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Date Posted: 09:30:35 03/01/09 Sun
Author: Jeannine
Subject: I finished Atlas Shrugged last night
I would really recommend it to everyone. The WSJ says it better than I can:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123146363567166677.html
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Yes, but, what do you think,,,,? -- JennyJekins: there is a movie of Atlas Shrugged., 18:35:16 03/02/09 Mon [1]
Hi Jennine: did you enjoy the book?
I loved it, but I thought that Ayn Rand, because if her experiences in Soviet Union, was too prejudiced to look at the capitalist society with an imparialiaty.
The cititic is completely wrong when he says that Soviet Union was a socialist society. The Societ Union never became a socialist country. The Revolution might have started with those ideals in mind, but what it became was a corrupt version of communism. It never even got communism correct.
Anyway, I'd like to know what you thought of the book itself, outside of the philisophy of the author.
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Yikes: I should have previewed my post.... -- JennyJenkins: please excuse the typos... ;-), 18:38:05 03/02/09 Mon [1]
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I loved the book -- Jeannine, 10:50:48 03/03/09 Tue [1]
although it was a little long (1200 pages) and it took all my attention up for a week! I thought the basic story was great - good love story, good mystery, it was a much easier read than I expected. I am going to start the Fountainhead next.
I got a new laptop last night (yeah!) and am setting it up so I don't want to get into a long thing here - but I find her philosophy fascinating,I don't see how anyone could think socialism is the answer to the worlds problems. As for the former USSR and communism --- when has communism EVER succeeded?
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Re: I loved the book -- JennyJenkins, 11:30:22 03/03/09 Tue [1]
Just a short note: Jeannine: do you realize that all Western countries are socialist? What is socialism if not an advanced form of democracy?
Do you see your country without public education, public roads, public utilities? That's socialism.
What about common standards for work safety, medical qualifications, common laws? Do you see yourself going to a doctor who hasn't passed a medical school or using a lawyer that hasn't passed the bar? That's socialism too.
What about the armed forces in a democratic country? If that's not socialism at work then what is? The way it works: all of the citizens of the given country have given up the right to defend themselves individually, by agreeing to establish an armed force to do the defending for them.
What about the constitutions under which both of your and our countries govern. Those are socially inspired documents.
Later I'll write to you about Ayn Rand, if you want...
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good post JennyJenkins -- scooter, 12:40:58 03/08/09 Sun [1]
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Your point is well taken, Jenny -- Jeannine, 21:40:02 03/08/09 Sun [1]
but when I use the word "Socialism" I am referring to the Marxist theory of socialism. I should have been more specific.
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No Jeannine: what you are afraid of is Communism, not Socialism. -- JennyJenkins: qubbling... ;-))) LOL, 13:02:18 03/09/09 Mon [1]
If the commentators who are whipping up people's fears today, took the time to read the original philosophy of Socialism and Communism, they would be using the latter term. The reason they are not using it, is because China who holds all of USA's Iraq war debt, is Communist and they don't want to ruffle her feathers. Can you immagine what would happen to USA's economy if China called in its loans? Well, I don't want to think about it, and I live in a relative Socialist "Utopia" here in Canada.
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