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Date Posted: 05:25:30 01/21/09 Wed
Author: Hogarth
Subject: Democrats: The Party of Leading by Example

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The crowd packed on the west side of the Capitol grounds serenaded President Bush in mocking fashion when he took to the inaugural stage alongside Vice President Dick Cheney.

"Nah nah nah nah, hey hey, good-bye," a section of the crowd chanted.

The crowd packed immediately below the podium received Bush in stony silence when he took his seat on the stage surrounding the podium where Barack Obama was scheduled to take the oath office to become the 44th president of the United States.

The jeers are among the final public feedback Bush will receive as president.


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With 11 million Americans out of work and trillions of dollars lost in the stock market's tumble, Obama emphasized that his biggest challenge is to repair the tattered economy left behind by outgoing President George W. Bush.
"Our time of standing pat, of protecting narrow interests and putting off unpleasant decisions — that time has surely passed," Obama said in an undisguised shot at Bush administration policies. "Starting today, we must pick ourselves up, dust ourselves off and begin the work of remaking America."


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Obama called for a political truce in Washington to end "the petty grievances and false promises, the recriminations and worn-out dogmas, that for far too long have strangled our politics."


Way to show your class, Obama and followers. You've spent eight years tearing down an American President, you've finally got the most liberal president in the history of our country, a man so liberal that he couldn't even wait to be sworn in before throwing a trillion dollars at every liberal's pet causes, all in the name of stimulating an economy being ruined by decades of liberal policies, and you can't even be good sports about it. You mock the departing president, Obama continues to point his naive finger-of-blame at the wrong man.

Yet... he has the nerve to ask that all of these sins be forgiven now in the interest of "Change" and "Patriotism", as long as he gets the last punch in. It wasn't risky or difficult, of course, since the outgoing president has been exemplary in his refusal to react in kind. For eight long years of being vilified, mocked, denigrated, and called every despicable name under the sun, he still takes the high road. This is leading by example, a concept apparently completely foreign to our new president and our existing congress. Really, don't get me started on congress!

Compare the above to this:

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Bush — following tradition — left a note for Obama in the top drawer of his desk in the Oval Office.
White House press secretary Dana Perino said the theme of the message — which Bush wrote on Monday — was similar to what he has said since election night: that Obama is about to begin a "fabulous new chapter" in the United States, and that he wishes him well.


All reports indicate that the departing White House staff left all of the 'O' keys on the keyboards too.

I am neither Republican nor Democrat, but when forced to choose between the two, I will nearly always side with the Republicans. The Democratic Party is the party of intolerance of any views but their own, a party that defines "freedom" as the freedom to make others follow their Democratic liberal ideals. The Democrats are the party of re-defining words to suit their purposes: "Hero," used to describe a malingerer like John Kerry; "Choice" to mean mandatory abortion, "Ethics" to mean facing no consequences when caught with their hands in the public cookie jar; "Patriotism" to mean treasonous activities used to destroy the credibility of our nation; and "Partisanship" to mean capitulating to their demands.

Obama and the Democratic party need to reacquaint themselves with the Golden Rule: Treat Presidents of the other party as you would have a President from your party treated. Failing that, at least have the grace to comport yourselves as adults at your victory party.

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[> I know you think this proves your points... -- HF, 07:07:35 01/21/09 Wed [1]

But all it does for me is reaffirm that we are finally heading in the right direction as a nation. The quotes of Obama's that you object to are ones that give me confidence and faith.

As for Democrats being the party of intolerance, could we put aside all the "your group/party/team is this" accusations for once? I'm so tired of hearing that Republicans, Democrats, religious people, young people, old people, white people, black people, etc. are "this or that." For every example of hatred in each group, you can also find an example of true kindness. And vice versa. The higher the horse, the harder we fall.


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[> [> I know you think this proves your points... -- Hogarth, 07:55:14 01/21/09 Wed [1]

I find it mighty convenient that we're ready to put aside our differences now that they're, you know, in charge.

Where was that attitude for the last 8 years?


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[> [> [> You'll always find someone to blame if that's all you're looking for. -- HF, 09:06:05 01/21/09 Wed [1]


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[> Thank you Hogarth! -- Jeannine, 10:13:12 01/21/09 Wed [1]

Your post was perfect.

Some responses to my posts about G W Bush (or as Josie's family calls him, Fuckface) are a perfect illustration of intolerance, bigotry and ignorance.

That being said, some here on the board have been very gracious. HF and Scooter, among others, appear to understand that silence is sometimes truly golden.

I will always thank God that George W Bush was my president for eight years, and I am proud to welcome him back to Texas. I also pray that our country survives what lies ahead.


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[> [> Re: Thank you Hogarth! -- gg, 13:52:27 01/21/09 Wed [1]

As my dear mother used to say, "Actions speak louder than words." Obama's rhetoric is inspiring but the realities of his new job will be a challenge.

I will always stand behind each and everyone of our presidents. I wish Bush the best and the best of luck to Obama.

God bless us all and may he have mercy on us all.


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[> Mandatory abortions? -- Terry, 16:33:07 01/21/09 Wed [1]

What the heck are you talking about?


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[> [> huh? what? where? -- jayjay, 09:28:26 01/25/09 Sun [1]

you noticed that too, Terry ;-)


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[> While I don't believe Obama to be -- Bogarth, 19:18:21 01/21/09 Wed [1]

the messiah everyone else thinks he is, I do wish him well and above all, he cannot do worse for this nation than Bush/Cheney have done. A two-some that has brought this country to its knees.

Only one thing to say about this inauguration . . .



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