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Date Posted: 03:17:02 10/03/08 Fri
Author: Terry
Subject: Re: So I watched the debate tonight, and all I could think of....
In reply to: Jenn 's message, "So I watched the debate tonight, and all I could think of...." on 22:00:46 10/02/08 Thu

I fell asleep about the time it became clear she could not win. Tina held her own but no way she won against Biden.

Sometimes years of experience while still being young enough to remember what room you are in comes in handy.

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[> I thought they both did well. -- DizzyDeb, 05:29:44 10/03/08 Fri [1]

However, I did think that Biden looked more credible. That, of course, could be because that ticket is who I will vote for. But I don't have much confidence in a candidate who winks at me through the camera. I was very surprised at that. I know she tries to come off as homey, but I think she tried too hard.

I also saw Tina Fey! LOL


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[> [> Gwen Ifill..... -- scooter, 06:14:56 10/03/08 Fri [1]

I was really disappointed in her. She didn't control the debate, and since when does a candidate announce she's not going to answer the questions as asked? This was supposed to be a debate, not a speech. Supposedly both sides agreed to the terms of the debate, so that ticked me off. Gwen Ifill should have made sure the candidates answered the questions, and called them on it when they didn't.


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[> [> [> but Gwen tied her own hands, Scooter -- Jeannine, 07:24:43 10/03/08 Fri [1]

I agree that she had very little control, but she had to bend over backwards to prove she was neutral. I am sure you know about her upcoming book. She should have disclosed that - and her failure to do so opened the door to that loss of control.


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[> [> [> [> i would be REALLY curious if it were someone that was moderating that -- ozzie, 08:23:43 10/03/08 Fri [1]

had a book about MCCAIN coming out what the dems would say. i thought she did well considering she has a book coming out.


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[> [> [> [> [> The book is about African Americans in politcs. Here's -- LAwoman, 10:58:34 10/03/08 Fri [1]

the description from Amazon:

In THE BREAKTHROUGH, veteran journalist Gwen Ifill surveys the American political landscape, shedding new light on the impact of Barack Obama’s stunning presidential campaign and introducing the emerging young African American politicians forging a bold new path to political power.

Ifill argues that the Black political structure formed during the Civil Rights movement is giving way to a generation of men and women who are the direct beneficiaries of the struggles of the 1960s. She offers incisive, detailed profiles of such prominent leaders as Newark Mayor Cory Booker, Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick, and U.S. Congressman Artur Davis of Alabama, and also covers up-and-coming figures from across the nation. Drawing on interviews with power brokers like Senator Obama, former Secretary of State Colin Powell, Vernon Jordan, the Reverend Jesse Jackson, and many others, as well as her own razor-sharp observations and analysis of such issues as generational conflict and the "black enough" conundrum, Ifill shows why this is a pivotal moment in American history.

THE BREAKTHROUGH is a remarkable look at contemporary politics and an essential foundation for understanding the future of American democracy.


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[> [> [> [> [> yes i know -- ozzie, 11:42:28 10/03/08 Fri [1]


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[> [> [> [> [> [> So the comparison would more accurately be -- LAwoman, 12:03:03 10/03/08 Fri [1]

one would wonder what the dems would do if the moderator had a book coming out about the issues of Caucasian politics. Which sounds like a boring read LOL!


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> yes. i agree with you. i still think the dems would be up in arms if the reverse -- ozzie, 19:19:56 10/03/08 Fri [1]

situation were true. my own opinion.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> If it were truly the reverse situation, I suppose there would -- LAwoman, 21:18:45 10/03/08 Fri [1]

be, in the reverse book on Caucasian political figures, stories on Jefferson, Lincoln, FDR, Reagan, Clinton(s), Bush, McCain etc... as there are in that crappy moderator's book on left and right African American political figures past, present and future.


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[> [> [> [> I was going to post the same thing... -- SB, 09:33:37 10/03/08 Fri [1]

She was in a lose lose situation. If she leans too hard on Palin, she looks too liberally biased. If she doesn't dig to get real answers, she looks like she's *trying* not to look liberally biased. She was 'okay'...Tom Brokaw won't be much better.

I miss Tim Russert.

(BTW, she spoke about her book to the Washington post last month and it was listed on Amazon.com and I believe Random House sites....maybe she thought they already knew about it?)


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[> [> [> The book was no secret... -- scooter, 07:38:46 10/03/08 Fri [1]

so why did the Republicans agree to have her as a moderator if they had questions about her neutrality? And every journalist has an opinion, they are citizens too; but the good ones make an effort to be objective in their reporting. I think she is a good journalist, but she didn't do a good job in the debate. And not to belabor the point, but her books is about black politicians, including right-wing politicians like Michael Steele and J.C. Watts.


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[> [> [> I was disappointed in her too. And as said below, I miss Russert -- LAwoman, 10:59:56 10/03/08 Fri [1]


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[> [> [> [> I'm missin Tim too :( -- jayjay, 17:21:33 10/03/08 Fri [1]


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[> [> dog gone it -- jayjay, 17:15:42 10/03/08 Fri [1]

for a minute she reminded me of Stuart Chandler. gosh poopy darnit.


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