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Date Posted: 18:32:35 10/14/08 Tue
Author: Michael
Subject: Re: Old Job or New Job?
In reply to: iteo 's message, "Re: Old Job or New Job?" on 11:53:09 10/14/08 Tue

Hi

this is impossible to be able to answer accurately, thus it is a dilemma. In situations like this i have taken a deep breathe and gone with what I guess will be a slightly more likely better option. i also remind myself that no-one knows the answer, and no-one will, so there is no 'right answer'.

My best guess (before reading iteo's) was probably best to go to the new company, as planned.
The present company will become a big unknown - same not nice colleagues, unknown new terms and conditions, maybe redundancy and job losses.
As you suspect the GM may not stay. Even if you ask him and he says he will stay, he doesnt know what the future holds for him or the new company. New owners want to keep the staff of the old company - but only initially. Once they get to know the business, how it works in detail they like to make their own changes. They also like to employ their 'own' people that they recruited. When businesses change ownership there is often a big change in staff 3 - 12 months later. Sometimes for the better, of course, but sometimes being an 'old' employee from the 'old' system condemns you.

Another reason that would influence me is that you say you have signed for the new company. I always feel that I should stick to what I have promised, even if it is suggested I would be better off changing. I would want strong reasons to go back on my word - purely because i always suspect bad things are more likely to happen if I do.

Finally, the new company will be a new start for you. That in itself can be a good thing, once you have adapted in the first week or so. Change can be good. You can get stuck in a 'comfort zone'.

this is all easy for me to say, safely protected from the consequences. I recognise your dilemma.

After all that I am tempted to delete all of the above and leave only the following reply:

Whatever you decide will be the best, because it will be what you feel most comfortable with....and then its God's Will.

>Hi Rana
>
>I completely sympathize with your plight! Not an easy
>decision at all - but perhaps look at it this way:
>
>Right now you cannot see any clear distinction between
>the two - both jobs come with big unanswered
>questions, so no matter which you choose, it could
>turn out to be the wrong decision.
>
>So based on the information you write here, my
>thinking would be to keep to the original plan of
>staying on with the current job and not change your
>mind. This way you don't have to go back on your word.
>
>The salary reduction is minor, so I wouldn't let that
>change your mind (especially when you have no
>guarantees that your salary won't change with the
>Chinese company). Plus I don't see much reason for a
>Chinese company to treat you well when they
>notoriously treat their employees like slaves.
>
>Plus, your GM only decided to show appreciation after
>you've resigned. This reminds me of the waiter we
>occasionally get at a restaurant who gives terrible
>service until it's time for the tip, then he pretends
>to be nice.
>
>All in all, I'd say stick with the plan you've
>embarked on and don't look back.
>
>
>
>>Hi all,
>>Here's what happened.
>>Yesterday I met, for the first time, the new general
>>manager of the company I work for (old one). He
>>assumed the possition for the transitional period
>>until the business is transfered to the chinese
>>company.
>>The GM advised me strongly against leaving the company
>>saying the new phase will be only better, far better
>>he said to the extent that he himself is considering
>>staying with the new company (they asked him to).
>>
>>The fact is, there are several reasons that make me
>>want to leave. But if this GM stayed, at least most of
>>these reasons will disappear. The reason he called me
>>to his office yesterday is that I pointed out a
>>mistake that was about to be done. He thanked me and
>>showed appreciation (something I never been showed
>>before in this company)
>>
>>This morning I found an e-mail from him saying that he
>>hopes I change my mind about leaving the company. and
>>now, I don't know what to do...
>>
>>All the facts I have to consider before making a
>>decision are not facts, only speculations.
>>There is the issue of salary.. the new company will be
>>giving me less, so..??!!
>>The GM told me that he is almost certain the chinese
>>will not cut down salaries
>>There is also the issue of appreciation.. In the new
>>company I have to start from scratch, I don't know the
>>people there.. what if they were not nice? but again,
>>what if this GM left? most people here are not that
>>nice either.. and the more competent I proved the more
>>cautious and supressive they are (not management but
>>staff.. and the management didn't notice before)
>>
>>Do you think it will be appropreate to ask the GM if
>>he is 100% sure he is staying and that if he is going
>>to stay I decide to stay too?
>>
>>I don't know what to decide, and I need to decide
>>quickly, because if I am to decline the offer of teh
>>new company (which I had already signed) I have to
>>notify them ASAP...
>>But what if staying here was a wrong decision? I would
>>have lost an opportunity that might not be repeated...
>>
>>Please tell me what you think?
>>
>>PS, please forgive any grammer or spl mistakes as I am
>>writing from the office and am too busy to review..

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