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Date Posted: 04:34:23 12/10/08 Wed
Author: Michael
Subject: Re: Thoughts on Michael's question
In reply to: iteo 's message, "Re: Thoughts on Michael's question" on 20:07:44 12/09/08 Tue

I dont think I am 'right' and others are 'wrong'.

It makes sense to me and answers my questions...therefore it is 'right for me'. Christianity is 'right' for others, and Islam for others etc.

I have long believed that all the main religions are based on the same basic truths, told differently.

I agree with you that there is the 'logic' aspect to these things and there is the extra aspect.

It is useful to have a belief in something that explains what I observe, otherwise one has no limit to what one will believe.

Equally, I believe that what I observe and experience is limited by my senses, therefore not reliable.

>
>>My beliefs explain almost everything and do so better
>>than other faiths or science, os fro me its the least
>>worst option.
>
>Michael,
>
>I would argue that what you say above is exactly the
>problem. You mistakenly think you have answers.
>
>I will argue that the rational mind cannot possibly
>gain any genuine understanding, it can only point to
>'this' or 'that' and say "that is real", when it's
>mostly a product of collective belief.
>
>Before my epiphany (sorry to keep harping on that, but
>it has changed me in every way), I had many logical
>reasons why all religions were incompatible.
>
>I was convinced that Christianity was evil and
>Hinduism was pathetically ridiculous with all of their
>monkey gods and elephant gods, etc.
>
>I had very logical arguments that would be nearly
>impossible for someone coming from a purely logical
>POV to refute.
>
>And yet, incredibly my epiphany "told" me that I was
>wrong and that all religions are, more or less, Truth.
>
>It was only due to that experience - one that went
>beyond logic, that came from Spirit, Consciousness,
>whatever you want to call it - that I then started
>studying all religions with a new openness.
>
>And to my amazement, I am now able to see the
>parallels between all of these religions and realize
>that the coarse messages contained in these religions
>are not always the real message.
>
>The 'real' message is hidden and can only be
>understood by the Spirit. The genius' who wrote the
>great sacred texts of all religions knew how to
>combine myth and parables that the logical mind could
>read but the Spirit could 'understand' only if the
>Spirit was ready.
>
>If one is locked into logical reasoning, the message
>will be hidden.
>
> I realize that your beliefs probably seem logical to
>you on both a spiritual level and a mind level
>(personally I agree with much of what you believe
>too), but I only suggest to you to stop thinking that
>you're "right" and everyone else is wrong and accept
>that you could be mistaken on some of the beliefs you
>hold so dear- even it that seems impossible.

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