I don't think they can throw out the high and low score, at least the irish points score because many competitions top results are based on getting one 100. If you take that away, what happens to the competition where 5 different dancers each got 100's? Although it surely would help and be fair to the dancer with the one ridiculously low score. -- World of Irish Dancing Message Board

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Date Posted: 13:00:41 11/04/07 Wed
Author: jmo
Subject: I don't think they can throw out the high and low score, at least the irish points score because many competitions top results are based on getting one 100. If you take that away, what happens to the competition where 5 different dancers each got 100's? Although it surely would help and be fair to the dancer with the one ridiculously low score.
In reply to: Interesting proposition 's message, "Rotating judges of 5 or 7 would dramatically change the results. Is it more fair?Throw out the high and the low and average the middle 5?" on 17:06:09 10/04/07 Tue

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They used to use the throw out the high and low system at Worlds; it's a long time ago & I'm old so I don't remember a lot of it, but I think there were 7 judges; tossing the high & low helps prevent blatant favoritism or grudges, but it can also hurt kids who genuinely impress one just more than others. Anyway, I've been told the ADs don't like havnig their score disregarded (NT) -- oldtimer, 15:02:00 11/04/07 Wed
- Understandably so. What judge wants to spend all that time and effort judging a competition, only to be told that their opinion doesn't count because it isn't completely in line with the majority? I can see that being a dis-incentive to adjudicating... (NT) -- Dudley, 16:09:54 11/04/07 Wed
  - But it's not supposed to be about the judge's feelings, they're grown-ups and getting paid to judge. Besides, if a dancer is that spectacular, all the judges should score them about the same (NT) -- Nell, 18:54:26 11/04/07 Wed
    - True, it isn't supposed to be about the judges' feelings. By the same token, at the Worlds level, most of the dancers are pretty spectacular. The difficulty is choosing the absolute best of the best out of 100 or so dancers. I guess it all boils down to what each judge is looking for, and what they personally see as "spectacular." Perhaps the idea behind a set panel is consistency: the judges are able to view dancers' performances in each round and then identify the competitor that they feel is the best all-round dancer. Maybe the thinking is that, at this level, no dancer should be dancing a "bad round." Just one way of looking at things... (NT) -- Dudley, 20:11:09 11/04/07 Wed
      - With a panel of 5 at AI's, all 5 judges gave their 100 to 5 different kids. If the high and low were thrown out, 3 of these dancers would not have been in the top 5. Throwing out the scores in many cases will dramatically change the resutls. (NT) -- It would be interesting, 13:27:13 12/04/07 Thu

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