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Date Posted: 05:14:00 02/18/08 Mon
Author: Joan
Author Host/IP: ip68-0-253-131.ri.ri.cox.net / 68.0.253.131
Subject: Two judgements?
In reply to: catie 's message, "Re: The meaning of eternal/unquenchable" on 20:45:25 02/17/08 Sun

Do you believe that there are two judgements? I beleive that all of us are judged at death. Do you believe that we all have to wait for general judgement, meaning that there is no personal judgement at death?

Joan

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[> [> [> Re: Two judgements? -- Catie, 06:46:23 02/18/08 Mon [1] (h78.8.28.71.ip.alltel.net/71.28.8.78)

I apologize for not having exact scripture at hand. Once upon a time I could recall those things. Now, my brain is mush. If you want scriptures then let me know. I will get them. Here is what the bible says about judgement.

Christians are forgiven. As far as the East is from the West so are our sins, cast even unto the deepest seas. We know that is an expression, meaning the Christian is truly forgiven. It's as if sin never happened. Now we have the Holy Spirit here to guide us "into all truth" We know Christ IS the truth. We "hear" that little voice, our hearts are tugged whenever sin is present and we are confronted with a choice. We then choose according to our will. The Christian is being judged by God now, daily, as the holy spirit guides us. How else could those dead in Christ be resurrected right into heaven? Would God be mean enough to allow some to come to heaven only to be judged and then cast them away?! No. Never. Remember in Revelations Satan goes before God to condemn the Christians and it says the Book of Life is opened and their names were found written there? God will say, "What sin?" for the bible tells us he will remember our sins no more. "There is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ" At the day of judgement God sees no sin in his Christians but only the blood of Christ. Just as in the old testament, death passed by the house whose doorpost was stained with the blood of the slain lamb. For those whose names are not written in the book, judgement will take place after the resurrection of all sinners including the dead in sin. "That great and terrible day of the Lord" as John the revelator called it. Those in sin will be judged individually, but in God's way and time. I believe it will all happen in a moment's time. Each one at the same time being "reminded" of their sins of how they rejected God. It is not two judgements, but consider God's timing, it is all A Day of judgement.

As for the fire, according to John in Revelations, he saw a literal fire, an all consuming fire, where sin is swallowed up, burned away, in the presence of holiness. God himself.

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