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Date Posted: 15:00:10 01/26/08 Sat
Author: HF
Subject: He is my least favorite of the candidates.
In reply to: Jeannine 's message, "This confuses me" on 07:27:38 01/26/08 Sat

I think he is a dishonest, racist, power-loving fear monger. He makes my skin crawl and I can't understand how anyone can admire him.

Specifics include essentially stealing from the city of New York, promoting his friends and allies only until they took credit for their own work instead of sharing the spotlight (at which point, he fired them), and lordamerci shoving his political position on 9/11 down my throat.

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[> [> Some information for you -- Terry, 02:57:32 01/28/08 Mon [1]

Mr Zack went on to explain exactly why the firefighters hold Giuliani in such low esteem:

"There were a number of issues over which our firefighters had severe disagreements with the mayor prior to September 11th, and then his actions following that horrific day where he made the decision to pull firefighters off the pile from searching for citizens and firefighters that lost their lives, and he went to a full what we call 'scoop and dump', where he was just taking all what he determined was trash, putting it on a barge and sending it to Fresh Kills landfill. Well that what he called trash contained the remains of thousands of citizens, hundreds of firefighters, and we felt that the families of those people deserved some sort of closure and some sort of dignified recovery process because they were innocent victims."

To this day the remains of hundreds of innocent victims of the September 11 attacks are still sickeningly buried in the world's largest rubbish dump, on Staten Island, where it has been decalred by New York officials that they will stay for ever. Officials, citing financial constraints, have refused to make any concessions and wish to leave those victims to rot in the ground with acres of stinking trash.

Giuliani's official reasoning for this was that he was acting in the interest of safety. The IAFF believes this to be totally false, Jeff Zack commented:

"For him to determine that it was unsafe, OK this actually was the most unstable unsafe destruction area in the history of the Untied States. but for Rudy Giuliani to all of a sudden become concerned, six weeks after the initial accident where hundreds and thousands of people had been coming through and working on that pile for weeks and weeks, all of a sudden he became concerned about the safety of people on that pile? That's disingenuous."

Zack then reiterated the real reason behind Giuliani's action:

"The real reason was that the Bank of Nova Scotia's assets were buried in that rubble, the day they got those assets out of that pile, Rudy shut the pile down, said 'everybody off, we're going to full scoop and dump'... It was gold, it was silver, it was other assets, I've seen a lot of numbers too, I don't have an exact one so I don't wanna give it to you... Our firefighters were on the pile helping excavate the gold as well, our problem is that all Rudy cared about at the end of the day was the gold bricks, not the lives and the memories of those that were the true heroes that day."

At the time, in November 2001, it was reported that $200 million in gold bullion has been recovered from the site. One day later around 50% of firefighters were removed from the job and totally denied access.
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He used city employees (security detail) and a limo paid for by tax payers to ferry his mistress (now his current wife) around town:

http://wcbstv.com/topstories/rudy.giuliani.judith.2.599809.html

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I have to get ready for work but I'll post more later about this piece of work. Like how he has made a fortune off the 9/11 tragedgy (his personal worth has jumped from under 2 million to over 17 million since that day).


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