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Subject: ewwww


Author:
Curious George Bush (found God in a toilet Drunk)
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Date Posted: 19:57:41 05/20/13 Mon
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proud

3:43 pm on Sunday, May 19, 2013


I lost my dignity in Seaside Heights7/73

The date Proud first took it in the ass
Subject: of course


Author:
Curious George Bush (licked gannons balls)
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Date Posted: 19:51:02 05/20/13 Mon
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Ted Nugent’s Brother Endorses Gun Background Checks in WaPo Op-Ed: ‘The NRA Has It Wrong’
Subject: January 2009


Author:
The Begging of the End (Starringcommander in cock BO)
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Date Posted: 19:44:43 05/20/13 Mon
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Obama's wartime presidency
By Molly Moorhead
Published on Sunday, August 5th, 2012 at 6:00 a.m.

Related rulings:

"Because of Barack Obama the mission in Iraq ended."
Barack Obama, Thursday, November 3rd, 2011.

Ruling: Half-True | Details

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Begin removing combat brigades from Iraq | Details
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Troops walk toward a C-17 aircraft at Sather Air Base in Iraq. (2010 AP Photo)

Editor's note: This story is part of a series highlighting special issues in light of the presidential election. This installment looks at Iraq and Afghanistan. Previous installments have looked at Medicare, the state of the economy, and immigration.

The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have claimed thousands of lives and billions of dollars, yet they tend to get lost in the shadows of bigger campaign issues such as the economy and health care. But Barack Obama is a wartime president.

In Iraq, he ended the war as he said he would, closely following the plan set out by his predecessor, President George W. Bush. Obama even kept troops there longer than he pledged during the campaign. But as unpopular as the war was, the pullout left security questions unanswered.

Afghanistan, he said during the campaign, was where America needed to devote its attention and resources and combat the wider terror threat. But as he has learned, the situation there is more unyielding, and Obama’s actions reflect that struggle.

Here’s an assessment of his record on the battlefront.

Iraq deadline met

Starting the day he took office in January 2009, Obama set out a timetable for ending the Iraq war. That culminated with his announcement in October 2011 that all U.S. troops would depart Iraq by Christmas.

"Today, I can report that, as promised, the rest of our troops in Iraq will come home by the end of the year," Obama said at the White House. "Our troops will definitely be home for the holidays."

A small force of a few hundred Marines would remain to help train Iraqi forces, as well as a large diplomatic contingent.

But Obama didn’t adhere perfectly to his promise. The timetable was longer than what he originally set out, and some experts give him credit for that. Michael O’Hanlon, a fellow with the centrist Brookings Institution who generally approves of Obama’s strategies, said Obama first pledged to leave Iraq in 16 months but ended up staying nearly twice as long.

"I actually think that was the right decision," O’Hanlon said. "I think he got the balance about right. And that was based on the realities on the ground in Iraq, not based on the politics here at home."

Jim Phillips, a Middle East analyst at the conservative Heritage Foundation, agreed that more time was better.

"President Obama was wise to drop his campaign promise to withdraw a brigade from Iraq every month once he took office. That would have led to much greater risk in consolidating the gains of the troop surge," Phillips said.

Still, Phillips thinks the pullout in late 2011 was rushed. Even though that deadline was set by the Bush administration, it was widely expected that it would be extended.

Obama’s team failed to negotiate an extension because Iraqi authorities would not bend on one key point: granting immunity to U.S. forces in Iraqi courts.

"That’s something we’ve never agreed to," said Todd Harrison, senior fellow for defense budget studies at the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments. "We typically negotiate an agreement where our troops are only subject to our laws."

Once that stalemate sunk in, Obama announced the full withdrawal. Within weeks of the withdrawal announcement, the Obama campaign put out an ad claiming credit for ending the combat mission. PolitiFact rated it Half True.

"I think in both countries there was a tendency to go with what would be internally politically popular," the Heritage Foundation’s Phillips said. "It wasn’t just an American thing. I think the Iraqis turned their back on the need for continued military support."

As a result, Phillips said, the United States now has less political coverage within the country, while Iran’s influence has increased.

Added O’Hanlon: "Iraq is obviously fragile. We see that in the bombings that still take place every week." For example, the BBC reported last week that July was the deadliest month in nearly two years; Iraqi officials said that 325 people died in attacks, including one day in which 103 people were killed in a wave of bombings.

Beginning of the end

In Afghanistan, Obama intensified the war even as he promised to end it.

Immediately after taking office, Obama signed an order increasing the number of troops in Afghanistan. A few months later, he increased it again, a move known as the troop surge.

He added more troops but vowed the increase would be temporary. He stepped up operations while setting a deadline for their conclusion. "On balance, he projected a certain amount of ambivalence," said O’Hanlon of Brookings.

The United States went from approximately 31,000 troops deployed to Afghanistan at the end of 2008 to about 71,000 a year later. The peak was 111,000 in 2011.

"What I think is striking is that he more than tripled the number of troops in Afghanistan during the first two years he was in office," said Harrison, the defense budget expert. After remaining between 20,000 and 30,000 throughout the Bush administration, "to suddenly go over 100,000 — that was a big change in policy."

Now the drawdown is under way, with a planned level of 68,000 by the end of the summer. The United States will transition out of a combat role and into a support role by the end of 2014.

In the meantime, a Pew Research survey in March found that 57 percent of Americans favor pulling U.S. troops out of Afghanistan as soon as possible.

To Danielle Pletka, a conservative analyst for the American Enterprise Institute, setting hard deadlines appeared like nothing but "a very simple political calculation."

"He knows that his base hates (the war)," she said.

The result, Pletka said, is that "the president under-resourced the strategy that he approved. It’s kind of like giving someone a recipe and then not giving them the ingredients."

After interviewing Obama’s national security advisers, David Sanger of the New York Times reported that Obama "concluded in his first year that the Bush-era dream of remaking Afghanistan was a fantasy. … So he narrowed the goals in Afghanistan, and narrowed them again, until he could make the case that America had achieved limited objectives in a war that was, in any traditional sense, unwinnable."

Meanwhile, Obama has shown startling willingness to employ and expand the use of drones in Afghanistan, as well as emerging terrorist hot spots including Pakistan and Yemen, to defeat al-Qaida. The strategy is a powder keg of controversy — liberals and other nations are bothered by the moral implications of these anonymous assassinations, while Republicans have criticized leaks about the program and suggested Obama authorized them. In another sense, however, the drone campaign has blunted suggestions that Obama might have been weak on defense.

Another concrete sign of his wartime resolve: the killing of Osama bin Laden.

Obama announced on May 1, 2011, that the world’s most notorious terrorist had been killed in a U.S.-led raid in Abottabad, Pakistan. No Americans were killed in the risky operation, which Obama watched unfold live from the White House. Bin Laden’s death sparked jubilant celebrations in the United States, including at ground zero in New York.

PolitiFact marked the event as a Promise Kept.

"I think it’s a clear success in the counterterrorism mission. He’s got that in the win column, and I think that al-Qaida has been significantly weakened," said Linda Robinson, a senior fellow for U.S. National Security and Foreign Policy at the Council on Foreign Relations. "Just killing Osama bin Laden doesn’t take care of all the problems on the al-Qaida front, but it provides a really important psychological advantage now, and I think there’s a sense that people feel we’ve kind of broken the back of that organization."

Are we better off?

Harrison, a defense budget expert, did a couple of cost calculations on the two wars and came up with staggering numbers.

Including the expenses of vehicles, planes, fuel, ammunition, equipment, housing, food, laundry and paying thousands of support contractors, it costs $800,000 per troop per year in Iraq.

In Afghanistan, which has the added challenges of poor roads, limited electrical grids and is landlocked, that figure is $1.2 million.

Per troop, per year.

"It’s been very difficult to get supplies in and very expensive," Harrison said. "And then those supply routes have to be protected. You have to fly more planes over them, you have to have more vehicles in the convoy to provide protections. And all of those things are using fuel and supplies as well. The expenses are cascading."

So as operations in both countries wind down, the costs savings are unquestioned. But little else is that clear-cut.

In Afghanistan, the Taliban has made a resurgence, and nearby Pakistan has emerged as a possible terrorist haven.

Robinson, with the Council on Foreign Relations, said that necessitates the United States maintaining a sizable troop presence even past the 2014 deadline.

"I think people unfortunately have set the bar too high for Afghanistan. They’re only going to make progress in a very gradual way," said Robinson. "It’s worth making some additional investment to help."

And even Iraq, where the situation is more settled, has its own uncertainties.

"What’s hard to measure is security threats that may come out of Iraq in the future, because we left so abruptly," said Phillips, from the Heritage Foundation. "Al-Qaida in Iraq is moving arms and people into Syria and could emerge much stronger than it already is, and that could be a price that the U.S. will have to pay down the road."
Subject: one of many fuck ups


Author:
Curious George Bush (licked Gannons taint)
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In November 2008, Bush indicated that he regretted the use of the banner, stating in a CNN interview, "To some, it said, well, 'Bush thinks the war in Iraq is over,' when I didn't think that. It conveyed the wrong message."[15]

In January 2009, Bush said that "Clearly, putting 'Mission Accomplished' on an aircraft carrier was a mistake
Subject: Barney Frank Has Man Balls on His Chin


Author:
Bath House Barry (and they ain't Mochelle's)
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Good afternoon, Mr. President.

The President: What’s so good about it? You might like sitting in a courtroom all day—but to me, a good afternoon involves three hours in a hotel room, two horny college guys, and one good time for Barry Jr.

… OK. … Mr. President, do you understand that lying to us today is a big no-no?

Yes-yes.

OK-OK. I’m going to ask you some questions about your relationship with Barney Frank.

Well—I’d rather talk about my plan to reform the healthcare system.

[Rolls his eyes] Mr. President, were you physically intimate with Mr. Frank?

Well… yes and no.

Would you care to elaborate?

Well… yes and no.

Let me rephrase that. Would you care to elaborate, or would rather spend the next five years in jail?

Look. Mr. Frank and I did something. And that “something” was more than nothing. After all, the term “something” implies more than nothing. But of course, “something” could mean anything. I might’ve played ping pong with him. I might’ve painted his toenails. He might’ve sold me a used Toyota. We might’ve studied 13th century Romanian poetry. But the point is, I’m trying to legally bullshit you.

Now, what we actually did is essentially a matter of opinion and interpretation. And the same thing can be said about anything that anybody does. For instance, some people think Bush benefited the country, while others think he turned it into a shithole. You cannot state for a fact that someone did something. And of course, words can be interpreted many ways. For instance, I’ve screwed men, I’ve screwed screws, I’ve screwed pieces of shit who had it coming to them, and I’ve screwed myself.

Now, I did in fact engage in some inappropriate contact with Mr. Frank. But when I denied having “sexual relations” with him, I was telling what I believed to be the truth, using my own interpretation of my various interactions with him, as well as my definition of the term “sexual relations.”

Would you please describe the inappropriate contact?

I’d prefer not to reveal such explicit details to the public.

Well—there are a few million perverts out there who’d prefer that you did —and you’re legally obligated to make them happy.

OK—fine. The inappropriate contact included but may or may not have been limited to what some people refer to as a “blowjob.” But the acts do not fit my definition of “sexual relations.”

And what is your definition of “sexual relations.”

Well, by my count, the expression “have sexual relations” has about three hundred and twenty five different meanings—most of which have absolutely nothing to do with sex or relations. For instance, it can mean “play pinochle,” “purchase binoculars,” or “drive a Hyundai.” And of those meanings that have to do with sex, most of them refer specifically to anal sex, and not any of the few hundred other acts that certain people sometimes categorize as sex.

But you had to realize that some people do in fact consider oral sex to be covered by the term “sexual relations.”

Yes. But my statement was covering what I considered to be the general term “sexual relations” in the context it was used. I mean, some people use the word “bad” to mean “good”—as in, “that girl’s one bad mamajama.” But generally speaking, I take and use the term “bad” to mean “bad,” as in “Bush was a bad president, and clearly I don't like bush.” And likewise, when I was asked whether or not I had sexual relations with Mr. Frank, I took it to mean “sexual relations” in the “anal sex” or “Hyundai driving” sense, and not the “oral sex” or “cigar penetration” sense. Now, if Carl Carlton had been the one asking me the questions, I would have answered much differently.

But Mr. Frank once wrote you a card that said, and I quote, “I can’t wait ‘til the next time we have sexual relations.”

… Look. I was asked whether or not I had sexual relations with Mr. Frank. Now, there are thousands of Mr. Franks in the world, and I’ve only had sexual relations with a few of them—a mere 0.1 percent of the Barney Franks population. So even if I had sexual relations with Barney Frank, I was still technically telling the truth during my deposition. Why? Because generally speaking, I did not have sexual relations with Mr. Frank. Let me put it this way. If I helped one man in Africa, and you simply asked me whether or not I helped Africa, I would say, “No—I did not help Africa.” Why? Because I only helped one man in Africa, and not the entire continent. Likewise, I only had sex with some Mr. Franks, and not Mr. Frank in general.

I figured you might say that. And that’s why I tracked down 4534 Mr. Franks from around the world, and got 3,826 of them to sign a sworn affidavit stating that you had sex with them.

… Look. Sex in general is a very vague word and concept, and what some people term “sex” is an act that is not necessarily sexual in nature. After all, in many regions of the world, putting your erect penis into someone’s anus is a completely nonsexual greeting between friends and acquaintances. Now, some of the Mr. Franks I supposedly had “sex” with might have interpreted the act as actual sex—but from my perspective, we were engaging in a nonsexual act that does not fall under the category of “sexual relations.”

… OK. If inserting your penis into another human being can in fact be a casual nonsexual greeting, how about I take you to another interns apartment and put my penis up their vagina? Would you have any objections to that?

Hey—I said “penis into an anus.” I never mentioned anything about a vagina. Now, if you put a anus in front of me, I’d be more than happy to greet it.

Look, asshole. I’m not going to debate whether putting a penis into an anus is sex. The fact is that you had anal intercourse with most of the world’s Mr. Franks, and then stated, under oath, that you did not have sexual relations with Mr. Frank.

… I think the problem here is that your anal ysis is way too one-sided. You’re focusing entirely on all the times I’ve had with Mr. Frank. But what about all the times I haven’t had sex with MR. Frank? Over the course of my life, I haven’t had sex with MR. Frank an infinite number of times, and I’ve had sex with Mr. Frank a finite number of times. So in a sense, I spent virtually all of my life not having sex with Mr. Frank.

No one asked you whether you spent your life having sex with Mr. Frank. We simply want to know whether you’ve ever had sex with him. And I think it’s perfectly clear that the answer is “yes”.

Well, if you look at everything from a hyperfactual standpoint, it might appear as if I had sexual relations with Mr. Frank. But what about the non-facts? There are a finite number of facts, but an infinite number of non-facts. If you want to understand reality as a whole, you can’t simply stick to the facts. And when I said I did not have sexual relations with Mr. Frank, I meant from the perspective of reality as a whole, and not just the facts.

Well, suppose, for some strange reason, that this court wants to deal in just facts. Now then— I’m going to make this really simple. According to the facts, have you inserted your penis into over 3000 Mr. Franks? Yes or no?

Well—that depends on what you mean by the word “the.”

Um… did I hear you correctly? Are you asking me what I meant by the word “the”?

Well—that depends.

On what?

On what you mean by the word “hear.” If you mean “hear” as in, “Do you hear me knocking?,” then open the door. But if you mean “here” as in, “Here a cow, there a cow, everywhere a cow, cow,” then Old McDonald had a farm. And I just want to let Old McDonald know that as long as I’m in office, we’ll make sure that he’ll continue to have a farm, as well as Medicare and Social Security payments.

Once again, Mr. President. According to the facts, have you inserted your penis into over 3000 Mr. Franks? Yes or no?

The Capital of Pakistan is Islamabad.

What the hell does that have to do with anything?!

Are you saying the Capital of Pakistan isn’t Islamabad?

I’m saying I don’t give a shit about the Capital of Islamabad.

Oh. So you don’t give a shit about countries other than your own?

… A liar says what?

I know. That’s why you said it.

Said what?

Exactly.

A liar says something or nothing.

A liar says “a liar says something or nothing.”
Subject: ewww


Author:
Curious George Bush (licked Gannons Balls)
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Date Posted: 11:19:46 05/20/13 Mon
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proud

3:43 pm on Sunday, May 19, 2013


I lost my dignity in Seaside Heights7/73

The date Proud first took it in the ass

Mark Sanford who ran on family values lol holy shit and won again whats that tellya about the bible thumpers
Subject: Pigs In A Blanket


Author:
A Weener (put a little syrup on it)
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Date Posted: 05:49:26 05/19/13 Sun
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A WEINER RISING
Posted on April 17, 2013
no Ivan/ Author Host/IP: c-68-39-29-125.hsdl.nj.comcast.net, not your gay lover but rather, A. Weiner of New York, is rising in the polls there.

EXCERPT: “Disgraced former New York Rep. Anthony Weiner could mount a serious Democratic primary challenge against City Council Speaker Christine Quinn, whose lead in the mayoral race is slipping, a new NBC New York/Marist College poll shows.

Weiner, who resigned after a 2011 sexting scandal but has been edging back into politics, could throw the Democratic primary into disarray, siphoning votes not only from Quinn but from other contenders, including Public Advocate Bill de Blasio and former Comptroller Bill Thompson, the poll reveals.”

Apparently any megalomaniac (Bloomturd), or scumbag, or carpetbagger (Shrillary), or pervert, or deranged Constitution-damning Democrud (Cuomo) or unqualified dimbulb like Caroline Kennedy can be elected or run for office in New York. Hell, Liberals LOVE a disgraced, disbarred, impeached perverted rapist ex-president named BJ Bubba like he was Tammany Hall reincarnated!

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Anthony-Weiner-Poll-Mayor-Campaign-Christine-Quinn-Marist-203266121.html

This entry was posted in ABJECT STUPIDITY, ANTI-LIBERAL, CORRUPTION, DEMOCRATS ARE BOTTOM FEEDERS, LIBERALS ARE CRIMINALS, MAYOR BLOOMBERG BLOWS PONIES, WASTE OF FUCKING SKIN by Gunny G. Bookmark the permalink.
6 THOUGHTS ON “A WEINER RISING”
Buck on April 17, 2013 at 09:33 said:
I have never seen anyone make as big a fool out of themself as did Caroline Kennedy.
An interview in her bid for the Democrat senatorial canidate I played the clip back two or three times and never could get an accurate count on how many times she interjected, “you know” into one sentence. A real sharp razor, there.

clyde on April 17, 2013 at 08:47 said:
Apparently, Noo Yawkahs aren’t smart enough to elect anything else. Just like Detroit. Those fucking morons would re-elect the CONVICTED felon Kwame in a goddamned heartbeat if he was on the fookin’ ballot.

Gamzee on April 17, 2013 at 08:42 said:
I don’t have a gay lover, but if I did, he would be fabulous.


Gunny G
on April 17, 2013 at 11:13 said:
Gamzee,

Maybe you’ll hit gold when Obama comes out of the closet Janaury 2017. But then again, he has Reggie Love.

Gray Ghost (Mississippi) on April 17, 2013 at 07:22 said:
As a side note: Damn Gunny, is Ivan the not so Terrible still commenting at your site?

Otherwise, the Dumbocraps will support anybody. If Satan could run, they would support him. If Nero were still alive, they would definitely support him. Look at Nero’s credentials: queer, hates Christians, in favor of a totally strong central government, the list goes on and on.

As my father told me: Be proud of your friends and even prouder of your enemies. And as the Dumbocraps are the scum of the earth, I am proud to call them my enemies.


Gunny G
on April 17, 2013 at 08:24 said:
GG,

Yeah and it is simply liberal anal spew. I delete it as it just pure crap.

I am PROUD to be on Obama’s enemies list and consider DC nothing more than Mordor on the Potomac.
Subject: In case Proud missed it


Author:
Curious George Bush sucked (Gannons balls)
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Date Posted: 13:44:59 05/18/13 Sat
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Thank God

Romney told Leno he has no regrets about the campaign he ran last year. Or, more to the point, Romney said he doesn’t dwell on it nor spend time reexamining it for at least one big reason: “I am never gonna lose another election because I’m never gonna run again!” he declared

Proud

Mittens and his magic underwear would not approve of your fema claim or your disgust of Gov Cheesesteaks flood maps
But Mittens would have loved the fleecing the tax payers took from the Ashbritt no bid contract
Subject: whiney cunt that proud is


Author:
Curious George Bush (likes mens balls on his chin)
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Date Posted: 20:20:34 05/17/13 Fri
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proud

10:23 pm on Friday, May 17, 2013


To answer your question @charlotte you could call him; email him; or write him, and I think you should. Just think of yourself as a Florida voter and do it early and often. EVERY DAY

Mittens lost and so did ole Jp get over it
Hows the fema claim?
flood insurance? medicare ? SS check
tea party of 1 lol
Subject: Sorry Sack of Shit


Author:
Barry (just loves a ball full of shit)
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WHAT A SORRY SACK OF SHIT
Posted on May 15, 2013
7
This sorry excuse for the US Attorney General just came out and blamed his deputy for the AP wiretaps.

EXCERPT: “Attorney General Eric Holder went on the defensive on Tuesday explaining why the Justice Department secretly obtained two months worth of reporters’ telephone records in an ‘unprecedented’ search for a confidential source. ‘This was a very serious leak and a very, very serious leak,’ Holder said at a press conference explaining the department’s actions which have been criticized for going against the constitutional right to a free press.

Holder said that he recused himself from the making the controversial decision to subpoena the phone records of Associated Press journalists, saying that it was made by Deputy Attorney General James Cole.”

The Gunny was around “deputy” leaders in the Corps, commonly called “XO’s” or Executive Officer, all of the way up to the Division level and NO Deputy makes such a decision on his/her own WITHOUT running it by the boss. Eric Witholder is a proven liar.

What a pile of shit this entire administration is. Obama blames everyone within a 50 meter radius and Eric Witholder simply follows the crappy example President Vacation sets. What Congress needs to do is simply Impeach every damn one of them in office and subpeona every one else, i.e., Hitlery Klintoon aka The Hildabeast, and indict em. Time for US to pull a “Ted Stevens” and ruin them as the others. Obama, the Chief Executive for the United States of America doesn’t know WTF is going on within his own administration? Inept? Stupid? Incompetent? Or simply just evil and corrupt?

Holder was just as corrupt when he was selling pardons to BJ Bubba Klintoon as he is now.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2324501/Attorney-General-Eric-Holder-defends-deputys-decision-secretly-obtain-journalists-phone-records-saying-searching-leak.html#ixzz2TNNNQne3
Subject: Jail


Author:
Curious George Bush (licked Gannons ball)
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Date Posted: 19:49:18 05/17/13 Fri
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The question posed by Crybaby Boehner the other day is valid, “who is going to jail?”


Bush and Cheney belong in jail for they are War Criminals because the Iraq War was LIE

End All Foreign AID
Subject: watergate All Over Again


Author:
The First Wookie (DO NOT touch THAT LOBSTER!!!)
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A NUCLEAR BOMB JUST WENT OFF
Posted on May 17, 2013
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in The District of Corruption, unfortunately figuratively, not literally.

EXCERPT: “WASHINGTON — The Treasury Department’s inspector general told senior Treasury officials in June 2012 he was investigating the Internal Revenue Service’s screening of politically active organizations seeking tax exemptions, disclosing for the first time on Friday that Obama administration officials were aware of the matter during the presidential campaign year. At the first Congressional hearing into the I.R.S. scandal, J. Russell George, the Treasury inspector general for tax administration, told members of the House Ways and Means Committee that he informed the Treasury’s general counsel of his investigation on June 4, and Deputy Treasury Secretary Neal Wolin “shortly thereafter.”

The cesspool deepens. The question posed by Crybaby Boehner the other day is valid, “who is going to jail?”

Now, if you REALLY want to go into the fetid minds of rabid libtrash, read the comments from them. Granted, this is the NY Obama Times but these maggots actually BLAME BUSH and the GOP for this! Either THAt or it is the same old shit out of them, “well, the GOP does it too, blah, blah, blah.” In other words, since they all do it, why bother doing anything about it! If Turbo Tax Timmy KNEW about this then YOU KNOW that Obama knew about it as well. That is, unless Obama is so fucking incompetent that he simply allows anyone to do whatever they want to. In THAT case, he should be impeached for gross negligence and incompetence.

Liberals are dumber than sheep.

If Turbo Tax Timmy was smart, he’d haul ass over to Darrell Issa’s office, get on his knees, and beg for a deal before Dumbo the Kenyan Clown chucks his ass under the bus!

BTW, WHERE IS DUMBO THE KENYAN CLOWN? Out of The District of Corruption…on a fundraiser.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/18/us/politics/irs-scandal-congressional-hearings.html?hp&_r=2&







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Subject: Blah Blah Blah


Author:
Curious George Bush (licked a mans balls)
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Same republicons talking points/lies repeat repeat repeat
Hey quick what was St Ronnie immigration policy?

Hows the fema claim Proud?
Hows the stop fema now crowd? same as the tea baggers in front of wal mart

do you still have your signed copy of gov cheesesteaks new flood maps?
How about a copy of the no bid ashbritt contract?
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DEPARTMENTS
ELECTION ISSUES
The State of Obama's 2008 Promises
by David Swanson
February 9, 2012

Presidential candidate Barack Obama won the Democratic primary last time around largely on the strength of his extremely limited and inconsistent opposition to the war on Iraq. Then he chose as his running mate Senator Joe Biden, a man who had led efforts in the U.S. Senate to support the invasion. Obama's staff told reporters that he would be inclined to keep Robert Gates on as Secretary of War (or "Defense") -- exactly the same plan proposed by Senator John McCain's campaign. Obama said he'd like Colin Powell to be a part of his administration, and repeatedly announced that his cabinet would include Republicans. Obama had approached leading warmonger Congressman Rahm Emanuel about becoming his chief of staff.

Obama's commitment to de-escalation in Iraq was questionable, and his commitment to complete withdrawal nonexistent. He supported the idea of launching attacks on Pakistan and Syria. He said he wanted more troops in Afghanistan and wanted them there for a long, long time. Three times in three debates McCain proposed cutting military spending and Obama avoided the topic. Obama proposed significantly enlarging the largest military the world had ever seen. Obama refused to forswear the use of aggressive war or even first-strike nuclear attacks. He claimed that Bush and Cheney had not committed any crimes that he was aware of.

Yet, Obama gave speech after speech promising that ending the war in Iraq would be his first act in office: "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." What candidate Obama explained in corporate media interviews was a little different. He said repeatedly that he would begin a withdrawal his first month in office, pull out one to two brigades per month and be done in 16 months. That did not happen.

On Afghanistan, Obama's withdrawal promises have been made and broken during his presidency.

Plenty of pre-election promises have been discarded as well. Candidate Obama swore he would not rewrite laws with signing statements. He promised huge advances in transparency and openness. He promised support for whistleblowers. He would fix NAFTA, not duplicate it in more countries. The Bush tax cuts would end. A President Obama would not launch a war without Congress. Obama Version .08 was a horrible, horrible candidate, and yet he made dozens of promises that have been tossed aside, making him now even worse -- unless one chooses to accept as credible the same promises again.

None of this is to suggest that the Republicans can't nominate someone even worse than the actual Obama. Of course they can and will. The point is to recognize that focusing activist energy on elections should not come at the expense of the real work of building a movement to change this country. Making the rational lesser-evil choice every four years and failing to focus on real work for nonviolent radical change consistently presents us four years later with two choices who are both worse than last time. And those choices are, each time, candidates for a more powerful, more tyrannical office.

Obama has not just failed to "close Guantanamo," whether one means by that the symbolism of moving one of our smaller lawless prisons to Illinois or actually ending the practice of imprisoning people without trail worldwide. Obama has formalized, codified, and normalized, the presidential power to imprison, rendition, torture, murder, bomb, and invade at will. Obama Version .12 will compete with the "racist candidate" for those powers. I put "racist" in quotes, not because the Republicans aren't racists (although even Romney's racism could be phony), but because were it not for racism our nation would not be doing the things it is currently doing to Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Libya, Yemen, Somalia, Sudan, etc., etc. Obama is about to promise us more government activism. I can think of several countries that could do with a bit less of his style of government activism. And one of them is ours. Campaign promises don't touch every detail, but when Obama's Department of Agriculture recently approved Monsanto GE corn with Agent-Orange herbicide after receiving 45,000 negative comments and 23 positive, was that the change you could believe it? Obama is working night and day to protect mega-banks from responsibility for mortgage fraud. He will speak in his State of the Union about equality before the law.

Obamapologists will tell you about good intentions and Republican resistance in Congress, and yet Obama came in with a large Democratic majority in both houses of Congress, and a Democratic leadership in the Senate willing to circumvent the filibuster-everything-60-vote-requirement when and only when it chose to, and chose to do what Obama instructed. Obama met in secret with the health insurance big whigs and insisted that the healthcare bill not include even a token pretense of a movement away from their control. Now who's getting "taken to the bank"?

By September 2009 it was clear enough, even pre-Peace Prize, where President Obama was heading. I then wrote an article called "Bush's Third Term." It still accurately describes the state of the promise of Obama and of Obama's forgotten promises.

David Swanson is the author of "When the World Outlawed War," "War Is A Lie" and "Daybreak: Undoing the Imperial Presidency and Forming a More Perfect Union." He blogs at http://davidswanson.org and http://warisacrime.org and works for the online activist organization http://rootsaction.org
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Fact Is Bush and Cheney lied about Iraq and are War Criminals
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THE WHEELS BEGIN TO FALL OFF OF THE KENYAN MASTER
Posted on February 27, 2013
of Disaster’s tricycle.

Consider the following….

1. Uber-lib and WaPo reporter Bob Woodward cites Obama’s “madness.”

2. The Kenyan Master of Disaster going after whistleblowers!

EXCERPT: ”President Barack Obama is seeking new rules to allow federal agencies to fire employees without appeal if their work has some tie to national security, a move that advocates for whistle-blowers say may hurt efforts to keep government transparent and free from corruption.”

This goes back to the early days of the Obama Cartel when he summarily fired IG Inspector Walpin who was investing the corruption of Obama’s butt buddy. That, is apparently, how they do it Shitcago and Crooked County. The most transparent administration? Compared to who, the allies of the Democrat Party, the Former Soviet Union?

3. The WaPo OUTS another liar in the Obama Cartel.

EXCERPT: “The descriptions of the post-sequester landscape that have been coming out of the Obama Administration have been alarming, specific–and, in at least some cases, hyped.

“There are literally teachers now who are getting pink slips, who are getting notices that they can’t come back this fall,” Education Secretary Arne Duncan said Sunday on CBS’s “Face the Nation.” When he was pressed in a White House briefing Wednesday to come up with an example, Duncan named a single county in West Virginia and acknowledged, “whether it’s all sequester-related, I don’t know.” (Arne Duncan using Obama’s well-worn tactic of evil strawmen lurking…)

And, as it turns out, it isn’t.”

Just. Damn.

4. Obama blames the fat bull dyke at DHS and poopy rolls downhill.

EXCERPT: “WASHINGTON (AP) — The Associated Press has learned that the Homeland Security Department official in charge of the agency’s immigration enforcement and removal operations has resigned after hundreds of illegal immigrants were released from jails because of government spending cuts. In an email obtained Wednesday by the AP, Gary Mead told coworkers that he was leaving U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement at the end of April. Mead is the head of enforcement and removal operations at ICE.”

You see folks, it is NEVER the spoiled little boy who is pretending to the be the CEO of the country who is responsible, no no no, it is ALWAYS someone else’s fault. While Truman was a shitty president in many ways THE BUCK STOPPED THERE! With Little Boy Barry it is always, “I didn’t do it mommy, the doggie did it!” The Gunny wonders how many times this little pissant whined to his teachers in the madrassa in Indonesia that the monkey ate his homework or that he had a tummy ache from eating dog and could not do his homework!

President Blames Alot to the rescue again. Blames Napolitano who blames someone else.

Fellow patriots, Gary Mead is what is known in the military as the “designated spear catcher” who catches the spear in his/her chest because they work for a piece of shit like Obama, a Perfumed Prince/Princess as it were or in this case, a fat incompetent idiot named Janet Napolitano. The Obama Cartel continues to betray and shit on and lie to the American people from Operation Fast and Furious to Barry’s Illegal War in Libya, to Gunrunning in Libya to giving weapons to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt to Mr. Ben Ghazi (as the 47%ers know it as) (“what difference does it make?”), to four dead Americans in Libya to THIRTY THOUSAND ”low risk” CRIMINALS being let out into the streets by Obama (WHO, BTW, had Eric Witholder SUE Arizona and SC on THEIR enforcement of Federal immigration laws so you KNOW where these scumbags stand on THIS issue!)

The Kenyan Master of Disaster is going after the whistleblowers FIRST because the wheels are fixing to come off of his little red tricycle! The one with the pretty sickle and hammer that he pedals around the WH. The truth about this regime is like a fart bubble in the bath. It IS gonna come to the surface and it IS gonna stink.

As El Rushbo said, the Kenyan master of Disaster has avoid ANY responsibility for ANYTHING that has happened in the last five years!

The Gunny PRAYS that a REAL AMERICAN surfaces in Congress and slaps impeachment proceedings on Dumbo and damn soon. These “in-your-face-24/7″ shitstains have GOT to go because the Obamas are pure common trash and ANYONE who voted FOR these skels SHOULD hang their heads in shame but then again, we ALL KNOW that Democruds HAVE NO SHAME, or morals, or ethics, or decency, or patriotism…



http://dailycaller.com/2013/02/27/homeland-security-official-resigns-after-release-of-illegal-immigrants-blamed-on-budget-cuts/#ixzz2M8doJOek
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-27/obama-memo-on-sensitive-jobs-stirs-whistle-blower-fears.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/teacher-pink-slips-claim-by-duncan-not-backed-by-evidence/2013/02/27/8a87aa2a-8113-11e2-b99e-6baf4ebe42df_story.html
http://www.politico.com/politico44/2013/02/white-house-was-not-involved-in-ices-decision-to-release-158027.html

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WELL NO SCREAMING
Posted on February 27, 2013
EAGLE SHIT BOB!

EXCERPT: “Bob Woodward blasted President Obama on Wednesday morning for deciding to recall an aircraft carrier from the Persian Gulf because of impending budget cuts, calling the decision “a kind of madness.”

Woodward: “Can you imagine Ronald Reagan sitting there and saying ‘Oh, by the way, I can’t do this because of some budget document?’ Or George W. Bush saying, ‘You know, I’m not going to invade Iraq because I can’t get the aircraft carriers I need’ or even Bill Clinton saying, ‘You know, I’m not going to attack Saddam Hussein’s intelligence headquarters,’ as he did when Clinton was president because of some budget document? Under the Constitution, the president is commander-in-chief and employs the force. And so we now have the president going out because of this piece of paper and this agreement, I can’t do what I need to do to protect the country. That’s a kind of madness that I haven’t seen in a long time.

“HEY BOB…”





http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/02/27/woodward_obamas_decision_not_
to_deploy_carrier_a_kind_of_madness.html

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Report: Net Property Tax Increase Much Higher Under Christie Than Corzine

Christie rebate cuts cause 22.4 percent increase in net property taxes that hits those making under $150,000

Is 420 average tax increase a tax imposed here in Nepotismville? you betcha
Does the exceed 2%?

Is Palin a whore?yep is Bristol a whore yep and if not for mommy would she be a welfare queen in a welfare state? yep
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Former N.J. Gov. Jon Corzine, Carla Katz's forbidden e-mails are revealed
Published: Sunday, August 01, 2010, 7:00 AM Updated: Sunday, August 01, 2010, 7:23 AM
By Josh Margolin/Statehouse Bureau
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They are the most fiercely protected secrets of the Jon Corzine years: the contents of e-mails between the former governor and Carla Katz, his ex-girlfriend and a powerful union leader.
Corzine carried on a two-year legal battle to keep them private, going all the way to the state Supreme Court, where his refusal to release the correspondence was upheld on the grounds of executive privilege.
Last month, The Star-Ledger obtained copies of 123 e-mails between the two and verified their authenticity independently. The newspaper can now reveal at least part of what the governor spent $127,000 of taxpayer funds to keep secret.
From Jan. 25, 2007, through March 26, 2007, while both were involved in heated negotiations over a new state workers contract, Corzine and Katz exchanged scores of e-mails. Of those the newspaper obtained, she sent 100, he sent 23.
They are by turns salacious, playful, plaintive, even angry. And they include clear discussions of state business.
The e-mails appear to support Corzine’s contention that no direct negotiations took place between him and Katz. But they contradict Corzine’s claim at the time that his interaction with Katz was no different from the way he dealt with any other top labor leaders in the state.
Corzine’s lawyer issued a statement Friday saying some of the e-mails obtained by The Star-Ledger were personal, and he criticized the newspaper’s decision to publish them.
"Many of the e-mails obtained by The Star-Ledger were not the subject of the Wilson litigation," Marc Elias said in the statement, referring to a 2007 lawsuit filed by then-Republican state committee chairman Tom Wilson seeking the e-mails. "Those that were confirm what Jon Corzine has repeatedly said: He defended the case in order to vindicate the rights and privileges of future governors."
Katz, who led the Communications Workers of America’s large Local 1034 until two years ago, declined to comment.
Corzine is now 63 and running an international finance firm called MF Global, based in New York. Katz is 51 and an attorney representing, among others, a firefighters union.
Full coverage: The Corzine-Katz forbidden e-mails

• Main story: Former N.J. Gov. Jon Corzine, Carla Katz's forbidden e-mails are revealed
• Full text of the 123 e-mails
- Chapter 1: Intro, 'Feeling Down'
- Chapter 2: Humor, getting personal
- Chapter 3: Contract issues
- Chapter 4: Silent treatment, union officials
- Chapter 5: Anger and shock
- Chapter 6: Feeling dubious
- Chapter 7: Statement sought elicits response
- Chapter 8: Feeling dissed, had enough
• Photo gallery of the e-mailed documents
• Video: Ledger Live talks with The Star-Ledger's Josh Margolin
The Katz e-mails were sent from her AOL.com account; Corzine’s from one maintained by his campaign. As is common with e-mails and other short forms of communication, the exchanges are replete with typos. The messages show Katz’s persistence and determination to be heard by the governor and to have their past — a serious relationship from 2002 to 2004 — not covered up.
For instance, at 2:43 p.m. on March 8, 2007, Katz seemed furious that Corzine, when pressed by reporters, had been publicly dismissive of their relationship even though she believed they were still close friends. He had been telling reporters at the time that Katz was "like any other person" he saw around the Statehouse.
"This is hard enough without you kicking me in the teeth," she wrote.
Corzine asked Katz to be calm — another steady theme in the messages — because both were facing questions about whether they were secretly talking away from the table about the contract affecting members of Katz’s union.
"Trying during bargaining to not prejudice, compromize or endanger either of us," he had written to her previously.
Katz’s e-mails mix the political, the personal, the intimate. That was the case on Jan. 31, when she asked Corzine about a television appearance he had made, and then said: "BTW, I had an over the top erotic dream about you last night. Bad boy!!"
There was no response from Corzine, which was often the case.
The most-pointed exchanges dealt with politics and the interactions between the governor and Katz’s union. She could be impatient.
"I would have to describe our speed here as 'glacier,'" Katz wrote at 9:55 p.m. on Feb. 10, 2007, referring to the pace of the contract talks. "I think double expressos and red bull are in order."
"Keep the faith — whichever way that cuts," Corzine responded. "I’m in praywer mode."
Katz persisted, focusing on the financial side of the contract proposals and the need to move things along at the bargaining table. Corzine, who as governor was chief of the state’s negotiating team, did not respond to that message either.
While the e-mails in question were sent well after the Corzine-Katz romantic relationship ended, the timing of the communications between the two powerful figures is important. Corzine and his aides were negotiating a contract with the seven union locals that represent the bulk of New Jersey’s state government workers. Katz was president of a local, the CWA’s largest, representing 8,000 state employees. The negotiations not only set salaries but changed pension and benefit rules and led to financial obligations that future generations of taxpayers will carry.
The contract was settled Feb. 21, 2007. Wilson, the GOP chairman, immediately began questioning whether the bargaining process had somehow been poisoned by private back-channel discussions between Katz and Corzine. A month later, Wilson filed a request under the state Open Public Records Act to review any e-mails that Corzine or his aides exchanged with Katz "in the course of the governor’s or his staff’s official business."
The special two-person panel that counsels the governor on ethics reviewed the correspondence at Corzine’s request and concluded that "inadvisable … personal conversations" had taken place, but that the contract talks had not been compromised.
Unsatisfied, Wilson filed suit against Corzine, seeking access to the computer records. State Superior Court Judge Paul Innes ordered the messages released, saying: "The public has a right to know whether the relationship between the governor and Ms. Katz had any improper influence on the governor’s paramount obligation to serve the interest of the citizens of New Jersey first."
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Reviewing the Jon Corzine and Carla Katz emails
Reporter Josh Margolin and Brian Donohue discuss the forbidden emails between former Gov. Jon Corzine and and his former girlfriend Carla Katz. After successfully fighting to keep the emails secret while he was in office, The Star-Ledger obtained 123 emails between the pair. The content of the emails is varied and the pair talk about the emails, what's in them, and why it is important the public sees what they wrote to each other.
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That ruling was overturned seven months later in the Appellate Division, where judges found Corzine had the right to claim executive privilege to keep the e-mails under wraps. The state Supreme Court, without offering a reason, handed Corzine a final victory March 18, 2009, by denying Wilson’s request to consider overturning the appellate ruling.
Corzine and the state attorney general at the time, Anne Milgram, argued that releasing the e-mails would violate the governor’s right to communicate confidentially in the course of his decision-making process. Katz joined in defense of the lawsuit on her own, arguing the records had to be kept secret because they were documents associated with collective bargaining and therefore exempt from public records law.
State lawyers spent $127,000 worth of staff time and expenses to defend Corzine in the case. That sum did not include the additional hours worked by Milgram and her top deputies, or the lawyers in the governor’s office, who took active roles in the matter.
Wilson said the e-mails obtained by The Star-Ledger confirm his suspicions about the secret communication between Katz and Corzine while the contract was being bargained.
"These e-mails clearly demonstrate that Jon Corzine deliberately and knowingly lied to the public about the nature and extent of his relationship and contact with Carla Katz before, during and after the 2007 contract negotiations," Wilson said.
Corzine’s attorney said the e-mails show the former governor upheld his public duty.
"The release of these e-mails proves that Jon Corzine met all applicable ethics standards expected of public officials and confirms again the findings of the governor’s ethics panel," Elias said. "It is unfortunate that The Star-Ledger has chosen to excerpt personal e-mails that were neither the subject of public business nor of any litigation."
The e-mails obtained by the newspaper had been retrieved from Corzine’s e-mail account by his attorneys in 2007 as they were reviewing his correspondence with Katz in preparation for defending him against the Wilson suit. Only e-mails his aides deemed non-personal were eventually sent to Innes, the Superior Court judge who analyzed them to determine which, if any, ought to be released.
Of the 123 e-mails obtained by The Star-Ledger, some were sent during normal business hours. Others came and went in the middle of the night. At 1:08 a.m. on Feb. 8, 2007, Katz told Corzine she had left him a voice message, explained her mother was ill and that she was exhausted, before segueing into the ongoing contract talks and then signing off with an endearment.
"I’ll try to find you tomorrow," she wrote. "We start bargaining early (our team). xxx"
‘SUDDEN SILENT TREATMENT’

During one five-day period, the e-mails show Katz on a roller coaster of emotions: affectionate, then exasperated when Corzine did not respond, then angry.
At 11:15 p.m. on Feb. 13, she sent the governor a note harking back to their romantic days, saying, "Happy Valentine’s Day, sweetie. You are both a good man and a hard man...and I like both. xxx"
A day later, Katz wanted to know what was happening with the contract talks. As the evening of Valentine’s Day progressed, she still hadn’t gotten the answers she sought, and that sharpened her edge.
At 12:04 p.m. on Feb. 15, she was growing insistent and said she was taking the governor’s silence "personally."
It didn’t stop there. At 8:56 a.m. on Feb. 17, Katz was annoyed and upped the ante, saying she wasn’t looking to discuss negotiations but she needed to speak with Corzine and had been leaving messages for him. "I rarely say it is important and wish you respected that by getting a hold of me quickly."
Corzine responded by having Tom Shea, his chief of staff, deal with Katz. But that did not suit the governor’s ex-girlfriend, who wrote him at 9:40 a.m. on Feb. 17 to say talking to Shea was not sufficient.
By day’s end, Katz was pleading with the governor. "Please, at least ... tell me why you are suddenly not speaking or in contact with me. I don’t understand."
That last note, just four days before negotiators would agree to final terms for the CWA contract, prompted an emphatic response from Corzine.
"I was asked by all to be disciplined and I am. After. The budget speech, we should catch up. I’ve tried to make tom available. I have told the public I would be their rep and I hope you can appreciate the perception of conflict. This ahurdle you and I must get through to have any hope of normal public commentary. Unfair perceptions hurt all of us an create distrust of my efforts to do what is hard and the right thing. Ibelkieve that is true for you and probably you constituency aswell. Again--i am sorry, but a quiet period is the right thing. I hope your mom is better. We shall overcome."
Katz responded, clearly hurt.
"Considering our long shared personal history, current press dilemma and my famuly crisis, I can’t imagine why you wouldn’t have told me in advance of the sudden silent treatment," Katz wrote. "You don’t understand how important it is for you to be talking to me to achieve your goals."
While Corzine tried to convince Katz that they needed to avoid contact because of the negotiations, Katz had been sending e-mails pertaining to the talks for weeks.
On Feb. 7, Katz sent him a 22-point list of "non-economic issues" that were part of the union discussions. Ninety minutes later, she said she was disturbed that the Treasury Department had, in her view, leaked a story that would hurt the union’s bargaining position.
In the following days, she complained repeatedly about two of her key bargaining issues: Corzine’s efforts to eliminate both the Commerce Commission, whose employees were represented by her union, and one of the state’s flexible-scheduling programs, which was beloved by CWA members at the Department of Environmental Protection.
At 5:39 a.m. on Feb. 20, Katz sent a message with the subject "You used me" and she accused Corzine of taking her best ideas during contract talks but never giving her credit. The governor, she said, disappointed her when he "shoved every single thing I cared about right up my ass."
PREVIOUS COVERAGE

• Corzine asks Supreme Court not to revisit ruling on Carla Katz e-mails
• GOP Chairman issues deadline for Corzine-Katz e-mail appeal

• Corzine settles with Katz relative for $362,500
• Corzine-Katz e-mail case argued in appeals court
• Appeals court hears arguments in Corzine-Katz e-mail case

• Corzine seeks to fast-track e-mail suit, despite ex's objections

• Corzine files appeal on e-mail ruling

• Corzine-Katz e-mail deadline nears

• Corzine-Katz e-mail case has cost state over $54,000 so far

• Corzine stays mum on details of Katz e-mail
• Legal saga of Jon Corzine and Carla Katz e-mails
RELATIONSHIP’S WAKE
While the e-mails were going back and forth, Katz maintained an apartment in the same Hoboken building that Corzine called home. On Feb. 18, 2007, she reminded the governor of that, saying she was available to get together on his schedule. Then, Katz related a bizarre tale of what had happened the night before. A male visitor had mistaken Corzine’s apartment for hers and rang the governor’s doorbell. "It was my new beau who was apparently having a freudian moment and went to your door instead of mine," she wrote. "Would have been interesting if you’d opened the door though!"
E-mails exchanged at the peak of the public controversy over Corzine’s history with Katz show the pair engaged in heated back-and-forth about the language they should use when describing their relationship in public. After having broken off their romance in 2004, Corzine told Katz in 2007 that he was consciously trying to downplay their continuing friendship.
"I was ttrying tonot usse the word romantic. That should have been obvios," he wrote on March 8, 2007. Less than five minutes later, he added: "I undwerstand angst but I am trying noyt to make news! Let’s try to calm this thing down."
Katz was not calm. Media scrutiny of her relationship with Corzine was intensifying after The Star-Ledger revealed on March 4 that the multimillionaire governor had given Katz far more in financial gifts than he previously disclosed.
At 8:05 p.m. that day, Katz sounded livid, sending Corzine a three-paragraph message that accused him of violating the terms of the deal they struck after breaking up. She said Corzine was hurting her children and implored him to consider people other than himself.
"We had a clear confidentiality agreement that youve now breached. Please stop. No more," Katz wrote. "As hard as it might be...you must say ‘some things are private’ … You have got to stop hurting me like this."
Katz grew furious over the way she had been described by the hosts and callers on New Jersey 101.5 FM radio.
"An you don’t understand my angst," she wrote at 2:53 p.m. on March 8. "You were not referred to as a SLUT-WHORE for hours at a time over the past three days."
Corzine, at 3:19 p.m., said he understood how she felt, in terms far out of character for a governor who was usually loath to display emotion or launch personal attacks in public.
"Those guys are scumam ihate what they say about you. Youa3e my friend but we need tocalm that down," he wrote.
Katz was growing angrier by the e-mail.
At 3:53 p.m., she again threw Corzine’s comments back at him — only this time she seized on the words Corzine used in The Star-Ledger to acknowledge he had given her financial gifts as they were breaking up in 2004.
In an interview, Corzine had said "If you were — I’m hypothesizing; I’m not stating anything — if you were going to pay a tuition bill or something over a period of time … you pre-funded it … I could have done that."
Katz wrote that the raging controversy was purely Corzine’s fault.
"I know you’ve rationalized this but I don’t believe we’d be in this firestorm if you hadn’t given hypotheticals on Friday and I still don’t understand it," she wrote. "And now you want to distance from me by saying that you’re not my friend? I’m being hammered everywhere...I’m fending for myself. And it really sucks."
Within a few days, Katz had calmed down, and her e-mails again fluctuated between playful and serious. She kept asking to see Corzine — for a drink or just a brief chat — and even dispatched his-and-hers horoscopes in separate e-mails on March 12.
By 5:21 p.m. March 15, she sent a note announcing that she had relaxed and was back in Hoboken with the hope that Corzine would see her and that the quiet time could give way to being "temporarily noisy." Ninety-three minutes later, she wrote: "Anybody there???... 9 p.m. drinks? 9:30? 10?" Six minutes after that, she wrote: "Tomorrow? Sat? Sunday? 2008? 2009? 2020?"
Corzine said he was tied up, first with official appearances and then visiting his adult children. He was suspicious about a lull in the controversy, and he encouraged Katz to relax and go to bed.
START OF THE SCRUTINY

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Former Gov. Jon Corzine and ex-girlfriend Carla Katz fought to keep their e-mails from public view. The Star-Ledger has obtained 123 e-mails.
The Corzine-Katz relationship had been a popular political sideshow in New Jersey from just about the minute Corzine announced in December 2004 he would be seeking the Democratic nomination for governor. As a separated and then divorced U.S. senator, Corzine had dated Katz for two years, ending in June 2004, without news coverage or controversy — mainly because the union local she led rarely if ever crossed paths with Corzine, who was focused on his position on Capitol Hill.
That stood to change if he were elected governor, and he was quickly confronted with questions about whether he would have a conflict of interest in dealing with the thousands of state workers represented by the CWA.
As Corzine campaigned, it was revealed that he had paid off a $470,000 mortgage Katz had on her Hunterdon County home. In 2007, Corzine acknowledged for the first time he had actually given Katz millions of dollars. Scrutiny of the two took on a more serious tone as the contract talks arrived at center stage in Trenton.
With reporters probing the relationship and with political opponents suggesting the negotiations were rigged, press strategy and media became a frequent topic of discussion between the two. They talked about individual reporters, and Katz implored Corzine and Shea to try to manage the reporters’ coverage.
She complained a number of times about 101.5, and Corzine told her on March 5: "Scum -- dont listen ifpossible."
Katz and Corzine both expressed their disdain for Deborah Howlett, a Star-Ledger reporter at the time. It was Howlett who first reported Corzine’s additional gifts to Katz.
Katz called Howlett a "bitch" on March 7, 2007. At 9 a.m. on March 21, Corzine said that when they had spoken the night before, he was out of sorts because he was tired, had attended a funeral, had conducted a 105-minute town hall meeting and "loking at DH too much makes me grumpy."
(Even so, Corzine would hire Howlett in February 2008 to be his communications director. Howlett now runs a liberal think tank in Trenton.)
Katz was also insistent that Corzine use his influence both with New Jersey leaders and union officials in Washington to help with their public relations. On March 16, she sent an e-mail to Corzine with the subject "Fix it right now." The message came with the CWA contract newly settled and with Katz opposing it even as most other CWA officials in New Jersey endorsed it.
Katz was facing a new controversy over the fact that five of seven CWA local presidents endorsed the contract and were charging that Katz’s relationship with Corzine had undermined the process.
Katz wanted Corzine to contact CWA president Larry Cohen to get him to vouch for the integrity of the process that produced the union contract and to reinforce that Katz was well within her rights to oppose it.
At 9:15 p.m. on March 26, 2007, Katz sent an e-mail to Corzine asking, "You around tonight?" It is the final message in the set. Katz, in the e-mail, called her fellow CWA local presidents "pigs" and insisted that the governor call them to get them to stop criticizing her and dredging up the Katz-Corzine romance in the press.
"Ti’d assumed you’d actually followed through. There is no luxury to wait because you are having fun. i am NOT having fun," she wrote. "These pigs are going to do more and worse ltomorrow) and you will be just as screwed as me. I asked you to do this since Saturday and you’ve just completely ignored me. You didn’t even return my e-mails or call me since Friday. Some ‘team’ effort."

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AuthorHost/IP:c-68-39-29-125.hsd1.nj.comcast.net Is Not the Biggest Jerkoff on These Message Forums


Thats right

The honor of biggest jerkoff goes to Proud
the supporter of no bid contracts the Lacey tc and BOE and the Freeloaders and Gov Cheesesteak who then voted for Mittens but then filed a Fema claim
what an asshole

hows the fema claim?
and the flood maps?
what a whiney cunt
Subject: AuthorHost/IP:c-68-39-29-125.hsd1.nj.comcast.net Is Not the Biggest Jerkoff on These Message Forums


Author:
You Betcha (but the dickhead is close)
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Re: For ALL You Whiney-ass Nerd Babies That Constantly Lie to Us and Tell Us That Republican Policies Are the Reason...
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Mar 3U.S. Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL)
Have You Ever Been Locked Inside Prison Cell......
((((((CUNT)))))) ...... That's What I Thought......
((((((CUNT)))))) ......

Come Talk To Me When You Get Finished SUCKING YOUR MOTHER"S TIT......
((((((CUNT)))))) ......

You Have NEVER BEEN TESTED......

I HAVE......

((((((CUNT)))))) ......

YOU ARE ((((((NOT)))))) ...... THE REAL THING......

I WANT YOU TO GO INTO YOUR MOTHER'S BEDROOM RIGHT NOW...... I COMMAND
YOU TO PUT ON YOUR MOTHER'S PANTIES...... ((((((CUNT)))))) ......

DON'T SPEAK TO ME LIKE THAT...... ((((((CUNT)))))) ...... YOU HAVE
NEVER BEEN TESTED...... I HAVE...... I AM STILL ALIVE TO TALK ABOUT
IT......

I...... DO...... NOT...... RESPECT...... YOU......

BECAUSE...... YOU...... ARE...... A...... ((((((CUNT))))))......

I EARNED MY STRIPES...... YOU ARE JUST A...... ((((((CUNT)))))) ......
WHO SITS IN HIS MOMMY'S BASEMENT...... FEARING THE WORLD......

MY FIST...... YOUR FACE...... ((((((CUNT))))))
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Mar 3Bill


Have you ever, just once in your life. stopped being an asshole?

Or is that how you live?
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Mar 3Bill
On Mar 3, 2:07 am, Flip Gordon <chaotica...@live.com> wrote:
> Have you ever, just once in your life. stopped being an asshole?
>
> Or is that how you live?

Hey, even though I'm an Atheist, these words ring true.

When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I
reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind
me.

You should consider it.
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Mar 3U.S. Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL)
RESPOND......

YOU......

((((((CUNT)))))) ......

LET'S HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY...... ((((((CUNT)))))) .......

I...... KNOW...... YOU...... HAVE...... NOT...... EVER......
BEEN...... LOCKED...... UP...... IN...... A...... PRISON......
CELL...... ((((((CUNT))))))......

YOU SPEAK LIKE A CUNT...... MY FIST...... YOUR FACE......
((((((CUNT))))))

YOU ARE A ...... PRETTY BOY...... COME INTO MY CELL...... PRETTY
BOY......

I WANT TO FEEL YOUR SOFT WET ASS...... PRETTY BOY......

Alley Cat...... Is...... A...... PRETTY BOY......

COME ON IN HERE...... PRETTY BOY......

I'LL TREAT YOU GOOD......

PRETTY BOY......

I WILL...... FUCK YOU...... IN...... THE...... ASS...... Alley
Cat......

YOU BETTER KEEP WALKING...... MOTHERFUCKER......

I FEEL LIKE A FIGHT......

GIVE IT UP......AlleyCat...... PRETTY BOY......

DON'T WORRY ABOUT THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS OVER THERE WHO WANT TO CUT OUT
YOUR EYES......

THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS...... FEAR...... ME......

AS LONG AS AlleyCat PUTS IT OUT...... AS LONG AS AlleyCat...... HOLDS
HIS SWEET YOUNG WET ASS UP AGAINST MY HARD COCK...... AS LONG AS
AlleyCat GIVES HIS SOFT WET ASS TO ME WITHOUT A FIGHT...... WHEN THE
LIGHTS GO OUT......

DON'T WORRY...... AlleyCat...... THOSE FUCKERS KNOW THEY GONNA GET
STABBED...... IF THEY FUCK WITH...... MY BITCH......

DON'T FUCK WITH weezer's BITCH...... I...... WILL...... FUCK......
YOU...... UP......

DON'T WORRY...... AlleyCat...... AS LONG AS MY COCK IS INSIDE YOUR
ASS......

YOU CAN WALK AROUND THE PRISON YARD WITH YOUR PINK ASS STICKING UP
HIGH......

BE PROUD...... AlleyCat...... YOU ARE...... weezer's BITCH...... YOU
ARE SAFE......

NOW GO MAKE ME SOME MONEY...... ((((((CUNT)))))) ......

GO FUCK THE PEOPLE WHO FEAR ME...... IF THEY FUCK UP YOUR FACE......

I......
DON 'T......
CARE......

I WILL THROW YOU AWAY...... LIKE TRASH......

I WILL...... ((((((KILL)))))) ...... THE BITCHES ...... WHO FUCKED UP
MY BITCH......

AFTER THAT...... I WILL FIND A NEW BITCH...... IN FIVE FUCKING
MINUTES......

I WILL FIND THE PRETTIEST BITCH IN THE PRISON...... THEN I WILL SLASH
THE CUNT WHO CONTROLS THAT BITCH...... NOW HE IS GONE...... NOW HIS
BITCH BELONGS TO ME......

IT DON'T MEAN MUCH TO YOU...... BECAUSE YOU ARE...... GONE...... YOU
ARE A PRETTY BOY CUNT...... AND NOW YOU ARE GONE......
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Mar 3State Rep. Mark Warden - (R-Manchester, NH)
YES...... I KNOW...... THIS LOOKS LIKE I AM GOING OFF ON
MYSELF......

TRUST ME...... A FEW HOURS AGO......

THERE WAS A DUDE...... WHO CAME IN HERE AND...... MOUTHED OFF TO
ME......

THEN HE USED SOME KIND OF SLICK POSTING THING......

TO DELETE HIS OWN POST A FEW HOURS AFTER HE PRESSED PLAY......

HE IS A PROUD CUNT...... HE IS SUCKING HIS MOTHER'S TIT WHILE I SIT
HERE AND LOOK LIKE A FOOL......

I WON...... HE LOST...... AND I AM THE ONE WHO LOOKS LIKE AN
IDIOT......

GOOD JOB...... CUNT......

YOU ARE A CUNT WITH NO SPINE......

YOU WILL NEVER ACCOMPISH ANYTHING IN LIFE......

YOU WILL SPEND THE REST OF YOUR LIFE TRYING TO BE A COOL CUNT BITCH
MOTHERFUCKER......

I AM PROUD OF YOU......

NOW...... CRAWL ALONG THE FLOOR FOR ME...... CUNT...... I DOMINATE
YOU...... THAT MEANS NOTHING TO YOU...... HOWEVER...... TO A MAN WHO
HAS HAD HIS BLOOD SHED AND SPREAD IN FRONT OF HIS OWN EYES WHILE HE
WATCHED IN FEAR...... ON THE PRISON WALLS...... YOU LOOK LIKE A SMALL
CUNT THAT IS UN-FIT FOR......

WHY AM I EVEN SPEAKING TO YOU?..... MY ENERGY WOULD BE BETTER SPENT
SPEAKING TO SOMEONE WHO HAS POTENTIAL...... YOU ARE A CUNT...... THAT
IS ALL YOU ASPIRE TO IN LIFE......

I AM NOT MUCH...... I AM A LOSER...... I AM A LOSER AND I KNOW
IT......

BUT...... I AM NOT A CUNT...... PEOPLE WHO SPENT ALL DAY LONG BY THE
WEIGHT PILE RESPECTED ME......

THAT WOULD NOT HAPPEN TO YOU...... YOU WOULD GET ......
((((((FUCKED)))))) LIKE THE BITCH THAT YOU ARE......

CHECK ME OUT...... RUN ME...... RUN ME THROUGH EVERY BULLSHIT CUNT
BACKGROUND CHECK THAT HAS EVER BEEN INVENTED......

I...... SPEAK...... TRUE......

RUN MY I.P......

FIND OUT WHO I AM,......

I SPEAK TRUE...... I DID THE TIME......

I CAME OUT THE OTHER END A PROUD MAN WHO COULD WALK AMONG OTHER MEN
WITH MY HEAD HELD HIGH......

CHECK IT OUT MOTHERFUCKER......

THEY KNOW ME...... THEY KNOW ME IN THE FEDERAL PRISON SYSTEM...... I
AM A MAN...... I WALKED LIKE A MAN IN THERE......

ASK THE PEOPLE WHO WERE IN THERE WITH ME......

ASK THE MUSLIMS...... THEY KNOW ME......

ASK THE WHITE SUPREMISTS...... CUNTS THAT THEY ARE...... THEY KNOW ME,
TOO......

WHEN YOU ARE READY TO FIGHT THE BITCHES THAT STOP YOU FROM FEEDING
YOUR FAMILY......

WHEN YOU GET HUNGRY......... LIKE ME.........

CALL ME...... YOU AL QAEDA BITCHES...... YOU KU KLUX KLAN KUNTS......

I HAVE HAD MANY ATTEMPTS ON MY LIFE...... INSIDE A PRISON CELL......
YOU CANNOT RUN AND HIDE IN THERE...... YOU MUST FACE YOUR ENEMY IN
THERE...... TWO MEN ENTER...... ONE MAN LEAVES...... I'M STILL
HERE...... I GUESS I WON...... I AM CRAZY AND I HAVE SCARS...... I CAN
SHOW THEM TO YOU...... CUNT...... I SURVIVED...... I CAME OUT THE
OTHER END ALIVE......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3DJhwAhrjY
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Mar 3State Rep. Mark Warden - (R-Manchester, NH)
I apologize to all the the people who read this thread......

And think I am a jerk...... I apologize to all the people...... Who
read this...... And Say To Themselves...... "WTF"......

DO...... NOT...... START A FIGHT WITH ME...... AND THEN RUN...... TO
YOUR MOMMY......

MY HEART IS IN THIS......

GODDAMNIT...... I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK......

I......... WILL......... GET......... PAID......... WHEN.........
I......... WORK.........

......... OR .........

I ......... WILL......... MAKE ......... A ......... BIG.........
FUCKING ......... THING......... OUT......... OF .........
IT .........

DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME?!?!?!?!? ......... MOTHERFUCKERS ......... WHEN I
SPEND ......... ALL GODDAMN DAY ......... WORKING FOR A
WEALTHY ......... MOTHERFUCKER ......... I ......... WILL .........
GET ......... PAID ......... FOR THE TIME I WORKED .........
OR ......... I ......... WILL .........

FUCK ......... YOU ......... UP .........

DO ...... YOU ...... HEAR ...... ME ...... WALMART .........
SEARS ......... FRYS ......... PIER 1 .........

IF AL-QAEDA...... EVER...... DECIDES TO ATTACK......... ANY OF THESE
CUNT COTTON PLANTATION MOTHERFUCKERS THAT I PERSONALLY HATE...... I
WILL HOLD THE DOOR OPEN FOR YOUR ATTACKERS...... DO YOU
UNDERSTAND????????? ......... I AM (((((((((NOT))))))))) ......... ON
YOUR SIDE......... WALMART IS MY BLOOD ENEMY ......... I WILL HELP
ATTACK WALMART......... BECAUSE WALMART DID NOT PAY ME ENOUGH TO LIVE
ON......,,, AND WHEN I SAY......... WALMART......... I AM TALKING
ABOUT......... ALL......... YOU EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS.........THAT DO NOT
WANT ME TO BE ABLE TO PUT A ROOF OVER MY OWN HEAD.........

PAY ME ENOUGH TO LIVE ON......... OR YOU WILL GET HIT.........

I HOPE I DO NOT GO TO PRISON......... AGAIN......... FOR THE SECOND
TIME......... FOR SAYING THIS.........

BUT......... IF I DO......... I WOULD RATHER WALK INTO PRISON LIKE A
MAN......... THAN CRAWL INTO POVERTY......... LIKE SOMEONE WHO DOES
NOT DESERVE TO LIVE IN MY COUNTRY.........

FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHTS......... LIKE A MAN......... OR CRAWL AROUND ON
THE FLOOR THAT THE BILLIONAIRES HAVE PREPARED FOR YOU......

SO......... ARE YOU A MAN?.....
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Mar 3Ron
On Mar 2, 11:33 pm, AlleyCat <al...@aohell.com> wrote:
> ... why we're in this mess:
>
> HISTORY LESSON ON SOCIAL SECURITY!!
> THE TRUE FACTS!
>
> Just in case some of you young whippersnappers (& some older ones)
Subject: Poud the hypocrite


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Curious George Bush (licked Gannons taint)
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must be on a road trip to Texas to fill our fema claims

you who Proud your boy MItt said Fema was immoral
hows your fema claim? did they raise your flood insurance? do you have a signed copy of the NEW Flood Maps from Gov Christie and Happy Gilmore
Property tax rates up under Gov Cheesesteak is that a tax

Republicons have tried to repeal Obamacare 37 times

Hey did Happy get a no bid contract for white out for the road permit?
Subject: Lets go to you tube


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Curious George Bush (I lied about WMDs)
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and watch Colin Powell being used as a stooge for Bush War in Iraq

Why was he not impeached and tried as a War Criminal

Proud
you whiney cunt

filed a fema claim didnt insure his shack looking for a hand out
cried about Christies flood maps voted for the fat slob who by the way has done nothing

enjoy the increase in flood insurance hey is that a tax lol what a douchebag hypocrite
Subject: Proudmusta been on vacation


Author:
Curious George Bush (likes balls on his chin)
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Bowler shoots himself at lanes in Florida, but is spared any charges
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The pistol-packing bowler accidentally shot himself just as he stepped up to the lane to bowl, witnesses reported.

A witness said that the bowler, who was not identified, apparently hit his back leg with the ball in his hand as he was swinging. Then, the bowler shoots himself as the gun is hit by the ball, which triggered the revolver to fire.

The bowler was taken to St. Mary’s Medical Center. The bowler sustained non-life-threatening gunshot injuries, Jupiter police spokesman officer Adam Brown said.

It’s not every day that a bowler shoots himself, so customers at the alley were understandably surprised and caught off guard. Some other bowlers said they originally thought a firecracker went off — not that a bowler shot himself.

No charges are expected to be filed in the bowler shoots himself case, police said. No other injuries were reported
Subject: Capitalism?


Author:
Barry Hussein Osama (has a shitty dick like wookie)
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THIS ONE IS FOR MAJORITY LEADER BOEHNER – IMPEACHMENT
Posted on May 13, 2013
8
of one Barack Hussein Obama MMM! MMM! MMM!

House Majority Leader John Boehner, knowing that you lack the balls to “GIT ER DONE!”, the Gunny has drafted Articles of Impeachment for one Barack Hussein Obama. Feel free to cut and paste this, add more charges to it, and serve it up so that justice can be done upon his ass and those who aided and abetted him.
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ARTICLE OF IMPEACHMENT OF PRESIDENT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

That Barack Hussein Obama, President of the United States, is impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors, and that the following article of impeachment to be exhibited to the Senate:

The Articles of Impeachment, voted on and passed by the House of Representatives, in the name of the People of the United States of America, against President Barack Hussein Obama, supports an impeachment of him for crimes and misdemeanors in his continued violations of the US Constitution, namely Article 1, Section 8, Clause 11.

THE IMPEACHMENT POWER: Article II, Section IV of the United States Constitution provides: “The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.”

RESOLVED: In his conduct during the General Motors (GM) bailout, Barack Hussein Obama did violate U.S. bankruptcy laws by voiding the contract and claims of GM bondholders.

RESOLVED: President Obama has violated the Constitution’s Takings and Due Process Clauses when he forced the secured creditors of Chrysler into accepting thirty cents on the Dollar even as the UAW and other groups, politically connected, received better deals. This violates his Oath of Office.

RESOLVED: He has usurped the power of the Congress to initiate war under Article I, section 8, clause 11 of the United States Constitution by unilaterally initiating a war against Libya on March 19, 2011. By declaring that Congress did not have the authority to restrain his conduct of the war and by claiming that he [Obama] had all of the authority to wage war unilaterally, in violation of the War Powers Act of 1973, to advance whatever he decides is in the interest of the Nation.

RESOLVED: The President of the United States, Barack Hussein Obama, has violated his constitutional oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, against all enemies, foreign and domestic, by ignoring threats against the United States and the citizens therein.

RESOLVED: The usage of the IRS to prosecute a covert war against non-profit groups is subversive of a constitutional government and is a violation of the guarantee of individual liberty as protected by the Constitution.

RESOLVED: President Obama has violated existing Federal laws by overseeing a cover-up called Operation Fast and Furious, which transferred automatic weapons to the Mexican drug cartels, at the cost of one dead American border agent (Brian Terry) and over 300 dead Mexican nationals.

RESOLVED: President Obama has aided and abetted America’s enemies, violating his oath, by sending weaponry and funding to insurgents in Syria, commanded by Al-Qaeda terrorists, inciting a civil war, which is a clear act of war on the part of the United States.

RESOLVED: He [President Obama] has clearly communicated his intent to destroy the Second Amendment rights of American citizens by pursuing executive orders to curtail the right to keep and bear arms, to enter into a UN Gun Ban treaty, and to work with anti Second Amendment groups, all without congressional authorization, and in violation of his oath of office. Obama: “I’m working on gun control under the radar.”

RESOLVED: President Obama lied to the American people about Libya first by claiming that there were no “boots on the ground,” and then admitting that there were no more than 500 American troops there, for logistic purposes, and then lied about a gun-running operation to Islamic operatives, which directly led to the deaths of four American citizens.

RESOLVED: He [Obama] has used United Nations Security Council authority, which is non-binding on the United States of America, “I don’t even have to get to the Constitutional question,” to go to war in Libya, thus voiding the exclusive authority of Congress to declare and wage war.

RESOLVED: He [Obama] accepted the position as Chairman of the United Nations Security Council, which is a direct violation of Article 1, Section 9, Clause 8 of the Constitution: “No title of nobility shall be granted by the United States; and no person holding any office of profit or trust under them, shall without consent of Congress accept of any present, emolument, office, or title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.”

RESOLVED: He [Obama] has ignored Congressional rejection of the cybersecurity bill and stated that he will pursue it through an unconstitutional Executive Order.

RESOLVED: He [Obama] has signed into law the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) which allows the abduction and military detention, without trial, of U.S. citizens, which violates Habeas Corpus and the Fourth Amendment. It must be noted that Obama specifically demanded these powers be included in the final NDAA bill.
Subject: Capitalism?


Author:
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And I thought republicons were in favor of less Govt and free market capitalism?
They are just jerkoffs


Auto dealers push law blocking Tesla sales in North Carolina
By Justin Hyde
Managing Editor, Yahoo! Autos

PostsWebsiteEmailBy Justin Hyde | Motoramic – 21 hours agoEmail 0Recommend0Tweet0Share0PrintTesla Motors has become the belle of Wall Street over the past week after revealing its first quarterly profit and receiving the top score ever from Consumer Reports for the Tesla Model S electric luxury sedan. But those accomplishments haven't played well yet in North Carolina, where the state Senate unanimously passed a bill Monday night that would block Tesla's plan for selling its cars directly to consumers — forcing it to either steer clear of the entire state or use a franchised auto dealer like all other automakers.


The Republican-sponsored bill, which has the backing of the North Carolina Auto Dealers Association, mirrors fights in several other states by dealers who worry about the precedent set by Tesla — even though Tesla's own projected output of 20,000 vehicles a year is a rounding error on the 15 million new vehicles sold by U.S. dealers annually. Dealers in New York and Massachusetts have gone to court in attempts to block Tesla; in Texas, the automaker has been pushing its own bill that would loosen restrictions which limit its sales pitches to phone conversations.

Dealers contend automakers, especially a start-up like Tesla, aren't inclined to handle warranty repairs, service and other tasks that customers need close to home. For its part, Tesla has been lobbying North Carolina lawmakers for an exemption by arguing that blocking the company's plans hurts the state economy; it says it has sold nearly 100 Model S cars to state residents with deposits for 60 more, and plans more service centers beyond the one opened in Raleigh.

What's noteworthy about the North Carolina bill is that in addition to stopping Tesla, it would force minor changes on the agreements dealers have with established automakers — including an odd proposal barring automakers from ordering dealers to remove sports memorabilia from their stores. (This may have something to do with NASCAR owners who run one model of car on Sundays but sell a variety of them through their name-brand dealership every other day of the week.) Automakers and dealers have fought for years in statehouses over who controls what, and in general, the dealers have held the upper hand. For Tesla, it's just another sign that Silicon Valley's only automaker has joined the major leagues
Subject: Heres why Gov Cheesesteak


Author:
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Claims of misuse of deferred prosecution agreements [edit]

Christie has been accused of using his office's role in crafting deferred prosecution agreements to award lucrative federal monitoring positions in no-bid contracts to friends, supporters, and allies.[34] Questions first arose after Christie awarded a multimillion-dollar no-bid contract to David Kelley, another former U.S. Attorney, who had investigated Christie's brother, Todd Christie, in a 2005 fraud case involving traders at the Wall Street firm, Spear, Leeds & Kellogg.[35][36] Kelley had declined to prosecute Todd Christie, who had been ranked fourth in the investigation—initiating a U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) complaint among twenty traders who earned the largest profits for their company at the expense of their customers. The top three were indicted, as were eleven other traders.[37]

Christie was similarly criticized for his 2007 recommendation of the appointment of The Ashcroft Group, a consulting firm owned by Christie's former superior, the former United States Attorney General John Ashcroft, as a monitor in a court settlement against Zimmer Holdings, an Indiana medical supplies company. The no-bid contract was worth between $28 million and $52 million.[38][39] Christie defended the decision, saying that Ashcroft's prominence and legal acumen made him a natural choice. Christie declined to intercede when Zimmer's company lawyers protested the Group's plans to charge a rate of $1.5 million to $2.9 million per month for the monitoring.[34][40] Shortly after the House Judiciary Committee began holding hearings on the matter, the Justice Department re-wrote the rules regarding the appointment of court monitors.[41]

Christie also faced criticism over the terms of a $311-million fraud settlement with Bristol-Myers Squibb. Christie's office deferred criminal prosecution of the pharmaceutical company in a deal that required it to dedicate $5 million for a business ethics chair at Seton Hall University School of Law, Christie's alma mater.[42][43] The U.S. Justice Department subsequently set guidelines forbidding such requirements as components of out-of-court corporate crime settlements.[44]

In June 2009, Christie was called before the House Judiciary Committee as part of its consideration of new regulations on deferred prosecution agreements. In his testimony, he defended his decisions to award no-bid, high-paying federal monitoring contracts to law firms that his critics say constitute a conflict of interest. Christie left the meeting after two and a half hours of questioning, against the requests of the Committee's chairman, stating that he had to attend to pressing business in New Jersey.[34][45]
Subject: looks like Gov Cheesesteak


Author:
Curious George Bush (takes it up the ass)
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never saw a no bid contract he didnt like
Subject: Try This Douchebag


Author:
Obama Laden (likes weenie)
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Sunday: U.S. Army soldiers patrol inside Pech Valley, Kunar province, in northeastern Afghanistan. Private consultants Checchi & Company won a no-bid contract from the Obama administration to 'train the next generation of legal professionals' in Afghanistan. (AP)


Despite President Obama's long history of criticizing the Bush administration for "sweetheart deals" with favored contractors, the Obama administration this month awarded a $25 million federal contract for work in Afghanistan to a company owned by a Democratic campaign contributor without entertaining competitive bids, Fox News has learned.
The contract, awarded on Jan. 4 to Checchi & Company Consulting, Inc., a Washington-based firm owned by economist and Democratic donor Vincent V. Checchi, will pay the firm $24,673,427 to provide "rule of law stabilization services" in war-torn Afghanistan.
A synopsis of the contract published on the USAID Web site says Checchi & Company will "train the next generation of legal professionals" throughout the Afghan provinces and thereby "develop the capacity of Afghanistan's justice system to be accessible, reliable, and fair."
The legality of the arrangement as a "sole source," or no-bid, contract was made possible by virtue of a waiver signed by the USAID administrator. "They cancelled the open bid on this when they came to power earlier this year," a source familiar with the federal contracting process told Fox News.
"That's kind of weird," said another source, who has worked on "rule of law" issues in both Afghanistan and Iraq, about the no-bid contract to Checchi & Company. "There's lots of companies and non-governmental organizations that do this sort of work."
"I think the administration should explain what the decision was based on, and why a no-bid contract was given in this case, particularly given that Mr. Obama came in on a pledge of 'no more no-bid contracts,'" said Melanie Sloan, executive director of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington.
"There's really no explanation of why they had to make an exception in this case. And based on the facts before us, it doesn't appear that there was a need for an exception. It's not as if this was something urgently needed today; they couldn't have taken the time to get the bids, and make sure that American people were getting the best value," she added.
Contacted by Fox News, Checchi confirmed that his company had indeed received the nearly $25 million contract but declined to say why it had been awarded on a no-bid basis, referring a reporter to USAID.
Asked if he or his firm had been aware that the contract was awarded without competitive bids, Checchi replied: "After it was awarded to us, sure. Before, we had no idea."
He declined to answer further questions, however, and again referred Fox News to USAID, saying: "I don't want to speak for the U.S. government."
Joseph A. Fredericks, director of public information at USAID, told Fox News the Checchi deal was actually a renewal of an existing contract, awarded in 2004 by the Bush administration after a competitive bid process. "As the incumbent," Fredericks wrote in an e-mail Monday, "Checchi was rewarded a renewed contract to allow for work on the ground to continue."
Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., the ranking Republican on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, said Fox News' reporting on the no-bid contract in this case "disturbed" him.
Issa has written to USAID Administrator Rajiv Shah requesting that the agency "produce all documents related to the Checchi contract" on or before Feb. 5. Citing the waiver that enabled USAID to award the contract on a no-bid basis, Issa noted that the exemption was intended to speed up the provision of services in a crisis environment.
Yet "on its face," wrote Issa to Shah, "the consulting contract awarded to Checchi to support the Afghan justice system does not appear to be so urgent or attendant to an immediate need so as to justify such a waiver."
Presented with Fredericks's explanation -- that the Checchi contract was extended, this time on a no-bid basis, in order to "allow for work on the ground to continue" -- Issa was undeterred in his determination to investigate the matter.
"It's hard to say that this organization (Checchi and Company) has done such a great job of bringing the justice system in Afghanistan up to snuff that they should somehow not have to go through a competitive bidding process," Issa said.
Likewise, Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., who chairs the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee's Subcommittee on Contracting Oversight, told Fox News she, too, is seeking answers about the Checchi contract. "Sen. McCaskill is actively looking into this situation," said Maria Speiser, a spokeswoman for the senator. "She has posed questions to USAID about the situation and is pursuing full answers. If she doesn't get answers, she'll be ready to take action."
Corporate rivals of Checchi were reluctant to speak on the record about the no-bid contract awarded to his firm because they feared possible retribution by the Obama administration in the awarding of future contracts.
"We don't want to be blackballed," said the managing partner of a consulting firm that has won similar contracts. "You've got to be careful. We're dealing here with people and offices that we depend on for our business."
Still, the rival executive confirmed that open bidding on USAID's lucrative Afghanistan "rule of law" contract was abruptly revoked by the agency earlier this year.
"It's a mystery to us," the managing partner said. "We were going to bid on it. The solicitation (for bids) got pulled back, and we do not know why. We may never know why. These are things that we, as companies doing business with the government, have to put up with."
As a candidate for president in 2008, then-Sen. Obama frequently derided the Bush administration for the awarding of federal contracts without competitive bidding.
"I will finally end the abuse of no-bid contracts once and for all," the senator told a Grand Rapids audience on Oct. 2. "The days of sweetheart deals for Halliburton and the like will be over when I'm in the White House."
Those remarks echoed an earlier occasion, during a candidates' debate in Austin, Texas on Feb. 21, when Mr. Obama vowed to upgrade the government's online databases listing federal contracts.
"If (the American people) see a bridge to nowhere being built, they know where it's going and who sponsored it," he said to audience laughter, "and if they see a no-bid contract going to Halliburton, they can check that out too."
Less than two months after he was sworn into office, President Obama signed a memorandum that he claimed would "dramatically reform the way we do business on contracts across the entire government."
Flanked by aides and lawmakers at the Dwight D. Eisenhower Executive Office Building on March 4, Obama vowed to "end unnecessary no-bid and cost-plus contracts," adding: "In some cases, contracts are awarded without competition....And that's completely unacceptable."
The March 4 memorandum directed the Office of Management and Budget to "maximize the use of full and open competition" in the awarding of federal contracts.
Federal campaign records show Checchi has been a frequent contributor to liberal and Democratic causes and candidates in recent years, including to Obama's presidential campaign.
The records show Checchi has given at least $4,400 to Obama dating back to March 2007, close to the maximum amount allowed. The contractor has also made donations to various arms of the Democratic National Committee, to liberal activist groups like MoveOn.org and ActBlue, and to other party politicians like Sen. John F. Kerry, former presidential candidate John Edwards and former Connecticut Senate candidate Ned Lamont.
Sources confirmed to Fox News that Checchi & Company is but one of a number of private firms capable of performing the work in Afghanistan for which USAID retained it.
For example, DPK Consulting, based in San Francisco and with offices in Washington, D.C. and elsewhere, states on its website that it has contracted with USAID and other federal agencies on more than 600 projects involving "governance and institutional development" across five continents.
Among DPK's most recent projects are the establishment of a new public prosecutor's office in Jenin, in the troubled West Bank area of the Palestinian Authority, and the improvement of court facilities in the Kyrgyz Republic in Central Asia. Similarly, BlueLaw International, based in Virginia, was awarded a $100 million contract by the State Department in April 2008 to strengthen the "rule of law" in Iraq.
Although Obama suggested in his remarks on March 4 that he hoped particularly to address problems associated with defense contracting, an Associated Press analysis last July found that the Defense Department frequently awards no-bid contracts under the aegis of the $787 billion stimulus program, and often at higher expense to U.S. taxpayers.
According to The AP, more than $242 million in federal contracts, or roughly a quarter of the Pentagon's contract stimulus spending, was awarded through no-bid contracts. And while procurement officers say competitive bidding can actually cost the taxpayers more -- because it involves delays and can thereby subject pricing for services and equipment to inflation -- the AP analysis found that defense-related stimulus contracts awarded after competitive bidding saved the Pentagon $34 million, compared with $4.4 million when no bidding was involved.
Figures kept by OMB Watch, a non-profit research and advocacy group that tracks federal spending, show that no-bid contracts have been common under administrations controlled by both parties.
During fiscal years 2000 and 2001, for example, when Bill Clinton was president, as much as $139.2 billion in federal contracts was awarded without competitive bidding. The OMB Watch figures show that the practice appears to have accelerated sharply during the Bush administration, but the figures are not adjusted for inflation.
Click here to read the contract award.
Click here to read Rep. Issa's letter to USAID.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/01/25/obama-administration-steers-lucrative-bid-contract-afghan-work-dem-donor/#ixzz2TMCIvJ00
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now this

Report: Net Property Tax Increase Much Higher Under Christie Than Corzine

Christie rebate cuts cause 22.4 percent increase in net property taxes that hits those making under $150,000

you betcha

Did the Tc Boe and the Freeloaders all republicon led raise taxes again this yr on average 420 dollars? Yep
Is 71 Million a yr for 4600 kids worth it as LHTS ranking is heading where George Bush found God in the bottom of a toilet? you betcha

Is Proud a hypocrite for filing a fema claim? you betcha
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JON CORZINGED (Dumbocrat hit the sheets with sultry union babe---with pics)
NY POST ^ | August 5, 2005 | DEBORAH ORIN and IAN BISHOP, with Angelina Cappiello
Posted on August 5, 2005, 5:44:56 AM EDT by Liz

The NJ governor's race exploded into a firestorm yesterday, with the revelation that super-rich Sen. Jon Corzine gave $470,000 to a former flame who runs one of the biggest state-employee unions.

The value of the donation ballooned to as much as $615,600, because Corzine also paid the gift tax.

The Democrat stonewalled questions about whether he gave any other money to sultry Carla Katz, who represents 9,000 NJ state employees as head of Local 1034 of the Communications Workers of America.

Corzine refused to say if he made any other gifts to Katz and her family, declaring, "I'm a public official but I also have a private life."

But Larry Noble of the Center for Responsive Politics said, "As a political matter . . . I think he has to answer whether there is an ongoing financial relationship. The voters are going to want to know."

NJ Republican Chairman Tom Wilson called it "déjŕ vu all over again" and evoked memories of the sleaze that led former Gov. Jim McGreevey to resign after putting a man with whom he'd had an affair into a sensitive job.

"She's not somebody who owns a widget company in Secaucus. She's the president of the largest bargaining unit for state employees"..........

Corzine is the richest US senator......worth at least the $261 million he made as Goldman Sachs CEO. John Kerry is a billionaire through his wife.

On Dec. 18, 2002, Corzine granted a $470,000 loan to Katz through a company he controls so she could buy her Bloomsbury, NJ home from her ex-husband, according to documents uncovered by The Star-Ledger and NY Times.

The relationship ended in July 2004 and Corzine turned the loan into a gift on Dec. 9 — one week after he launched his campaign for governor.

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On Dec. 18, 2002, Corzine granted a $470,000 loan to Katz through a company he controls so she could buy her Bloomsbury, N.J., home from her ex-husband, according to documents uncovered by The Star-Ledger and New York Times.
Yeah, but did the bimbo pay taxes on the "gift"?

Corzine met Katz in 1999 when he was campaigning for his 2000 U.S. Senate run.

He split from his wife of 33 years in 2002, and their divorce became final in late 2003.



So Carla Katz is the hot pastrami Jon cut the mustard with that put the kibosh to his marriage.

Snort. Jon-Boy wouldn't be in a dilly of a deli if he'd had enough sense to hold the pickle (poster laughs uproariously).

1 posted on August 5, 2005, 5:44:57 AM EDT by Liz
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a dilly of a deli
Your alliteration is inspiring, Liz!

2 posted on August 5, 2005, 5:46:51 AM EDT by JennysCool (Non-Y2K-Compliant)
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To: Liz
Amazing the things that happen when men can't keep it in their pants. I guess money can get you the babes, but it can't get you brains.


3 posted on August 5, 2005, 5:49:57 AM EDT by JRios1968 (Will work for a tagline.)
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To: JennysCool
Thanks, Jen.


Corzine musta got drenched when he tossed that hot potato salad.


4 posted on August 5, 2005, 5:51:03 AM EDT by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: Liz
I relish your rye sense of humor.


5 posted on August 5, 2005, 5:51:59 AM EDT by lunatic12
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To: Liz
He looks old enough to be her father.


6 posted on August 5, 2005, 5:52:57 AM EDT by Rebelbase (Mexico, the 51st state.)
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To: Liz
Typical of those rich, elitist Republican plutocrats.


7 posted on August 5, 2005, 5:53:05 AM EDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: Rebelbase
Try grandfather.


8 posted on August 5, 2005, 5:53:57 AM EDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: JRios1968
Now, now let's not be unreasonable----Corzine was just affirming his union affiliation----to show the bimbo he was labor-intensive (snicker).


9 posted on August 5, 2005, 5:54:06 AM EDT by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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" On Dec. 18, 2002, Corzine granted a $470,000 loan to Katz through a company he controls so she could buy her Bloomsbury, N.J., home from her ex-husband"

Wasn't that loan forgiven, yet she's still servicing it?


10 posted on August 5, 2005, 5:54:08 AM EDT by Rebelbase (Mexico, the 51st state.)
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To: Liz
hey that was his money....just think what he will do with the taxpayers $$!


11 posted on August 5, 2005, 5:55:57 AM EDT by Sub-Driver (Unelect All NJ Politicians....)
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To: Liz
This will go nowhere. Remember McGreevey's ratings went UP when the skeletons came prancing out of HIS closet.


12 posted on August 5, 2005, 5:57:09 AM EDT by Ranald S. MacKenzie (Its the philosophy, stupid.)
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To: CasearianDaoist
Except that Bubba Corzine is a DimocRAT.


13 posted on August 5, 2005, 5:57:21 AM EDT by JRios1968 (Will work for a tagline.)
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yet she's still servicing it?
Depends on the meaning of "it."

14 posted on August 5, 2005, 5:57:22 AM EDT by leadpenny
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To: Liz
I wonder if he looked for the Union label?


15 posted on August 5, 2005, 5:57:55 AM EDT by JRios1968 (Will work for a tagline.)
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To: Liz
Is there an incongruity at work here somehow? Let us see...
While busily, and presumably happily, schtupping Carla, he loans her money, said loan secured by the mortage on the property. AFTER the schtupping ceases, THEN he gives her money, AND pays the tax on the gift? Now what does this sound like to you, boys and girls? A pay-off?

BTW.... when was Corzine separated from his wife..I think it was in 2003..surely some intrepid reporter has matched the dates by now...ergo, Johnny was a baaad, baaad boy..and look for his wife to now reopen the settlement...Carla may well turn out to be one of the more expensive 46 year old pieces of ass on the planet..

16 posted on August 5, 2005, 5:58:48 AM EDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: Liz
Dang, Liz, your headline was a little misleading!


17 posted on August 5, 2005, 5:58:53 AM EDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: lunatic12
Hot-diggety-dog----I love to be slathered with compliments.

Man, I'm on a roll (smirk).


18 posted on August 5, 2005, 5:59:00 AM EDT by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: Liz
Maybe he loves her for her intelligence. (snicker)
19 posted on August 5, 2005, 6:00:03 AM EDT by kb2614 ("Speaking Truth to Power" - What idiots say when they want to sound profound!!)
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To: snarks_when_bored
Geez, we can't release the pics of JonBoy and Katz cavorting in the sack on pink satin sheets just yet---we're waiting until the election gets into gear after Labor Day. Have patience will you?


20 posted on August 5, 2005, 6:02:25 AM EDT by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: Liz
He split from his wife of 33 years in 2002, and their divorce became final in late 2003.
These people never cease to amaze me. Spend 33+ years in a relationship and then toss it onto the trash-heap? WTF? Anywho, how ya been Liz?

J

21 posted on August 5, 2005, 6:04:28 AM EDT by J. L. Chamberlain II
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To: JRios1968

ROTFLOL........great zinger.


Hey, maybe the bimbo is so loyal she had the union label tatooed where the sun don't shine.


22 posted on August 5, 2005, 6:07:14 AM EDT by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: ken5050
......look for his wife to now reopen the settlement----Carla may well turn out to be one of the more expensive 46 year old pieces of a** on the planet......
ROTFLOL.......that I'd like to see----the wife reopening the settlement.

23 posted on August 5, 2005, 6:11:08 AM EDT by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: Liz
Geez, we can't release the pics of JonBoy and Katz cavorting in the sack on pink satin sheets just yet---we're waiting until the election gets into gear after Labor Day. Have patience will you?
Okay, okay...just be sure to pixelate Corzine when you release 'em!

24 posted on August 5, 2005, 6:12:42 AM EDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: Liz
$470,000 for a whore? That must be one hell of a whore! Incidentally, does anyone else smell extortion here?


25 posted on August 5, 2005, 6:13:35 AM EDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Liz
The price of booty has gone up, I guess. I recall when Nelson Rockefeller had his litttle death problem. I recall a number somewhere around 45k.


26 posted on August 5, 2005, 6:14:31 AM EDT by Glenn (What I've dared, I've willed; and what I've willed, I'll do!)
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To: Liz
Geeze, Johnny sure is cheesing in that pic.
Reminds me of Austin Powers.

Do I make you horny ? Grrr...

27 posted on August 5, 2005, 6:15:29 AM EDT by csvset
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To: Liz
CORZINE = the bad medicine from NJ!

He is only another revolving door Democrap to bring disgrace on those involved in public service!
28 posted on August 5, 2005, 6:18:53 AM EDT by leprechaun9
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To: Glenn
Meghan Marshak bump.....


29 posted on August 5, 2005, 6:21:53 AM EDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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.......does anyone else smell extortion here?.......
We can only ponder how Carla snookered JonBoy into giving her the "loan."

Probably like a scene out of Basic Instinct-----she gave Jon a few peeks then just when Jonny-come-lately was chomping at the, ah, bit she said, "By the way, Jonny, if you put up a few bucks, I'll put out."

30 posted on August 5, 2005, 6:23:46 AM EDT by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: Liz
“There is something fundamentally wrong when a key litigant vacations with a justice who is about to rule on his case. It's even more troubling when their trip is funded by an oil company that has a direct interest in the case," said Corzine. “Unfortunately, this reflects the Administration's long-standing pattern of improper influence and special favors for special interests. President Bush needs to establish clear rules to prevent this type of conduct from ever occurring again. I also hope that Justice Scalia will reconsider his decision to not recuse himself. There should be no doubt about the Court's objectivity and impartiality.”- JonCorzine, January 17, 2004
From :

CORZINE: CHENEY-SCALIA DUCKHUNTING TRIP REFLECTS PATTERN OF SPECIAL INTEREST INFLUENCE Says Bush should set rules prohibiting such conduct and Scalia should reconsider recusal

http://www.politicsnj.com/corzine011704.htm

31 posted on August 5, 2005, 6:24:03 AM EDT by LRS
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Probably like a scene out of Basic Instinct-----she gave Jon a few peeks then just when Jonny-come-lately was chomping at the, ah, bit she said, "By the way, Jonny, if you put up a few bucks, I'll put out."
True, but if I read the article correctly, the loan became a gift only after the "relationship" broke up. And since we have the unions lurking about in the shadows, can we also be so bold as to suspect organized crime involvement?

32 posted on August 5, 2005, 6:28:55 AM EDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Liz
if he's so easily snookered, does he belong in a leadership position??? and, by the way, why is it that these Dems have no concept of what conflict of interest is????he should be toast now - would be if he were a Repub - and yet his ratings will skyrocket in the corrupt state of NJ.


33 posted on August 5, 2005, 6:31:07 AM EDT by avital2
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To: Liz
You are sharp this morning.

Good job!


34 posted on August 5, 2005, 6:31:31 AM EDT by SeeRushToldU_So (It is hotter than two rats screwing in a wool sock in GA.)
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To: Liz
A classic case of the little head overpowering the big head.


35 posted on August 5, 2005, 6:32:03 AM EDT by jslade ("If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried."(Seminole Cty, FL))
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.....if I read the article correctly, the loan became a gift only after the "relationship" broke up.....
Oh please.......you really believe that trumped-up story? Clearly, JonBoy and the bimbo conspired to put together a pat story that dumb voters would buy, then colluded to get the story straight when they knew it was going to hit the media.

36 posted on August 5, 2005, 6:37:52 AM EDT by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: Glenn
The price of booty has gone up, I guess. I recall when Nelson Rockefeller had his litttle death problem. I recall a number somewhere around 45k.
When it comes to overpaying for booty, nobody knows better than Tuh-RAY-zuh.

37 posted on August 5, 2005, 6:39:20 AM EDT by Night Hides Not (The only NOC list containing the name of Valerie Plame was stolen by Ethan Hunt.)
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To: Liz
This story (with picture) also splashed across the front page of the New Jersey paper this morning

http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/frontpage


38 posted on August 5, 2005, 6:43:14 AM EDT by freeperfromnj
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To: Glenn

Hey, gotta account for "inflation" (fiscal type).


39 posted on August 5, 2005, 6:50:10 AM EDT by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: freeperfromnj
Thanks for the link.


40 posted on August 5, 2005, 6:51:03 AM EDT by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: Liz
Corzine isn't qulified to run for NJ Gov. No--Instead he shopuld be the the RAT party standard bearer and run for Pres.

He has all he needs for the job as established by Carvile and Begala--in the post Clinton era Democratic party.

His bimbo is even better looking that Bubba's. Although he did give a a gift worth a but more than a Martha Vineyard's bookstore poetry book.


41 posted on August 5, 2005, 6:52:07 AM EDT by rod1
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I just KNEW you would go there! I have been waiting! :-P


42 posted on August 5, 2005, 6:54:13 AM EDT by JRios1968 (Will work for a tagline.)
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To: Rebelbase
Wasn't that loan forgiven, yet she's still servicing it?
One taste, and now she's a glutton for punishment (snicker).

43 posted on August 5, 2005, 6:54:25 AM EDT by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: Liz
Clearly, JonBoy and the bimbo conspired to put together a pat story that dumb voters would buy, then colluded to get the story straight when they knew it was going to hit the media.
Could be, but I have a hard time believing that someone like Corzine would blow that much money on a slut. I know that some men are stupid enough to pay hundreds of thousands of bucks for a piece of ass (Clinton comes to mind), but at Corzine's age there should be a recognizable history of that kind of thing. Is there?

44 posted on August 5, 2005, 6:55:23 AM EDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: JRios1968
I try not to disappoint.


45 posted on August 5, 2005, 6:56:50 AM EDT by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: Liz
You do well, Grasshopper.


46 posted on August 5, 2005, 7:00:54 AM EDT by JRios1968 (Will work for a tagline.)
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To: Liz
If New Jersey ever switches to a Flat tax she'll have to declare her chest. (poster yells "bada bing!!")


47 posted on August 5, 2005, 7:01:15 AM EDT by DainBramage
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
......I have a hard time believing that someone like Corzine would blow that much money on a slut. I know that some men are stupid enough to pay hundreds of thousands of bucks for a piece of a** (Clinton comes to mind), but at Corzine's age there should be a recognizable history of that kind of thing. Is there?.....
Lookit, JonBoy was married for 33 years.

He was lucky if his wife let him in their bedroom to get his underwear out of the dresser drawer.

He tried to hold out, but his level of resistance disintegrated when Carla sent him an invite to a union function,



48 posted on August 5, 2005, 7:03:30 AM EDT by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: Liz
corzine is to his $470,000 whore like mcgreevy was to his little sailor boy
these two clowns make the torch look half respectable


49 posted on August 5, 2005, 7:05:00 AM EDT by JohnLongIsland
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To: Liz
I always knew that the Dems were in bed with Union leadership.........but this is ridiculous.


50 posted on August 5, 2005, 7:05:39 AM EDT by RightOnline
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Report: Net Property Tax Increase Much Higher Under Christie Than Corzine

Christie rebate cuts cause 22.4 percent increase in net property taxes that hits those making under $150,000

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Subject: Dear Jon Corzine Couldn't See the Nose In Front of His Face


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TRENTON, N.J. � New Jersey is drawing the line when it comes to bikini waxing. The state Board of Cosmetology and Hairstyling is moving toward a ban on genital waxing after two women reported being injured in their quest for a smooth bikini line.

Both women were hospitalized for infections following so-called "Brazilian" bikini waxes; one of the women has filed a lawsuit, according to Jeff Lamm, a spokesman for New Jersey's Division of Consumer Affairs, which oversees the cosmetology board.

Technically, genital waxing has never been allowed _ only the face, neck, abdomen, legs and arms are permitted _ but because bare-it-all "Brazilians" weren't specifically banned, state regulators haven't enforced the law.

"The genital area is not part of the abdomen or legs as some might assume," Lamm said.

Officials with the National Cosmetology Association and National-Interstate Council of State Boards of Cosmetology said they were unaware of another state that has banned genital waxing.

Regular bikini waxes would still be allowed.

Genital waxing can be dangerous in that the hot wax can irritate or tear delicate skin in the bikini area, resulting in infections, ingrown hairs and rashes, according to skin care experts.

Despite such risks, millions of American women _ and some men _ choose to have the hair down there ripped away, and a majority of salons in New Jersey offer the procedure for between $50 to $60.

The state Board of Cosmetology meets next on April 14 and will decide whether to move forward with banning the procedure, made popular in Brazil to accommodate skimpy thong bikinis.

The earliest the ban could take effect would be sometime in May, Lamm said, and salons that continue to perform it could be fined.

For salon owners, discontinuing the popular service could mean a substantial drop in business, especially as summer swimsuit season nears.

Spa owner Linda Orsuto, who owns 800 West Salon & Spa in Cherry Hill, estimates that most of 1,800 bikini waxes performed at her business last year were Brazilian-style.

"It's huge," she said, adding that her customers don't think their bikini lines are anyone's business but their own. "It's just not right."

She said many customers would likely travel across state lines to get it and some might even try to wax themselves.
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Subject: Proud


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Is this a tax?

Report: Net Property Tax Increase Much Higher Under Christie Than Corzine

Christie rebate cuts cause 22.4 percent increase in net property taxes that hits those making under $150,000

you betcha

Did the Tc Boe and the Freeloaders all republicon led raise taxes again this yr on average 420 dollars? Yep
Is 71 Million a yr for 4600 kids worth it as LHTS ranking is heading where George Bush found God in the bottom of a toilet? you betcha

Is Proud a hypocrite for filing a fema claim? you betcha
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Limitations on erectile dysfunction drugs and the removal of pubic hair are reminiscent of the Florio administration, which sought a sales tax on toilet paper and sought to regulate runny eggs. The state Department of Health had required restaurants to cook eggs in their entirety to 140 degrees in an effort to stop the spread of salmonella. Gov. Jim Florio dropped both proposals without haste.

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Report: Net Property Tax Increase Much Higher Under Christie Than Corzine

Christie rebate cuts cause 22.4 percent increase in net property taxes that hits those making under $150,000



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Subject: Bring Back Jon and Cronies good Idea


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Jon Corzine and other cronies that got away in 2012

By Peter Schweizer December 12, 2012


When businesses and big government politicians go into “business” with one another, taxpayers lose—big time. It's called cronyism.

A "crony" is an individual or organization that colludes with politicians to gain unfair treatment, taxpyer-funded benefits, or regulations that the rest of us don't enjoy. Cronyism occurs because politicians rely on wealthy interests to fund their campaigns, and those donors then seek government goodies or favors in return.

It’s a match made in heaven for cronies and hell for taxpayers. Just as bad, such cronyism erodes economic freedom by destroying the real competition that fuels free market capitalism.

In 2012, the cronies had a banner year, poaching billions of taxpayer dollars to pump up their profits and redistribute their losses.

In 2012, the cronies had a banner year, poaching billions of taxpayer dollars to pump up their profits and redistribute their losses. In other instances, the cronies leveraged their insider connections to evade prosecutions and skirt the laws that apply to the rest of us. Consider just a few of the cronies that got away in 2012.

1. Jon Corzine, former MF Global Chief, New Jersey Governor, and Top Obama Bundler.



The collapse of the now defunct MF Global vaporized $1.6 billion in investor’s money, according to James W. Giddens,trustee for the SIPA Liquidation of MF Global Inc. Even Democrats said “people should go to jail.” But disgraced former MF Global Chief Jon Corzine shrugged off charges of wrongdoing and appears to have gotten off with nary a consequence. How? Cronyism, pure and simple.

Corzine was a top Obama bundler who helped haul in $500,000 in campaign donations for the 2012 presidential election. And, as the Government Accountability Institute uncovered, MF Global was a client of Attorney General Eric Holder and Assistant Attorney General Lanny Breuer’s law firm, Covington & Burling.

That’s right—Corzine’s company hired the very law firm Eric Holder and Lanny Breuer hail from.

There’s more.

The attorney representing MF Global Treasurer Edith O’Brien is Reid Weingarten. Who is he? Eric Holder’s “best friend” and own personal attorney. Reid Weingarten and Eric Holder also co-founded a non-profit together.

The result: Corzine’s insider connections and big money political fundraising for Obama helped him skate away unscathed, even as his MF Global customers saw $1.6 billion of their money go up in flames.

2. Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.)

For Senator Harry Reid (D-Nev.), politics is a family business. And when it comes to doling out the federal goodies to favored friends, few can compete with the Nevada senator. Sen. Reid has sponsored at least $47 million in earmarks that directly benefitted organizations that one of his sons, Key Reid, [RW1] either lobbies for or is affiliated with.

Recently, another of Sen. Reid’s sons, Rory Reid, helped Chinese energy giant ENN Energy Group make headway on its plan to build a $5 billion by Text-Enhance">solar panel plant on a 9,000 acre plot in Nevada. And according to Reuters, this year Sen. Reid attempted to “pressure Nevada’s largest power company, NV Energy, to sign up as ENN’s first customer.”

Not surprisingly, both father and son deny that they are working in tandem to further the family interests. “I have never discussed the project with my father or his staff,” says Rory Reid. Likewise, Sen. Reid’s spokesperson says he never talks to his son about the $5 billion deal he’s working on for his Chinese client.

3. Congress

Last year the U.S. Congress overwhelmingly passed the Stop Trading On Congressional Knowledge (STOCK) Act to ban members of Congress from using non-public information when making their personal investments. The law also requires senior-level employees in executive and legislative offices to post their financial disclosures to ensure greater transparency, boost public trust, and make sure that politicos live by the same kinds of insider trading laws as the rest of us.

Common sense, right?

Wrong, says Congress. Since the bill became law, the U.S. Congress has delayed the financial disclosure requirement for federal workers not once, not twice, but thrice.

Why all the delays on implementing a common sense ethics law? Congress is worried that making such information public may place federal workers at risk for identity theft and endanger their personal safety. Scary stuff.

There’s just one problem with that argument: financial disclosures are already public records; the new requirement would simply make them more easily accessible to the public. Still, Congress continues to drag its feet on implementing an ethics law designed to make sure cronies aren’t abusing their positions of power for personal financial gain.

The rationale for the new delay was to wait until a study by the National Academy of Public Administration is released in March. That’s just another dilatory tactic. Indeed, after the first delay, Rep. Jim Moran (D-Va.) said he hoped the study would kill the law’s public disclosure provision for federal workers. “I am confident that the National Academy study will show that this policy is unnecessary and potentially very harmful,” said Rep. Moran.

Cronyism is a bipartisan problem. When politicians and special interests collude to disrupt free markets, hook up family and friends with special deals, and leverage political connections, taxpayers lose. Yes, 2012 was a banner year for the cronies. Here’s hoping 2013 will be different.

Peter Schweizer is the president of the Government Accountability Institute. He is a research fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford, and is the author of more than a dozen books, most recently the New York Times bestseller "Throw Them All Out: How Politicians and Their Friends Get Rich Off Insider Stock Tips, Land Deals, and Cronyism That Would Send the Rest of us to Prison."
Subject: Bring back Jon


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Report: Net Property Tax Increase Much Higher Under Christie Than Corzine

Christie rebate cuts cause 22.4 percent increase in net property taxes that hits those making under $150,000


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Net property taxes in New Jersey rose 22.4 percent in Gov. Chris Christie's first three years in office, compared to just 6 percent in Democratic Gov. Jon Corzine's last three years in office, a New Jersey Spotlight analysis shows.

Christie, who has made attacks on “Corzine Democrats” a centerpiece of his reelection campaign, has been touting his record of holding down overall property tax increases. But when Christie’s rebate reductions are factored in, his property tax record is not so clear-cut.

While Corzine doubled average property tax rebates from 2006 to 2009 and provided rebates to families earning as much as $250,000, Christie sharply cut the size of rebate payments and limited eligibility for non-seniors to those earning $75,000 or less.

As a result, average net property taxes -- the actual cost of property taxes for the average New Jerseyan after rebates are deducted -- rose from $6,244 in 2009, Corzine's last year in office, to $7,645 in 2012, Christie's third year in office, state Department of Community Affairs data shows.

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Subject: It's Called Fucking Your Way to The Top on the Taxpayer Dime


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Subject: It's Called Fucking Your Way to The Top on the Taxpayer Dime


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Former N.J. Gov. Jon Corzine, Carla Katz's forbidden e-mails are revealed
Published: Sunday, August 01, 2010, 7:00 AM Updated: Sunday, August 01, 2010, 7:23 AM
Josh Margolin/Statehouse Bureau By Josh Margolin/Statehouse Bureau
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They are the most fiercely protected secrets of the Jon Corzine years: the contents of e-mails between the former governor and Carla Katz, his ex-girlfriend and a powerful union leader.

Corzine carried on a two-year legal battle to keep them private, going all the way to the state Supreme Court, where his refusal to release the correspondence was upheld on the grounds of executive privilege.

Last month, The Star-Ledger obtained copies of 123 e-mails between the two and verified their authenticity independently. The newspaper can now reveal at least part of what the governor spent $127,000 of taxpayer funds to keep secret.

From Jan. 25, 2007, through March 26, 2007, while both were involved in heated negotiations over a new state workers contract, Corzine and Katz exchanged scores of e-mails. Of those the newspaper obtained, she sent 100, he sent 23.

They are by turns salacious, playful, plaintive, even angry. And they include clear discussions of state business.

The e-mails appear to support Corzine’s contention that no direct negotiations took place between him and Katz. But they contradict Corzine’s claim at the time that his interaction with Katz was no different from the way he dealt with any other top labor leaders in the state.

Corzine’s lawyer issued a statement Friday saying some of the e-mails obtained by The Star-Ledger were personal, and he criticized the newspaper’s decision to publish them.

"Many of the e-mails obtained by The Star-Ledger were not the subject of the Wilson litigation," Marc Elias said in the statement, referring to a 2007 lawsuit filed by then-Republican state committee chairman Tom Wilson seeking the e-mails. "Those that were confirm what Jon Corzine has repeatedly said: He defended the case in order to vindicate the rights and privileges of future governors."

Katz, who led the Communications Workers of America’s large Local 1034 until two years ago, declined to comment.

Corzine is now 63 and running an international finance firm called MF Global, based in New York. Katz is 51 and an attorney representing, among others, a firefighters union.
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• Main story: Former N.J. Gov. Jon Corzine, Carla Katz's forbidden e-mails are revealed

• Full text of the 123 e-mails
- Chapter 1: Intro, 'Feeling Down'
- Chapter 2: Humor, getting personal
- Chapter 3: Contract issues
- Chapter 4: Silent treatment, union officials
- Chapter 5: Anger and shock
- Chapter 6: Feeling dubious
- Chapter 7: Statement sought elicits response
- Chapter 8: Feeling dissed, had enough

• Photo gallery of the e-mailed documents

• Video: Ledger Live talks with The Star-Ledger's Josh Margolin

The Katz e-mails were sent from her AOL.com account; Corzine’s from one maintained by his campaign. As is common with e-mails and other short forms of communication, the exchanges are replete with typos. The messages show Katz’s persistence and determination to be heard by the governor and to have their past — a serious relationship from 2002 to 2004 — not covered up.

For instance, at 2:43 p.m. on March 8, 2007, Katz seemed furious that Corzine, when pressed by reporters, had been publicly dismissive of their relationship even though she believed they were still close friends. He had been telling reporters at the time that Katz was "like any other person" he saw around the Statehouse.

"This is hard enough without you kicking me in the teeth," she wrote.

Corzine asked Katz to be calm — another steady theme in the messages — because both were facing questions about whether they were secretly talking away from the table about the contract affecting members of Katz’s union.

"Trying during bargaining to not prejudice, compromize or endanger either of us," he had written to her previously.

Katz’s e-mails mix the political, the personal, the intimate. That was the case on Jan. 31, when she asked Corzine about a television appearance he had made, and then said: "BTW, I had an over the top erotic dream about you last night. Bad boy!!"

There was no response from Corzine, which was often the case.

The most-pointed exchanges dealt with politics and the interactions between the governor and Katz’s union. She could be impatient.

"I would have to describe our speed here as 'glacier,'" Katz wrote at 9:55 p.m. on Feb. 10, 2007, referring to the pace of the contract talks. "I think double expressos and red bull are in order."

"Keep the faith — whichever way that cuts," Corzine responded. "I’m in praywer mode."

Katz persisted, focusing on the financial side of the contract proposals and the need to move things along at the bargaining table. Corzine, who as governor was chief of the state’s negotiating team, did not respond to that message either.

While the e-mails in question were sent well after the Corzine-Katz romantic relationship ended, the timing of the communications between the two powerful figures is important. Corzine and his aides were negotiating a contract with the seven union locals that represent the bulk of New Jersey’s state government workers. Katz was president of a local, the CWA’s largest, representing 8,000 state employees. The negotiations not only set salaries but changed pension and benefit rules and led to financial obligations that future generations of taxpayers will carry.

The contract was settled Feb. 21, 2007. Wilson, the GOP chairman, immediately began questioning whether the bargaining process had somehow been poisoned by private back-channel discussions between Katz and Corzine. A month later, Wilson filed a request under the state Open Public Records Act to review any e-mails that Corzine or his aides exchanged with Katz "in the course of the governor’s or his staff’s official business."

The special two-person panel that counsels the governor on ethics reviewed the correspondence at Corzine’s request and concluded that "inadvisable … personal conversations" had taken place, but that the contract talks had not been compromised.

Unsatisfied, Wilson filed suit against Corzine, seeking access to the computer records. State Superior Court Judge Paul Innes ordered the messages released, saying: "The public has a right to know whether the relationship between the governor and Ms. Katz had any improper influence on the governor’s paramount obligation to serve the interest of the citizens of New Jersey first."
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That ruling was overturned seven months later in the Appellate Division, where judges found Corzine had the right to claim executive privilege to keep the e-mails under wraps. The state Supreme Court, without offering a reason, handed Corzine a final victory March 18, 2009, by denying Wilson’s request to consider overturning the appellate ruling.

Corzine and the state attorney general at the time, Anne Milgram, argued that releasing the e-mails would violate the governor’s right to communicate confidentially in the course of his decision-making process. Katz joined in defense of the lawsuit on her own, arguing the records had to be kept secret because they were documents associated with collective bargaining and therefore exempt from public records law.

State lawyers spent $127,000 worth of staff time and expenses to defend Corzine in the case. That sum did not include the additional hours worked by Milgram and her top deputies, or the lawyers in the governor’s office, who took active roles in the matter.

Wilson said the e-mails obtained by The Star-Ledger confirm his suspicions about the secret communication between Katz and Corzine while the contract was being bargained.

"These e-mails clearly demonstrate that Jon Corzine deliberately and knowingly lied to the public about the nature and extent of his relationship and contact with Carla Katz before, during and after the 2007 contract negotiations," Wilson said.

Corzine’s attorney said the e-mails show the former governor upheld his public duty.

"The release of these e-mails proves that Jon Corzine met all applicable ethics standards expected of public officials and confirms again the findings of the governor’s ethics panel," Elias said. "It is unfortunate that The Star-Ledger has chosen to excerpt personal e-mails that were neither the subject of public business nor of any litigation."

The e-mails obtained by the newspaper had been retrieved from Corzine’s e-mail account by his attorneys in 2007 as they were reviewing his correspondence with Katz in preparation for defending him against the Wilson suit. Only e-mails his aides deemed non-personal were eventually sent to Innes, the Superior Court judge who analyzed them to determine which, if any, ought to be released.

Of the 123 e-mails obtained by The Star-Ledger, some were sent during normal business hours. Others came and went in the middle of the night. At 1:08 a.m. on Feb. 8, 2007, Katz told Corzine she had left him a voice message, explained her mother was ill and that she was exhausted, before segueing into the ongoing contract talks and then signing off with an endearment.

"I’ll try to find you tomorrow," she wrote. "We start bargaining early (our team). xxx"

‘SUDDEN SILENT TREATMENT’
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During one five-day period, the e-mails show Katz on a roller coaster of emotions: affectionate, then exasperated when Corzine did not respond, then angry.

At 11:15 p.m. on Feb. 13, she sent the governor a note harking back to their romantic days, saying, "Happy Valentine’s Day, sweetie. You are both a good man and a hard man...and I like both. xxx"

A day later, Katz wanted to know what was happening with the contract talks. As the evening of Valentine’s Day progressed, she still hadn’t gotten the answers she sought, and that sharpened her edge.

At 12:04 p.m. on Feb. 15, she was growing insistent and said she was taking the governor’s silence "personally."

It didn’t stop there. At 8:56 a.m. on Feb. 17, Katz was annoyed and upped the ante, saying she wasn’t looking to discuss negotiations but she needed to speak with Corzine and had been leaving messages for him. "I rarely say it is important and wish you respected that by getting a hold of me quickly."

Corzine responded by having Tom Shea, his chief of staff, deal with Katz. But that did not suit the governor’s ex-girlfriend, who wrote him at 9:40 a.m. on Feb. 17 to say talking to Shea was not sufficient.

By day’s end, Katz was pleading with the governor. "Please, at least ... tell me why you are suddenly not speaking or in contact with me. I don’t understand."

That last note, just four days before negotiators would agree to final terms for the CWA contract, prompted an emphatic response from Corzine.

"I was asked by all to be disciplined and I am. After. The budget speech, we should catch up. I’ve tried to make tom available. I have told the public I would be their rep and I hope you can appreciate the perception of conflict. This ahurdle you and I must get through to have any hope of normal public commentary. Unfair perceptions hurt all of us an create distrust of my efforts to do what is hard and the right thing. Ibelkieve that is true for you and probably you constituency aswell. Again--i am sorry, but a quiet period is the right thing. I hope your mom is better. We shall overcome."

Katz responded, clearly hurt.

"Considering our long shared personal history, current press dilemma and my famuly crisis, I can’t imagine why you wouldn’t have told me in advance of the sudden silent treatment," Katz wrote. "You don’t understand how important it is for you to be talking to me to achieve your goals."

While Corzine tried to convince Katz that they needed to avoid contact because of the negotiations, Katz had been sending e-mails pertaining to the talks for weeks.

On Feb. 7, Katz sent him a 22-point list of "non-economic issues" that were part of the union discussions. Ninety minutes later, she said she was disturbed that the Treasury Department had, in her view, leaked a story that would hurt the union’s bargaining position.

In the following days, she complained repeatedly about two of her key bargaining issues: Corzine’s efforts to eliminate both the Commerce Commission, whose employees were represented by her union, and one of the state’s flexible-scheduling programs, which was beloved by CWA members at the Department of Environmental Protection.

At 5:39 a.m. on Feb. 20, Katz sent a message with the subject "You used me" and she accused Corzine of taking her best ideas during contract talks but never giving her credit. The governor, she said, disappointed her when he "shoved every single thing I cared about right up my ass."
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• Corzine asks Supreme Court not to revisit ruling on Carla Katz e-mails

• GOP Chairman issues deadline for Corzine-Katz e-mail appeal

• Corzine settles with Katz relative for $362,500

• Corzine-Katz e-mail case argued in appeals court

• Appeals court hears arguments in Corzine-Katz e-mail case

• Corzine seeks to fast-track e-mail suit, despite ex's objections

• Corzine files appeal on e-mail ruling

• Corzine-Katz e-mail deadline nears

• Corzine-Katz e-mail case has cost state over $54,000 so far

• Corzine stays mum on details of Katz e-mail

• Legal saga of Jon Corzine and Carla Katz e-mails

RELATIONSHIP’S WAKE

While the e-mails were going back and forth, Katz maintained an apartment in the same Hoboken building that Corzine called home. On Feb. 18, 2007, she reminded the governor of that, saying she was available to get together on his schedule. Then, Katz related a bizarre tale of what had happened the night before. A male visitor had mistaken Corzine’s apartment for hers and rang the governor’s doorbell. "It was my new beau who was apparently having a freudian moment and went to your door instead of mine," she wrote. "Would have been interesting if you’d opened the door though!"

E-mails exchanged at the peak of the public controversy over Corzine’s history with Katz show the pair engaged in heated back-and-forth about the language they should use when describing their relationship in public. After having broken off their romance in 2004, Corzine told Katz in 2007 that he was consciously trying to downplay their continuing friendship.

"I was ttrying tonot usse the word romantic. That should have been obvios," he wrote on March 8, 2007. Less than five minutes later, he added: "I undwerstand angst but I am trying noyt to make news! Let’s try to calm this thing down."

Katz was not calm. Media scrutiny of her relationship with Corzine was intensifying after The Star-Ledger revealed on March 4 that the multimillionaire governor had given Katz far more in financial gifts than he previously disclosed.

At 8:05 p.m. that day, Katz sounded livid, sending Corzine a three-paragraph message that accused him of violating the terms of the deal they struck after breaking up. She said Corzine was hurting her children and implored him to consider people other than himself.

"We had a clear confidentiality agreement that youve now breached. Please stop. No more," Katz wrote. "As hard as it might be...you must say ‘some things are private’ … You have got to stop hurting me like this."

Katz grew furious over the way she had been described by the hosts and callers on New Jersey 101.5 FM radio.

"An you don’t understand my angst," she wrote at 2:53 p.m. on March 8. "You were not referred to as a SLUT-WHORE for hours at a time over the past three days."

Corzine, at 3:19 p.m., said he understood how she felt, in terms far out of character for a governor who was usually loath to display emotion or launch personal attacks in public.

"Those guys are scumam ihate what they say about you. Youa3e my friend but we need tocalm that down," he wrote.

Katz was growing angrier by the e-mail.

At 3:53 p.m., she again threw Corzine’s comments back at him — only this time she seized on the words Corzine used in The Star-Ledger to acknowledge he had given her financial gifts as they were breaking up in 2004.

In an interview, Corzine had said "If you were — I’m hypothesizing; I’m not stating anything — if you were going to pay a tuition bill or something over a period of time … you pre-funded it … I could have done that."

Katz wrote that the raging controversy was purely Corzine’s fault.

"I know you’ve rationalized this but I don’t believe we’d be in this firestorm if you hadn’t given hypotheticals on Friday and I still don’t understand it," she wrote. "And now you want to distance from me by saying that you’re not my friend? I’m being hammered everywhere...I’m fending for myself. And it really sucks."

Within a few days, Katz had calmed down, and her e-mails again fluctuated between playful and serious. She kept asking to see Corzine — for a drink or just a brief chat — and even dispatched his-and-hers horoscopes in separate e-mails on March 12.

By 5:21 p.m. March 15, she sent a note announcing that she had relaxed and was back in Hoboken with the hope that Corzine would see her and that the quiet time could give way to being "temporarily noisy." Ninety-three minutes later, she wrote: "Anybody there???... 9 p.m. drinks? 9:30? 10?" Six minutes after that, she wrote: "Tomorrow? Sat? Sunday? 2008? 2009? 2020?"

Corzine said he was tied up, first with official appearances and then visiting his adult children. He was suspicious about a lull in the controversy, and he encouraged Katz to relax and go to bed.

START OF THE SCRUTINY
corzine-katz-email.jpgStar-Ledger file photoFormer Gov. Jon Corzine and ex-girlfriend Carla Katz fought to keep their e-mails from public view. The Star-Ledger has obtained 123 e-mails.

The Corzine-Katz relationship had been a popular political sideshow in New Jersey from just about the minute Corzine announced in December 2004 he would be seeking the Democratic nomination for governor. As a separated and then divorced U.S. senator, Corzine had dated Katz for two years, ending in June 2004, without news coverage or controversy — mainly because the union local she led rarely if ever crossed paths with Corzine, who was focused on his position on Capitol Hill.

That stood to change if he were elected governor, and he was quickly confronted with questions about whether he would have a conflict of interest in dealing with the thousands of state workers represented by the CWA.

As Corzine campaigned, it was revealed that he had paid off a $470,000 mortgage Katz had on her Hunterdon County home. In 2007, Corzine acknowledged for the first time he had actually given Katz millions of dollars. Scrutiny of the two took on a more serious tone as the contract talks arrived at center stage in Trenton.

With reporters probing the relationship and with political opponents suggesting the negotiations were rigged, press strategy and media became a frequent topic of discussion between the two. They talked about individual reporters, and Katz implored Corzine and Shea to try to manage the reporters’ coverage.

She complained a number of times about 101.5, and Corzine told her on March 5: "Scum -- dont listen ifpossible."

Katz and Corzine both expressed their disdain for Deborah Howlett, a Star-Ledger reporter at the time. It was Howlett who first reported Corzine’s additional gifts to Katz.

Katz called Howlett a "bitch" on March 7, 2007. At 9 a.m. on March 21, Corzine said that when they had spoken the night before, he was out of sorts because he was tired, had attended a funeral, had conducted a 105-minute town hall meeting and "loking at DH too much makes me grumpy."

(Even so, Corzine would hire Howlett in February 2008 to be his communications director. Howlett now runs a liberal think tank in Trenton.)

Katz was also insistent that Corzine use his influence both with New Jersey leaders and union officials in Washington to help with their public relations. On March 16, she sent an e-mail to Corzine with the subject "Fix it right now." The message came with the CWA contract newly settled and with Katz opposing it even as most other CWA officials in New Jersey endorsed it.

Katz was facing a new controversy over the fact that five of seven CWA local presidents endorsed the contract and were charging that Katz’s relationship with Corzine had undermined the process.

Katz wanted Corzine to contact CWA president Larry Cohen to get him to vouch for the integrity of the process that produced the union contract and to reinforce that Katz was well within her rights to oppose it.

At 9:15 p.m. on March 26, 2007, Katz sent an e-mail to Corzine asking, "You around tonight?" It is the final message in the set. Katz, in the e-mail, called her fellow CWA local presidents "pigs" and insisted that the governor call them to get them to stop criticizing her and dredging up the Katz-Corzine romance in the press.

"Ti’d assumed you’d actually followed through. There is no luxury to wait because you are having fun. i am NOT having fun," she wrote. "These pigs are going to do more and worse ltomorrow) and you will be just as screwed as me. I asked you to do this since Saturday and you’ve just completely ignored me. You didn’t even return my e-mails or call me since Friday. Some ‘team’ effort."
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proud

12:18 am on Saturday, May 11, 2013


Your welcome, and I'm flattered, but Elaine and Patricia do wonderful jobs and don't need my help. I have enough to do anyway trying get @Spooner to understand the MOA



They write what they are told to write by the republicon repukes

You idiots cheer for Stardummy lol maybe "you ppl" should take a look at where LTHS was ranked under his lack of leadership
Subject: Its a family affair here in Nepotismville


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funny but they can all vote to raise taxes and dole out raises with out a conflict
they should all step down they are not needed

Concerned Lacey Taxpayer

10:08 am on Saturday, May 11, 2013


It is a travesty for Lacey taxpayers that we have 3 school board members that had to abstain from voting on Dr Brower's suspension without pay because they have family members that work for the district. Mr Martenak(wife) Mr Schubiger (wife) and Ms Downing (son-in-law) . Had the 4 that could vote not been in agreement Dr Brower would still be receiving her paycheck. We need to vote these board members out- of these 3, Ms Downing is up for reelection. She needs to be replaced this Nov with a competent individual that can vote on all matters regarding Lacey Township School District. The only way to effect change is by voting out the incumbents and replacing them with "new blood" that can vote on all aspects regarding Lacey Township School District
Subject: Lacey is corrupt


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Bob Smith

9:23 am on Saturday, May 11, 2013


If Ms. Brower is guilty which remains to be seen then this just goes hand and hand with our corrupt school district. I find all of this interesting how all of these people write and say the things on this blog. Where were you on election day? why were you voting for this "Friend & Family" school board who all but one have some financial gain from the school because family members are either on the payroll or getting benefits in one way or another. Blame yourselves for the mess the school board is in. If you complainers had done something we would not be in this mess. I say put up or shut up!! You get what you deserve!! Lacey township is corrupt from top to bottom and anyone who has bothered to scratch beneath the service can see it quite clearly. What about the solar panel debacle? There is an ongoing investigation on the state level about that?? But why were these people re-elected again and again because the voters don't do anything about it. They sit home and write on these blogs instead of doing something about. Get off your butts and start making your voices heard.. Not just once but everyday!! Got to the Township committee meetings and go to the school board meetings and tell them "I am mad as hell and I am not going to take it anymore!! and then tell them John Gault sent you!!


bob john who cares proud would do both of them if told to by his owners the republicon club
Subject: Christie sucks


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look at the size of the fat fuck no bid contract giver
of course he sucks look at the size of him

Mac

12:50 pm on Friday, May 10, 2013


Ever since U.S. Attorney Chris Christie arrived in Toms River/Seasides’ in pursuit of political corruption (the Bid Rigs), Ocean County has arrogantly served as a glaring, and well-protected example of everything Governor Chris Christie says is wrong with government, and everything the Governor stands for as a leader of the people. The name George Gilmore somehow always seems to be mentioned at some point during these news reports, or not mentioned when one might think it should be. Huh? Governor says no one will take advantage of Hurricane Sandy victims. Gilmore profits handsomely off of legal backdoor Ashbritt bloated deal. Only Ashbritt to be investigated for overcharges. Oops, accounting mistake. Sorry folks. No big deal. Just give yourself another pat on the back for being the responsible voters who put U.S. Attorney Corruption Fighter Chris Christie in office. Obviously, you can afford the price of the Governor’s entertainment. I know both Georges appreciate that sentiment
Subject: personal resposibility


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Want a Glimpse of Obamacare? Look at Massachusetts
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Stigur Karlsson | E+ | Getty Images Anyone curious about the future of health care in the United States needn't look much further than Massachusetts, which already has its own form of health care reform—Romneycare.

Signed into law in 2006 by then governor and later GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney, the measure had backing from both political parties and became a blueprint of sorts for Obamacare—which goes into full effect next year.


There are some some key differences between the two laws: For example, Romneycare has lower penalty fees, lower numbers of workers before insurance is mandated for small companies, and it's funded differently. But Romneycare provides at least a small window for what's coming in 2014, say analysts.

"They have strikingly similar broad strokes, and what's happened in Massachusetts is a good reflection of what's ahead nationally," said Kosali Simon, a professor and health economist at Indiana University.

"Both aim at expanding health insurance coverage as much as possible and improving the quality of health care," Simon said. "More people will have insurance through the mandates, which both have, through the mandates and subsidizing low-income workers."

The percentage of uninsured was much smaller in Massachusetts than the national figure, Simon said, but she added that the total number of people without insurance has declined by 5 percentage points in Massachusetts. "More people will have insurance next year across the country, and people will have better health care coverage," she said.
Play VideoPres. Obama: Huge Chunk of Obamacare Already Implemented
President Obama said today that despite "sky is falling" predictions, much of Obamacare is already in place. Betsy McCaughey, "Beating Obamacare" author, and Howard Dean, former Democratic National Committee chairman, discuss.What may not happen across the country next year, if Romneycare is any guide, is a dumping of insurance coverage by businesses. Fears circulated that many companies in Massachusetts would stop offering health insurance to workers starting in 2006 because of the costs. The thinking was that firms would rather pay the penalties for not offering insurance than to pay for the insurance itself.

But during the life of Romneycare, and even the year before, the percentage of firms with three or more workers that offer insurance rose from 70 percent to 76 percent, according to the Massachusetts Employer Survey.

It looks like that sentiment could repeat itself nationally. Nearly 70 percent of benefits professionals said in a poll that their companies "definitely will" keep offering coverage to full-time workers next year, according to a recent survey from the International Foundation of Employee Benefit Plans.

(Read more: When It Comes to Health-Care Reform, the IRS Rules)

Another reflection of the future from Romneycare —and not for the best—is what's happening to small businesses.

Health insurance premiums went up by double-digit percentage points for small business policies in the state for four out of the first five years of the reform law, according to the Retailers Association of Massachusetts. Some of that is a result of rising health care costs, but some is also from additional coverage—such as mental health—that businesses must offer under both reform laws.

Adding to the problem for small businesses in Massachusetts was that many did not take part in an insurance exchange set up to help lower costs. The exchange was halted after a year due to a lack of participation.


The Retailers Association of Massachusetts say that costs under Obamacare—which exempts businesses with less than 50 workers from the mandate, while it's 11 in Massachusetts—could rise in the double digits again in the state next year.

State health insurance exchanges set up through Obamacare, which are either run by the states or the federal government starting this October, are supposed to help reduce costs. Analysts aren't so sure.

"I would say that both plans don't really focus enough on reducing health care costs," said Peter Marathas, a health and benefits lawyer in the Boston office of Proskauer.

"Since Romneycare, costs for employers have gone up at least five percentage points over the national average," Marathas said. "There's administrative costs, premium costs, and it all ads up. We really need to focus on that, and these laws don't in my opinion."

Romneycare was expected to prevent businesses, especially smaller ones, from hiring more workers as they attempted to avoid going over the 11-person limit and being penalized if they didn't offer health insurance coverage. Those fears exist with Obamacare as well.


But a study last year by the Urban Institute said that Romneycare did not result in any significant job decreases, and that any job hiring freeze was due more to the troubled economy. Going forward, things might not be so clear cut.

"We have heard reports from across the retail community, including our restaurant members, that the penalty mandates are affecting expansion, franchising and hiring decisions today," said Neil Trautwein, vice president and employee benefits policy counsel of the National Retail Federation, in congressional testimony about Obamacare in 2011. The Congressional Budget Office estimated in 2011 that employers will create 800,000 fewer jobs by 2021 as a result of the law's policies.
Overwhelming the System?
Massachusetts added some 400,000 new people to the health insurance rolls when Romneycare started. Fears were that such a large number of people would overload the system, creating longer waiting periods to see doctors and flooding hospital emergency rooms—even in a state that has the highest doctor-to-patient ratio in the country.

The Massachusetts Medical Society reported that 19 percent of residents said they waited longer than usual to see a doctor in 2012, down from 25 percent in 2008. Emergency room visits remained high until 2010, when they dropped nearly four percent, according to a report by Blue Cross Blue Shield of Massachusetts Foundation.

It's expected that 14 million Americans will be added to the system from Obamacare in 2014 and 27 million by 2017, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

(Read More: President Vows Obamacare Will Meet Deadline)


"A big problem for Obamacare will be coordinating all the care for the new people," said Simon. "It's going to be very rough at first."
Massachusetts Approval Ratings
Whether the nation as a whole will come to embrace Obamacare is in doubt, say analysts. What they have liked so far is the provision that allows children to stay on their parent's insurance policy until the age of 26, something that's in Romneycare.

Also coming with Obamacare, and which Romneycare has now, is that no one can be denied insurance coverage due to a prior condition. Lifetime caps on coverage also go away.

But also ahead are the complexities of Obamacare—the bill has more than 900 pages to it, Romneycare had around 70. And there's the cost.

"Financing for Obamacare is going to be paid through taxes, fees and Medicare savings," said Kosali Simon. "Romneycare had some exsting funds for it and got federal funds. Massachusetts paid a lot less for it than what they got from the federal government."

Most people in Massachusetts are in favor of what they get from Romneycare. Surveys over the past five years show an approval rating by state residents of around 60 percent, while 30 percent oppose it.

Whether Obamcare gets that kind of approval rating remains to be seen, said Peter Marathas.

(Read more: White House, Republicans Spar Again Over Obamacare)

"There's a lot to like in Obamacare with the extended coverage and having kids on the insurance longer," he said.

"I wouldn't throw it out as a law," Marathas said. "But I'd really like it if lawmakers could sit down, re-think some of it and really work on cutting costs and making sure everyone is covered at an affordable price."
Subject: they both suck


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Mac

12:50 pm on Friday, May 10, 2013


Ever since U.S. Attorney Chris Christie arrived in Toms River/Seasides’ in pursuit of political corruption (the Bid Rigs), Ocean County has arrogantly served as a glaring, and well-protected example of everything Governor Chris Christie says is wrong with government, and everything the Governor stands for as a leader of the people. The name George Gilmore somehow always seems to be mentioned at some point during these news reports, or not mentioned when one might think it should be. Huh? Governor says no one will take advantage of Hurricane Sandy victims. Gilmore profits handsomely off of legal backdoor Ashbritt bloated deal. Only Ashbritt to be investigated for overcharges. Oops, accounting mistake. Sorry folks. No big deal. Just give yourself another pat on the back for being the responsible voters who put U.S. Attorney Corruption Fighter Chris Christie in office. Obviously, you can afford the price of the Governor’s entertainment. I know both Georges appreciate that sentiment
Subject: Breaking News


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Curious George Bush (lick Gannons Balls in the WH)
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Republicons in the House to vote to repeal Obamacare for the 38th time lol

How bout dem red necks in Sc Mark Family Values Sandford won lol the state of SC doesnt come in last in education for nothing

Proud how do you find the coverage of medicare?
will you have a tea party demonstration to burn your medicare card and SS check you hypocrite
Subject: The fleecing of the taxpayers


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AshBritt's 'Ambiguous' Contract Resulted in Extra Charges, Report Says

"Discrepancies" were found in some of the charges submitted by AshBritt, the debris removal firm contracted by the state after Superstorm Sandy


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AshBritt, Inc., the firm hired by the state to haul debris after Superstorm Sandy, benefited from an “ambiguous” contract that resulted in at least tens of thousands in extra charges, according to a report released on Wednesday.

Ocean County Administrator Carl Block handed the Freeholders a thick report at Wednesday’s pre-board meeting. The report, done by state-hired monitor The Louis Berger Group, Inc., reviews the mileage billed to Ocean County by AshBritt.

“The director contacted me after some articles had been written about the clean up efforts,” Block said. Freeholder Director John P. Kelly had asked for a report to be done breaking down the process of debris hauling as well as the charges in relation to distance.

“Discrepancies” had been found in AshBritt’s charges, the report from Louis Berger, Inc. says.

“When AshBritt began submittal of its invoices to Louis Berger, a discrepancy in the mileage was noted: AshBritt was consistently billing for approximately 2.5 miles in excess of what Louis Berger had identified as the shortest route,” the report says.

The AshBritt contract, which was taken from a deal negotiated with Connecticut in 2008, did not require trucks to take a specific route. Louis Berger instructed AshBritt to take the shortest possible route to and from the various sites. Odometer readings, a GPS, Google Maps and Map Quest were used to monitor mileage.

AshBritt’s invoices accounted for the total mileage between the temporary debris removal areas (TDMAs), which were selected by the 14 municipalities participating in Ocean County’s shared service agreement, and the landfill-tipping site, rather than just to the gate of the landfill as Louis Berger anticipated, the report says.

Another firm, Arcadis Inc. monitored debris removal from Bay Head. As a courtesy, Arcadis Inc. provided Louis Berger and the county with details on the mileage it monitored. The reports were within tenths of a mile to AshBritt’s invoices, Block said. The firm had also included distance within the landfill.

“With three national firms that all calculated the same way, all going inside the landfill, one would assume that in fact is the correct way,” Block said. “The distances seem to be well within the ranges.”

Louis Berger found AshBritt’s interpretation was reasonable, the report says.

Another discrepancy was found in travel distances, Block said.

Payment is based on mileage brackets: 0-15 miles, 16-30 miles, 31-60 miles and so on, the report says, calling the contract “ambiguous on several key points.” Debris hauled 0-15 miles is charged at a lower rate than debris hauled 16-30 miles. The contract did not establish payment for debris hauled between 15.1 and 15.9 miles.

“The contract doesn’t address a couple gaps in there. That’s one of them,” Block said.

AshBritt charged 30 percent more for trips longer than 16 miles, according to The Record.

Debris hauled from the Bay Head TDMA, Louis Berger monitored that site during the month of December, was calculated at 15.8 miles. The total difference in cost for debris hauled during that time frame was less than $30,000.

The “mileage ambiguity” in Bay Head has been “flagged,” Louis Berger said. The issue will be resolved with the governing authorities, including FEMA, and reconciled during the final project closeout process.

There were also instances in which the additional 2.5 miles from the gate of the County Landfill to the tipping location caused the cost to jump from the 0-15 mile bracket to the 16-30 mile bracket, the report says.

AshBritt made hundreds of trips to Ocean County’s landfill in Manchester, The Record reported. The contractor was credited for driving 2.5 miles within the landfill. The extra mileage extended the trip beyond the 16-mile mark. As a result, AshBritt charged some towns more than $500,000.

In February, the Freeholders approved a $7.5 million payment to AshBritt for storm debris removal. The Freeholders also approved a $45 million emergency appropriation for debris removal in March. Ineligible charges will be deducted from future payments to AshBritt, Block said.

“Nobody is fully paid because we haven’t reconciled all the bills, number one. Number two, we’re not going to pay 100 percent out yet until this process and everything is picked up and reconciled,” Block said. “We’ll go back and look at everything and make sure everything that needs to be adjusted is done.”

Bills issued at a higher rate related to the Bay Head TDMA will be adjusted, Block ensured.

"They'll be done at the accounting at the end," he said.

Kelly originally asked for the report to determine “who’s right and who’s wrong,” he said. The county will be working with AshBritt to come to an agreement on the appropriate payment.

An email from March included in Louis Berger’s report shows the additional 2.4 miles of hauling distance incurred within the Ocean County Landfill from the Route 70 entrance of the facility to the where the material was tipped. AshBritt provided its routing matrix to validate the mileages.

“If you are unable to validate mileages listed, kindly revert back with your finds and we will work through to resolution,” Dow Knight of AshBritt said in the email.

Two investigators from the state Comptroller’s Office were present at the Freeholders pre-board meeting. Last week, Gov. Chris Christie announced that the state would be investigating AshBritt’s charges.

“We were sent the letter from the governor asking us to investigate,” said Pete McAleer spokesman for the Office of the State Comptroller. “We don’t comment on pending investigations.”

Christie has faced criticism for the $150 million no-bid contract with AshBritt. The governor opted to use AshBritt, who has a history of political donations in addition to a payroll that includes Republican Chairman of Ocean County George Gilmore. But the decision was justified as a way to expedite the post-Sandy cleanup by utilizing an existing contract with Connecticut and ultimately forgoing competitive bidding
Subject: TREASON Amidst the Ranking Sheep


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OH THE HUMANITY
Posted on May 8, 2013


Hitlery “Lardass” Clinton is being held accountable for Benghazi! OMG! How can this happen? Someone who was in charge is actually being held accountable for DEAD AMERICANS and a destroyed US Embassy! The…horror!

EXCERPT: “(CNSNews.com) – President Barack Obama called Secretary of State Hillary Clinton at approximately 10 p.m. on the night of the terrorist attacks on the U.S. facilities in Benghazi, Libya, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney told CNSNews.com. That was more than six hours after the attacks started, more than an hour before Tryone Woods and Glen Doherty were killed–and about the time that Clinton first released a statement linking the attacks to “inflammatory material posted on the Internet,” a reference to an anti-Muslim video on YouTube.”

Things that make you go, “WHAT THE F*CK!“

They BOTH knew that this was happening, Hitlery cut security and Obummer gave the order to ”stand down,” as ONLY THE PRESIDENT can do! Oopsey libtards, looks like a pair of shitheels are going down, and not like BJ Bubba would prefer.

hitleryk
“IT’S NOT FAIR! I WON’T BE ABLE TO RUN IN 2016!
WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE!?”

SAVED ROUND: A corrupt Congcritter from Maryland, Elijah Cumstain, er, Cummings had this to say about Benghazi: “death is a part of life.” Hmm. The Gunny wonders what this sack of shit would say if HIS kin were murdered at Benghazi. AMAZING that liberals like these vermin can LIE to the FACES of the victim’s families, blaming a video that was NEVER responsible (although about 40 MORE people died and 800 wounded in subsequent riots AFTER Obama, Rice, and Hitlery LIED.) and they simply think that they can walk away from this?

Hank Johnson, Lacy Clay, Elijah Cummings, Sheila Jackson-Lee, the crazy bitch who hit a Capitol policeman, William Jefferson, Maxine Waters, Conyers, The diaper stain who said TEA party members spit on him… WHO elects these STUPID piss-ignorant dirtbags?

SPEAKING of ignorant morons, Duncey Pelosi had this to say about The Hildabeast: “She is the MOST qualified person in the modern era to be President.” Yeah, maybe in a Third World shitehole. Duncey Pelosi operates HUA. (Head Up Ass)

DARRELL ISSA NAILS IT: “NO question the Clinton’s circle involved in the Benghazi coverup.”

“Paging Vince Foster. Vince Foster. Please come to the white courtesy phone.”



http://cnsnews.com/news/article/wh-obama-called-hillary-night-benghazi-attack-more-six-hours-after-it-started
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/05/08/dem_congressman_at_benghazi_
hearing_death_is_a_part_of_life.html
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/dem-congressman-blames-budget-cuts_721914.html (Congcritter Lacy Clay opens oral sewer and spews shit.)
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/dem-congressman-we-have-protect-you-fellow-employees_721909.html# (Congcritter Elijah Cummings circles the wagons…as usual)


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