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Date Posted: 21:47:18 11/18/08 Tue
Author: Roger
Subject: Re: No God, no heaven no hell
In reply to: BrianD 's message, "Re: No God, no heaven no hell" on 21:36:33 11/18/08 Tue

Any religious teaching may need to be reinterpreted in terms of changes in society and technology. Christians are doing that all the time, and I have been told that Muslim scholars are doing so, too. There are some Christians who don't believe in reinterpreting the Bible, and we have met at least one.

I'm not speaking for you here, Rana, I'm just sticking my paddle into the lake.

>Fair enough. I obviously jumped the shark on that one.
>However, surely you cannot argue that the Qur'an
>teaches equality amongst believers, non-believers,
>slaves, handicapped, etc. as I know this is not the
>case. So if the Qur'an is truely the word of Allah,
>then clearly Allah has no problem with hierarchies and
>indeed even slavery. To be succinct, the word of God
>you so praise as a truth is clearly the word at the
>particular period at which it was written. This fact
>alone doesn't strike you as convenient?
>
>
>>Here is the Sura I told you about:
>>"On account of that, We prescribed for the Children of
>>Israel that whoever kills another person without them
>>having killed anyone or spread corruption in the land,
>>would be viewed as if he killed all mankind, and
>>anyone who spares a life would be viewed as if he
>>granted life to all mankind. Our messengers brought
>>them clear proofs, and then many of them committed
>>excesses in earth" 5:32
>>
>>
>>>>Doesn't the Qur'an also tell you to kill all
>>>>non-believers?
>>>>
>>>Nooo... A very BIG NO.
>>>If you kill another person, no matter of what
>religion
>>>this person was, it is considered in Islam as if you
>>>killed all people, Muslims and non Muslims (I would
>>>have cited the sura of Qur'an that says so, but I am
>>>at the office now. I don't have access to a copy),
>>>except if that person has killed another person,
>>>deliberately, not by mistake, or if you killed him/
>>>her in self defense.
>>>
>>>And, you get rewarded if you helped other people,
>>>Muslims or non Muslims.

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Re: No God, no heaven no hell -- rana, 02:39:18 11/22/08 Sat