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Date Posted: 09:53:00 09/17/08 Wed
Author: muppetmel
Subject: Last one. Who's minding the website?
In reply to:
muppetmel
's message, "Gif didn't come through, so go to the Vanity Fair website for their ...." on 09:50:33 09/17/08 Wed
August 7, 2008
http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=71601
Obama can't run a website
Barack Obama's official campaign website includes charming forum postings from the candidate's fans along these lines:
Jews should be "burned" and "thrown in the oven."
Israel murdered 6 million Arabs.
Israel is leading a "Holocaust" against Palestinians.
Jews control American politics.
If you're looking to spew anti-Semitic hate, it would seem Obama's official campaign website is your one-stop shop.
While the campaign refuses to discuss these postings found in a casual perusal of the site by WND, it is worth noting that the policy of the website it to remove offensive content once it is brought to the attention of the site's administrators.
This policy raises several questions for me as an Internet entrepreneur and journalist:
I'm not running for president, just running a large news website, but I wouldn't think of publishing the rantings of the public in an un-moderated forum. If I did, I would expect content like the above to find its way onto the site – if not from WND readers, certainly from those who hate WND.
If I were running for president, I can assure you I would have standards at least as high as I do for WND content – meaning it is reckless and irresponsible to an extreme to permit such racist, hate-filled content to be published.
If the Obama campaign is not getting complaints about this content from its supporters, what does that suggest about the character of its fans?
If Obama can't run a website, how can we expect him to serve as commander in chief?
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I dunno... -- SB, 10:49:06 09/17/08 Wed [1]
James Taranto...Jeff Jacoby...Joseph Farah...really? They are all right wing columnists and WND is a very conservative rag. That would kinda be like providing a fact to prove a liberal point with an article/opinion from the Huffington Post. No credibility. (and anyway, are we to believe vile anonymous blogs on a website are interpreted to be 'O'bama's camp'? Since Obama is popular with the Jewish Community-at least in my area-I'd be more apt to believe it was a troll who want people AGAIN to believe Obama is a Muslim. I know that would not occur to anyone who actually reads wnd, but...)
It's now tabloid politics and has been since the RNC. I think it was fairly respectable before that. That's what America seems to like and want. They may as well not even discuss the issues anymore. Just mock outrage at the dirt and whatever he said/she said. Pathetic.
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Umm... -- muppetmel, 10:58:13 09/17/08 Wed [1]
I'd be more apt to believe it was a troll who want people AGAIN to believe Obama is a Muslim.
Why wasn't it taken down?
I know that would not occur to anyone who actually reads wnd, but...
SB, I'm sorry you feel the need to do that. *sigh*
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For those who don't like the sources.... -- muppetmel, 11:00:06 09/17/08 Wed [1]
I'll reiterate the one from Associated Press:
http://www.macleans.ca/world/wire/article.jsp?content=w091227A
Obama mocks McCain as out-of-date computer illiterate in new commercial
September 12, 2008 - 8:02
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
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Most reasonable people know this ad is no worse than McCain's ads.. -- SB, 11:07:33 09/17/08 Wed [1]
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Last time I looked... -- scooter, 11:39:07 09/17/08 Wed [1]
there were worst things than calling someone computer illiterate.
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Feel the need to do what...exactly? -- SB, 11:02:27 09/17/08 Wed [1]
My meaning was simple......to a conservative reader of course they would want to think the worst of Obama.
Jeez Louise.
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Re: Feel the need to do what...exactly? -- muppetmel, 12:23:17 09/17/08 Wed [1]
... kind of like a liberal might think when they read Kos or Huffington.
I'll just remind you what I said very high up on this discussion thread:
Date Posted: 07:29:56 09/17/08 Wed
Author: muppetmel
Subject: Spoken like a true ...
In reply to: scooter 's message, "I have no idea what you're talking about..." on 06:59:30 09/17/08 Wed
... and loyal Obama supporter. Personally, I'm more willing to believe the folks who acknowledge both sides have gotten pretty down and dirty in this campaign.
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Muppy, you know I love you -- Carrie, 14:45:54 09/18/08 Thu [1]
But a lot of the articles you posted were from other people, not officially Obama or anyone in his camp, saying these things about McCain or Pallin. I give you the computer thing, because that came from an actual Obama ad, but the other stuff didn't seem to come from Obama.
As for the message board stuff, wasn't that slinging the same mud that McCain supporters are complaining about? "If Obama can't run a website, how can we expect him to serve as commander in chief?" I don't know if that was you or from the website you were quoting from, but I think it's pretty similar to the "McCain doesn't know how to use a computer" stuff.
I also wouldn't take anything I read on Obama's message board as an indication of how or what his supporters believe. You know how it can be when trolls come around and drag everyone down in the mud with them. Ignoring them might be the best way to handle it-- and not removing the posts might save Obama from claims of censorship.
Neither side is perfect and they both have their good points. As for me, though, I'm voting Obama because I have absolutely no faith in John McCain, especially after his pick for VP. Regardless of anything going on in her personal life, which isn't relevant and people should just shut it about that already, but I would not want her to be so close to the presidency.
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