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Date Posted: 10:54:50 11/23/09 Mon
Author: muppetmel
Subject: As it relates to Obama, we're on the same page ....
In reply to: Linda 's message, "I am not disagreeing with you about the probs in our system" on 10:38:32 11/23/09 Mon

I am not sure how you can watch Fox and get what you got about them wanting more Americans to have health care, the pundits I have seen are not in support of universal health care, and unfortunately I don't think the Obama plan covers it either. So I have issues with Obama on this and on the war, and I think one can disagree with one's leaders, just like here, even if it is the party you support.

The conservative view would be not to pay for a universal health care system funded by tax payer dollars, precisely what we have in Canada, because only a percentage would be footing the bill and the rest would be in for a "free ride." Plus, it is enormously expensive here in Canada, with about 10 times less the population.

The conservative view would be to reform the insurance system to make sure the public gets the coverage they need and signed on for. IMHO, the insurance industry needs to focus less on profit and more on quality care.

The conservative view would be it's every person's responsibility to take care of themselves and move away from an expensive nanny state. Coverage would be for catastrophic illness but not for day-to-day care. They want their insurance plans but they want plans that ensure coverage when they need it and that they get what they are promised.

The conservative view would be less government intervention in their lives because their health care is between them and their physicians, not some government bureaucrat stepping in to manage their care and determine what gets treated and what doesn't. That DOES happen in Canada. Check out what's going on in nursing homes, where we're fighting the government for more than 1 bath a week for residents and more than 1 hour of RN care per resident per day. What does so little care time mean to our nursing home residents? Hours trussed into chairs in dirtied diapers. It happens. It happened to *MY* father right here in Ontario.

The bottom line is, you can't look to the Canadian system to fix what ails the U.S. system at 10 times the population if we can't even afford to sustain it here. And we can't look to the U.S. system to start privatizing all our services so that a bottom line determines what care is available.

Both systems need reform. Neither system's blue print will work for our respective nations.

And Linda, I urge you watch Fox a little more than you do if you really want to understand their perspective. You don't have it right.

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