chan boards, with some users posting fake images claiming to offer upgraded 4chan account privileges; without a �Gold� account, one could not view certain content. This turned out to be a hoax designed to fool board members, especially newcomers. It was quickly copied and became an Internet meme. In some cases, this type of troll has been used as a scam, most notably on Facebook, where fake Facebook Gold Account upgrade ads have proliferated in order to link users to dubious websites and other content.[23]
As reported on April 8, 1999, investors became victims of trolling via an online financial discussion regarding PairGain, a telephone equipment company based in California. Trolls operating in the stock�s Yahoo Finance chat room posted a fabricated Bloomberg News article stating that an Israeli telecom company could potentially acquire PairGain. As a result, PairGain�s stock jumped by 31%. However, the stock promptly crashed after the reports were identified as false.[5]
The case of Zeran v. America Online, Inc. resulted primarily from trolling. Six days after the Oklahoma City bombing, anonymous users posted advertisements for shirts celebrating the bombing on AOL message boards, claiming that the shirts could be obtained by contacting Mr. Kenneth Zeran. The posts listed Zeran�s address and home phone number. Zeran was subsequently harassed.[5]
References - "Definition of: trolling". PCMAG.COM. Ziff Davis Publishing Holdings Inc. 2009. www.pcmag.com/encyclopedia_term/0,2542,t=trolling&i=53181,00.asp#. Retrieved 2009-03-24. Indiana University: University Information Technology Services (2008-05-05). "What is a troll?". Indiana University Knowledge Base. The Trustees of Indiana University. //kb.iu.edu/data/afhc.html. Retrieved 2009-03-24. "Police charge alleged creator of Facebook hate page aimed at murder victim". The Courier Mail (Australia). 2010-07-22. www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/police-charge-alleged-creator-of-facebook-hate-page-aimed-at-murder-victim/story-e6freoof-1225895789100. Retrieved 2010-07-27. "Trolling: The Today Show Explores the Dark Side of the Internet", 31 March 2010. Retrieved on 4 April 2010. Bond, Robert (1999). "Links, Frames, Meta-tags and Trolls". International Review of Law, Computers & Technology 13: pp. 317�323. Schwartz, Mattathias (2008-08-03). "The Trolls Among Us". The New York Times: pp. MM24. <a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/magazine/03trolls-t.html.">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/magazine/03trolls-t.html.</a> Retrieved 2009-03-24. troll, n.1. Oxford University Press. 2006. //dictionary.oed.com/cgi/entry/50258589?query_type=word&queryword=Troll&first=1&max_to_show=10&sort_type=alpha&result_place=1&search_id=IQ9r-MltHmU-3840&hilite=50258589. Retrieved 1 March 2010. OED gives an example from alt.folklore.urban (Usenet newsgroup), 14 Dec 1992 "troll". Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary. 2010. <a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/troll.">http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/troll.</a> Retrieved 7 January 2010. Harper, Douglas. "troll". Online Etymology Dictionary. <a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=troll.">http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=troll.</a> Retrieved 2009-03-24. Tepper, Michele (1997). "Usenet Communities and the Cultural Politics of Information". in Porter, David. Internet culture. New York, New York, United States: Routledge Inc. p. 48. ISBN 9780415916837. //books.google.com/?id=5d2stzIbkqMC. Retrieved 2009-03-24. "... the two most notorious trollers in AFU, Ted Frank and Snopes, are also two of the most consistent posters of serious research." Miller, Mark S. (1990-02-08). "FOADTAD". alt.flame. (Web link). Retrieved on 2009-06-02. "Just go die in your sleep you mindless flatulent troll." Zotti, Ed; et al. (2000-04-14). "What is a troll?". The Straight Dope. straightdope.com/columns/read/1764/what-is-a-troll. Retrieved 2009-03-24. "To be fair, not all trolls are slimeballs. On some message boards, veteran posters with a mischievous bent occasionally go 'newbie trolling.'"
^ a b Donath, Judith S. (1999). "Identity and deception in the virtual community". in Smith, Marc A.; Kollock, Peter. Communities in Cyberspace (illustrated, reprint ed.). Routledge. pp. 29�59. ISBN 9780415191401. //books.google.com/?id=210IkjyN8gEC. Retrieved 2009-03-24. Herring, Susan; Job-Sluder, Kirk; Scheckler, Rebecca; Barab, Sasha (2002). "Searching for Safety Online: Managing "Trolling" in a Feminist Forum". Center for Social Informatics � Indiana University. <a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://rkcsi.indiana.edu/archive/CSI/WP/WP02-03B.html.">http://rkcsi.indiana.edu/archive/CSI/WP/WP02-03B.html.</a> Retrieved 2009-03-29. Cox, Ana Marie (2006-12-16). "Making Mischief on the Web". time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1570701,00.html. Retrieved 2009-03-24. Saunders, Anne (2006-09-27). "Bass aide resigns for fake website postings". Associated Press. <a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060927/REPOSITORY/609270353.">http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060927/REPOSITORY/609270353.</a> Retrieved 2010-02-05.
^ "Bass Aide Resigns After Posing As Democrat On Blogs". 2006-09-26. //www.wmur.com/politics/9936715/detail.html. Retrieved 2010-02-05. Wolcott, James (2006-10-06). "Political Pieties from a Post-Natal Drip". James Wolcott's Blog � Vanity Fair. Cond� Nast. www.vanityfair.com/online/wolcott/2006/10/political_pieti.html. Retrieved 2009-03-25. Moulitsas, Markos (2008-01-09). "Dems: Ignore 'concern trolls'". TheHill.com. Capitol Hill Publishing Corp. thehill.com/opinion/columnists/markos-moulitas/24407-dems-ignore-concern-trolls. Retrieved 2009-03-25.
"How to be a Great Internet Troll". Fox Sports. <a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://community.foxsports.com/dwilliams/blog/2007/10/25/how_to_be_a_great_internet_troll.">http://community.foxsports.com/dwilliams/blog/2007/10/25/how_to_be_a_great_internet_troll.</a> Retrieved 2009-12-13.
^ "Internet without laws a 'recipe for anarchy', 1 April 2010. Retrieved 5 April 2010. "Facebook takes (small) step against tribute page trolls", TG Daily, 30 March 2010. Retrieved 5 April 2010. "All that glisters is not (Facebook) gold", Counter Measures: Security, Privacy & Trust (A TrendMicro Blog). Retrieved 6 April 2010.

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IR BEAT TODAY AT NES BY NEWBIE -- No name, 01:11:49 08/09/10 Mon [39]
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- Isabel raise (NT) -- No name, 01:11:56 08/09/10 Mon
- i seen that, she cant win them all!! and how does Amarylls competes and coaches?!beautiful girl but its either 1 or the other IMO (NT) -- No name, 04:13:32 08/09/10 Mon
  - Easy, because she is allowed to compete! No where does it say"coaches can't compete" (NT) -- No name, 20:42:44 08/14/10 Sat
- IR SEEMS TO BE WINNING LESS AND LESS I THINK IT IS KARMA (NT) -- SHE USES JUDGES TO JUDGE HER PGT THAT JUDGE IR LATER, 05:17:51 08/09/10 Mon
  - BET IR's MOMMA WAS PISSED AGAIN!!!! (NT) -- No name, 14:40:20 08/09/10 Mon
- Look at the winners list, it's all the usual N.E. girls who ; -- No name, 07:17:27 08/09/10 Mon
- actually the ulttimate is not a newbie, but a NE regular (NT) -- No name, 10:14:36 08/09/10 Mon
  - ultimates mom directs for NES director (NT) -- No name, 10:15:26 08/09/10 Mon
- Megahan is not a newbie, she's been doing pageants for 7-8 years. Mostly just up in NE and usually does pretty well. (NT) -- No name, 10:21:03 08/09/10 Mon
  - NE girls win because 99% of the contestants are from NE! If the pageant was held in Michigan 99% of the winners would be from Michigan! (NT) -- No name, 10:23:19 08/09/10 Mon
    - The ultimates mom is a noes director DUH (NT) -- No name, 11:28:42 08/09/10 Mon
      - MF is still a pretty girl that deserved her win. (NT) -- No name, 11:32:12 08/09/10 Mon
- MF-is that RF dd? (NT) -- No name, 11:43:03 08/09/10 Mon
- MF's OOC was incredible. I'm sure the scores were very close, but they both burned the runway up. I'm happy for MF, she deserved this title! (NT) -- The judges got this right!!, 14:06:41 08/09/10 Mon
  - The only thing her OOC was missing was a pole/ very inappropriate! (NT) -- No name, 21:56:10 08/11/10 Wed
    - ooc was very good and talent was great! not inappropriate at all! jealous much? (NT) -- No name, 22:08:22 08/11/10 Wed
    - Are talking about her WW? Sorry but that was far from innapropriate!!! Leave the kid alone. (NT) -- No name, 08:16:06 08/12/10 Thu
- Are you talking about MF who's mom just beat up the other mom at AFF? (NT) -- No name, 15:40:47 08/09/10 Mon
  - NO - not the same MF (NT) -- No name, 20:01:59 08/09/10 Mon
- NO. PS -note Talent was an optional score could be used toward supreme title. (NT) -- Ultimate is amazing in talent C ONGRATS to both., 16:30:17 08/09/10 Mon
- Talentscore can replace a modeling event. (NT) -- No name, 16:31:15 08/09/10 Mon
- MF MOM is a DIRECTOR FOR NES and so FAR up TR ASS, thats WHY MF beat IR.....Kathy, you were played at your own game! (NT) -- No name, 23:52:14 08/09/10 Mon
- MF DESERVED the ultimate; REGARDLESS of Mom's help with the NES state pageant. The judges don't know that and scored her AWESOME modeling & talent! (NT) -- IR was good too, it could've been the difference of .10th of a point., 01:53:50 08/10/10 Tue
- All the NES judges know these girls, lol; they rotate and use; -- No name, 07:04:16 08/10/10 Tue
  - THE JUDGES SURE DO KNOW THESE GIRLS. THERE MOMS USE THE SAME JUDGES FOR THERE STATE PAGEANT. (NT) -- No name, 11:01:17 08/10/10 Tue
    - Tammy needs to stop letting her director's kids compete at NES. They don't win anywhere else. It is totally COI (NT) -- No name, 11:05:22 08/10/10 Tue
      - bull they win at every pageant they compete stop crying coi poor excuse as usual. kid was great no suprise she won (NT) -- to anyone in the ballroom guess you weren't there!, 22:10:38 08/11/10 Wed
        
        Where else do they compete???? No where else. They only compete at NES and win big. (NT) -- No name, 11:05:39 08/12/10 Thu
        shut up (NT) -- No name, 02:52:43 10/14/10 Thu
- What is the pageant name? Is there everal NES -Natural Elegant Simplity or is this different one? (NT) -- Tina, 11:38:28 08/10/10 Tue
- It happens - so what! (NT) -- No name, 00:30:31 08/15/10 Sun
- Ttt (NT) -- No name, 18:41:10 09/10/10 Fri
- IR is beautiful (NT) -- No name, 19:03:08 09/10/10 Fri
  - agree (NT) -- No name, 13:34:08 09/23/10 Thu
    - 9 (NT) -- No name, 00:23:04 10/04/10 Mon
- ir rules! (NT) -- No name, 21:39:18 09/24/10 Fri
- She only wins when her Mom buys the win or trades out! (NT) -- No name, 00:55:09 10/04/10 Mon
- IR has not been competing that long either! (NT) -- No name, 00:56:07 10/04/10 Mon
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- cmon pms it mario lopez!!!! oh boy oh boy oh boy (NT) -- No name, 18:42:41 10/13/10 Wed
- Why would you want to go to a pageant where they pick judges who don't know a thing about pageants? (NT) -- No name, 01:06:43 10/14/10 Thu
- hahahahahaha ah, tooo easy (NT) -- No name, 02:00:36 10/14/10 Thu
the one and only AP -- CW, 18:29:51 10/13/10 Wed [2]
AP good job baby girl. Another one for the trophy case. I am so proud of u. Just ignore all the stupid stuff around u and keep winning. Good job

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- No one is bashing AP. People are - improperly - bashing her parents, but they are not bashing her. (NT) -- No name, 20:36:30 10/13/10 Wed
I need the Diamond and Pearls Paper Work. Please help. Or link to the home page. Thank U -- No name, 20:26:19 10/12/10 Tue [16]
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- Personal opinion that director will never make that pageant what the D's did. Never. (NT) -- No name, 21:42:43 10/12/10 Tue
- Welp since she is not a their, I guess she will not make it what it was (NT) -- No name, 21:48:33 10/12/10 Tue
  - thief (NT) -- No name, 21:49:23 10/12/10 Tue
- speaking of the D's, did SD ever go to trial? (NT) -- No name, 00:25:43 10/13/10 Wed
- It's on the DDA website. (NT) -- No name, 02:12:10 10/13/10 Wed
  - there is no DDA website anymore (NT) -- No name, 06:50:34 10/13/10 Wed
- www.darlingdollsofamerica.com here ya go hth (NT) -- No name, 09:52:58 10/13/10 Wed
  - that link doesn't work. Do you have another one? (NT) -- No name, 10:32:11 10/13/10 Wed
    - You are right. Here is their email ddanational@gmail.com (NT) -- No name, 11:26:21 10/13/10 Wed
      - t u (NT) -- No name, 13:07:48 10/13/10 Wed
- got paperwork and payouts are bad most of the supreme titles only pay 200 bond and div nothing cost is high too what gives??? (NT) -- No name, 13:57:20 10/13/10 Wed
  - The payout is not great but the fees to enter are not as much as most. imo (NT) -- No name, 14:57:35 10/13/10 Wed
- if your kid has ever won $1000 in her life, youre screwed. She will be in the same level as (NT) -- No name, 15:04:37 10/13/10 Wed
  - Same level as who? (NT) -- No name, 17:56:09 10/13/10 Wed
- I would much rather do diamonds and pearls...half the fees of xd (NT) -- No name, 15:05:59 10/13/10 Wed
Somebody was a sore loser! Look at the album's name: http://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/album.php?aid=45499&id=100000210874384 -- No name, 12:46:24 10/08/10 Fri [10]
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- Omg and her clothes are sad "mommy" replicas of other's custom pageant clothing! (NT) -- No name, 00:14:11 10/12/10 Tue
- Lol! (NT) -- No name, 12:16:10 10/12/10 Tue
- Her clothes dont look sad, but they look too busy for those pretty faces.The title to the album is hilarious. (NT) -- Sounds like youre a horrible facebook "friend", 12:33:09 10/12/10 Tue
  - whats the title i cant pull it up lol (NT) -- No name, 15:26:44 10/12/10 Tue
  - Please,those clothes are beautiful.Cute kids,great clothes.But they don't look happy. (NT) -- No offense but from the pics not great stage presence., 16:14:06 10/12/10 Tue
- mom and dad raised HELL, because their dd's didn't pull a supreme title, they cried on stage most of the time and NEVER smiled, photos don't lie. LMAO (NT) -- No name, 22:56:33 10/12/10 Tue
  - She did copy something of our's, TRUTH! And it is a sad replica of our's! (NT) -- No name, 23:23:25 10/12/10 Tue
- clothes look fine to me (NT) -- No name, 13:58:32 10/13/10 Wed
  - at least the pink 50s wear and the green swimwear look good (NT) -- No name, 14:09:38 10/13/10 Wed
2/3T Christmas Casual Wear Dress Just listed. 99 Cents! No Reserve! -- No name, 11:17:16 09/30/10 Thu [13]

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- Good Lord. Lose the HIDEOUS huge corker ribbon things. And the skirt has no curl (NT) -- No name, 13:55:05 09/30/10 Thu
- 2/3T Santa Christmas Dress Just listed. 99 Cents! No Reserve! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250704688934 (NT) -- No name, 20:16:21 09/30/10 Thu
- OMG the weird arts and crafts loon is at it again. just stop with the bad arts and crafts dresses! (NT) -- No name, 22:53:39 09/30/10 Thu
  - Wow, I wonder who actually buys these things.. (NT) -- No name, 01:30:47 10/01/10 Fri
- love it! (NT) -- No name, 11:46:32 10/01/10 Fri
- WHY DO YOU GUYS HAVE TO BE SO MEAN! THIS IS PRETTY! NOT ALL SKIRTS HAVE ALOT OF CURL, DEPENDS UPON FABRIC! (NT) -- No name, 11:58:50 10/01/10 Fri
  - Seriously? It looks like it has giant metal springs attached that take up half the front AND back! Buy it & have (NT) -- your kid wear it AS IS at a big pageant - I dare you!, 14:27:56 10/01/10 Fri
- WOW i thought everyone was just being mean again, but you are right. Never could compete. (NT) -- No name, 01:58:16 10/02/10 Sat
- whoever post their clothes on the pink is begging someone to bash (NT) -- just dont put it on here!! Thats a no brainer, 09:12:55 10/02/10 Sat
- somebody actually bought that piece of crap! (NT) -- No name, 09:57:55 10/12/10 Tue
  - It was only $26 and you can remove the ribbon. I think they got a good deal! (NT) -- No name, 13:39:55 10/12/10 Tue
- Yes, the dress is being shipped to Norway. It is a gorgeous CHRISTMAS dress. She got a STEAL of a deal! (NT) -- Have a NICE day! Sandy, 09:07:22 10/13/10 Wed
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- i'd have to agree with this (NT) -- No name, 04:45:58 10/13/10 Wed
Who are some pageant moms that do good banners? -- No name, 12:56:41 09/30/10 Thu [12]
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- Leslie Rutledge with Toodles Doodles (NT) -- No name, 12:43:15 10/01/10 Fri
  - hers look really cheap!I wouldnt use her. (NT) -- No name, 13:00:52 10/01/10 Fri
    - I DID NOT ask your opinion on how well they did. I just wanted to know of some pageant moms who did banners. Bashing is needless and hurts people. (NT) -- No name, 22:38:04 10/01/10 Fri
      - Leslie does all my banners and she does amazing work! She is affordable and fast and great to work with. (NT) -- No name, 23:05:53 10/01/10 Fri
      - uh...yeah ya did, when you wrote in your op "good banners" (NT) -- No name, 13:52:54 10/02/10 Sat
  - website? (NT) -- No name, 20:25:05 10/04/10 Mon
- Genell Watson with Banners by Genell does great work and charges very little. (NT) -- No name, 00:04:03 10/02/10 Sat
  - Genells are not good.. Leslies are better than hers (NT) -- No name, 12:06:42 10/02/10 Sat
- wont get bashed if its pretty though, right? (NT) -- No name, 09:32:34 10/02/10 Sat
  - Stacy Gunn Photography, found her on Facebook (NT) -- No name, 21:08:36 10/12/10 Tue
    - Agree - Stacy does make really nice banners. (NT) -- No name, 21:54:02 10/12/10 Tue
AR was shafted! -- No name, 22:13:00 09/27/10 Mon [13]
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- Who is AR? (NT) -- No name, 22:39:16 09/27/10 Mon
- She won a title but was shafted? That is rude. Who should she have won higher than? (NT) -- No name, 23:09:53 09/27/10 Mon
  - mom should be happy she even got anything. there were alot (NT) -- of bigger names that only got beauty., 09:00:39 09/28/10 Tue
- AR -- No name, 09:05:39 09/28/10 Tue
  - Who is AR? What age group was she in? (NT) -- No name, 09:11:13 09/28/10 Tue
    - 6 yr. I thought her and Haley should have pulled. (NT) -- No name, 12:34:10 09/28/10 Tue
      - are you talking about HH? what did she get? (NT) -- she is such a pretty girl, 11:12:56 09/29/10 Wed
- Wait ...is AR A Rucker? How did she not pull a high title?? She is AMAZING. (NT) -- No name, 23:07:11 09/29/10 Wed
  - Yes that is her. What did she get? (NT) -- No name, 23:26:52 09/29/10 Wed
    - AR won 6 year old beauty (NT) -- No name, 20:35:51 09/30/10 Thu
- What is shafted? (NT) -- No name, 22:38:59 10/01/10 Fri
- ttt (NT) -- No name, 11:03:22 10/11/10 Mon
dg -- No name, 15:55:51 10/10/10 Sun [1]
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bo needs to fix board -- No name, 14:43:36 10/10/10 Sun [1]
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MOMS BEWARE! BAD VENDOR ALERT -- No name, 21:27:50 10/07/10 Thu [1]
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NATIONAL PAGEANT CHRISTMAS CASUAL WEAR! HELLO KITTY FULL SET! 6/12/18 $1NR BCB -- BCB, 06:03:39 10/04/10 Mon [1]
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Quit being a punk bitch -- No name, 20:53:44 09/29/10 Wed [10]
If you have a problem with someone fight them. Quit hiding. I doubt any of you bashers can back anything up.

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- Wow how positively............ urban of you. (NT) -- No name, 21:02:28 09/29/10 Wed
  - how positively....ignorant of you. Do people not realize that when you say (NT) -- "urban" or "thug" you might as well just say the other word???, 00:13:15 10/01/10 Fri
- fight them, really? When did you graduate from the 7th grade? (NT) -- or are you still on probation from your last offense........., 09:53:35 09/30/10 Thu
  - I usually don't agree with any kind of violence but sometimes people on here deserve nothing less than (NT) -- being punched right in their big mouth to shut them the hell up!!!, 11:54:35 09/30/10 Thu
- LMAO!!!!! (NT) -- No name, 19:17:58 09/30/10 Thu
- Hmmm..so you can't say urban now either? Better tell corporations that who use it in (NT) -- their name and advertising., 20:52:40 10/03/10 Sun
  - it depends on the context--when you say how "urban" of you, basically you are calling someone ghetto. It is a derogatory term when used that way, (NT) -- No name, 22:56:26 10/03/10 Sun
    - Oh for pete sakes, half the people want to be ghetto now anyway. (NT) -- No name, 00:14:15 10/04/10 Mon
    - Calling someone a punk bitch and encouraging fighting IS GHETTO deal with it. (NT) -- No name, 01:19:07 10/04/10 Mon
We are getting back into pageants after a break, what do you wear for OOC now? -- No name, 10:45:51 10/02/10 Sat [4]
I have no good ideas but I have a little time. TIA

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- You either wear a goddy costume or use a stage full of props and do pro dance routines. (NT) -- No name, 14:22:49 10/03/10 Sun
  - I think you mean gaudy -- No name, 18:16:04 10/03/10 Sun
- it is completely OUT of control, wish directors would get rid of the freaking props (NT) -- No name, 00:08:06 10/04/10 Mon
So happy to hear your DD is winning nicely. Hooray for her and for whoever got her to be that GOOD !!! -- Incredible how most forget this. Remember the lstRU beauty days., 20:13:25 10/02/10 Sat [6]
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- Someone believed in your DD remember the work it took tomake her a winner. (NT) -- If it wasn't for WHO you would be WHERE?, 20:14:47 10/02/10 Sat
- Who is this in reference to? (NT) -- jw, 22:21:42 10/02/10 Sat
- ????? -- No name, 22:56:15 10/02/10 Sat
- Yea, but, the mom's paid mega bucks to get her to the top. With H&M, Coaching, and the right clothes. (NT) -- No name, 01:32:56 10/03/10 Sun
- Sounds like a coach...or the coach's moma...wanting praise. (NT) -- No name, 11:26:00 10/03/10 Sun
NATIONAL PAGEANT ~PEACOCK~ CASUAL WEAR 4/7 1NR OOAK! ROYAL & ELEGANT! AMAZING STAND OUT COLORS FULL OF SHINE -- No name, 11:12:06 10/03/10 Sun [1]
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