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Date Posted: 07:38:04 10/12/07 Fri
Author: Elaine
Subject: 62.4) Just taking a stab at this, cannot claim to fully understand symbolism. From what little I've read of Yeats, it seems he was adept at blending politics and mysticism or spiritualism, which I think he's doing in this verse. >>>>
In reply to: JaneH 's message, "Mermaid in a Bowl of Tears ~Chapter 61 – Butcher’s Dozen" on 03:25:05 10/12/07 Fri

The verse comes from a poem entitled, 'To Ireland in the Coming Times,' which sounds to me like a title meant to instill patriotism, to encourage, inspire, maybe even prophesy. In this poem, Yeats seems to want - or better, need - his nation to be whole.

The poem speaks of those who react with rage, and those who respond carefully (in 'measured ways'). I think we see both in this chapter and the previous one.

The lines mentioned here seem to suggest (to me anyway) that in a land of violence and division, the carefree desire for love and dreams is replaced by the need for solidarity and survival. Even God Himself treads carefully through Ireland.

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