While I shudder for Pamela at having to do such a horrible thing, I truly believe she felt she was backed into a corner with nowhere else to turn. She knows that Love is bent on destroying Casey and feels that she must destroy him first. I think Agent Gus was desperate, knowing Love was onto -- and had killed -- at least one of their agent and was possibly about to discover and kill others. Women have been used in this role of spy through pillow talk throughout history, so this is hardly a novel idea -- to bring a man down through his sexual desires. I don't think that Jamie is Pamela's moral compass, just a true friend of the soul whom she can trust to give her honest advice and opinion. In reality, if this was Jamie's sphere of influence he would have gotten rid of Love through his own channels, rather than having Pamela put herself in such a position, but in Boston they are beyond even Jamie's reach. -- Cindy's Cottage

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Date Posted: 09:16:31 07/30/09 Thu
Author: Carla
Subject: While I shudder for Pamela at having to do such a horrible thing, I truly believe she felt she was backed into a corner with nowhere else to turn. She knows that Love is bent on destroying Casey and feels that she must destroy him first. I think Agent Gus was desperate, knowing Love was onto -- and had killed -- at least one of their agent and was possibly about to discover and kill others. Women have been used in this role of spy through pillow talk throughout history, so this is hardly a novel idea -- to bring a man down through his sexual desires. I don't think that Jamie is Pamela's moral compass, just a true friend of the soul whom she can trust to give her honest advice and opinion. In reality, if this was Jamie's sphere of influence he would have gotten rid of Love through his own channels, rather than having Pamela put herself in such a position, but in Boston they are beyond even Jamie's reach.
In reply to: Lil 's message, "Mermaid in a Bowl of Tears, Chapters 7 & 8" on 07:46:06 07/30/09 Thu

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Yes, women have done this for ages as spies. But it still sucks (grin). Pamela initially went to Jamie as a spy. I wonder, did Gus know her history as well? (NT) -- Tess, 09:31:16 07/30/09 Thu
- I would venture to say that Agent Gus probably knows Pamela's history rather well. :) I knew this was a part of the story that would be controversial, and that many readers wouldn't like- heck, I wasn't thrilled when the storyline presented itself in my mind, but even now in retrospect, it's just how the story went. I think to understand part of why Pamela made this decision, you have to understand that both Love Hagerty and his real life counterpart- Whitey Bulger had such a lock on those neighbourhoods in Boston that people were afraid of everything- police, Feds etc.>>> -- celtgirl, 11:51:48 07/30/09 Thu
  - FWIW, I'm not a lightweight reader here. I am pretty ok with appalling storylines...if not for them, what would we have to discuss?....I am morbidly looking forward to Casey's reaction when he finds out about this...I feel pretty certain that he will. Generally initial reactions are more visceral to the controversial things (like Pamela's rape...ee gads...I was sittingin a hotel lobby surrounded by conventioners when I read that! Had I any inkling what was about to happen, I would have been somewhere by myself!). Subsequent re-reads allow for the more thoughtful analytical contemplation. (NT) -- Tess, 12:25:39 07/30/09 Thu
    - I'm hoping I didn't come across in a bad way with what I said- I just thought I'd explain some of my reasoning behind how the story actually went, because it did give me pause at the time, as well. (NT) -- celtgirl, 13:00:18 07/30/09 Thu
      - Er no, you didn't And I didn't take any ill meaning. I honestly have a difficult time keeping my thoughts in order in this message format because I can't see (and often forget) what I have already written in the message....maybe I orta put everything inside the message. But I wanted to try to convey that ~yes~ this decision of Pamela's upset me...as it is supposed to do...however, I like it when a storyline disturbs me. But then I also like to go off into the various tangents of why/how, etc, and dissect the heck out of it. I'm admittedly naive at this point, since I don't have the knowledge of 'what will happen next' as the rest of the re-readers do, and I am speculating blindly at this point. But I am having fun...so feel free to 'splain away at will. (grin) (NT) -- Tess, 13:14:26 07/30/09 Thu
        Tess, if you hit 'preview' it will let you see what you've written, and then you just hit post when you're ready. (NT) -- celtgirl, 13:33:54 07/30/09 Thu
        Oh, what a novel idea....(grin) (NT) -- Tess, 13:37:04 07/30/09 Thu

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