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Subject: Re: for older baby boomers: phy ed coaches???


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Stan
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Date Posted: 13:21:55 01/11/16 Mon
In reply to: David 's message, "Re: for older baby boomers: phy ed coaches???" on 16:40:16 04/25/15 Sat

David, I'm an older baby boomer. I attended high school in the very early 1960s. Some of my experiences were virtually identical to those you described in your post. I almost wonder if we might have had the same P.E. teacher since we both went to school in L.A.? Or is it just that the job tended to attract men with a predilection for dominating and disciplining teenage boys?

One of my P.E. teachers in high school used a paddle to discipline students. Although I'm not very knowledgeable regarding the various types of paddles, I seem to recall that the coach's paddle was somewhat rounded like a ping-pong paddle. Hardly a gym class went by without at least 2 or 3 boys getting a taste of his paddle. Punitive swats were dished out on the flimsiest of pretexts. And I doubt any boy in my class managed to entirely escape the sting of the coach's paddle.

P.E. was, admittedly, not one of my strong points, but I was a quiet, well-behaved student. So I never expected to have a "close encounter" with the coach's paddle. However, one time, the coach was giving us instruction in wrestling. He told us to put our wrestling partner in a "half-nelson" position. Suddenly, I heard the coach call out my last name. He told me I had put my partner in a "full-nelson" position (I didn't even know what the difference was.) He said my mistake could have caused serious injury to my partner and that I needed to be punished for not following his instructions. He ordered me to stand in front of the class, bend over, and place my hands on my knees. I was a very shy student, and I was already embarrassed by being singled out for punishment, but I worried whether I would be able to take the punishment without crying, which would cause me to lose face in front of my classmates. When his paddle finally struck my ass, it practically knocked the wind out of me. It hurt like hell! Even though I was wearing gym shorts, I was surprised at how painful that swat felt. I had witnessed a lot of other boys receiving swats in the past, but until I had gotten one myself, I had no idea how much it really hurt. I now wonder whether the coach didn't think he'd ever get another opportunity to use his paddle on me so he gave me an exceptionally hard swat to make it memorable (which it was). I'm thankful he only gave me a single swat. I managed to take it in silence. But if he had chosen to give me a half dozen swats in a row, THAT might have reduced me to tears.

There was another guy in my gym class who seemed to get swats with the coach's paddle all the time. He was the "class clown", and he was always horsing around. For example, he would talk to other classmates while the coach was addressing the entire class. This earned him frequent encounters with the paddle, sometimes more than once during a single class period. I even wonder whether he had a masochistic streak in him and had deliberately provoked the coach into using the paddle on him.

One day, that student had already gotten several swats with the coach's paddle when the coach did something that shocked us all. [This is the honest truth. I'm not making it up, even though it seemed almost surreal at the time.] The coach lowered a couple of the gymnastic rings that were suspended from the ceiling. They had been buckled together with a wide black garrison belt. I have no idea why that belt was there. However, I had sometimes seen the coach wearing a wide garrison belt, which was quite a turn-on for me, as I associated garrison belts with masculinity. The coach unbuckled the garrison belt, removed it from the rings, and then doubled the belt over ominously. He then ordered the troublesome student to bend over.

Suddenly, a deathly silence came over the entire class. We "knew" what was going to happen next. The coach then proceeded to give that student several lashes with the garrison belt. I practically "creamed" in my gym shorts as, even at that tender age, I already had fantasies about getting a whipping with a garrison belt. I don't know if I had imagined it, but I seem to recall hearing an audible gasp (of horror) from the entire class in unison each time we heard the terrifying sound of that heavy leather belt striking the student's ass. Were we all thinking the same thought? That one of us might be the next student to get punished with that belt, which, in our minds, was far more to be feared than the paddle. However, I never saw that leather belt being used again for punishment in my gym class. Perhaps, seeing it used that one time had put the "fear of God" into us all.

Years later, long after I had graduated from high school, I was watching the TV news and there was a news segment about my high school. I was surprised to learn from it that my sadistic P.E. teacher was now the boys' vice-principal at the school! I can only speculate what disciplinary measures troublesome boys might have been subjected to in the privacy of the V.P.'s office.

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Edward
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Date Posted: 15:38:12 03/09/16 Wed

>David, I'm an older baby boomer. I attended high
>school in the very early 1960s. Some of my experiences
>were virtually identical to those you described in
>your post. I almost wonder if we might have had the
>same P.E. teacher since we both went to school in
>L.A.? Or is it just that the job tended to attract men
>with a predilection for dominating and disciplining
>teenage boys?
>
>One of my P.E. teachers in high school used a paddle
>to discipline students. Although I'm not very
>knowledgeable regarding the various types of paddles,
>I seem to recall that the coach's paddle was somewhat
>rounded like a ping-pong paddle. Hardly a gym class
>went by without at least 2 or 3 boys getting a taste
>of his paddle. Punitive swats were dished out on the
>flimsiest of pretexts. And I doubt any boy in my class
>managed to entirely escape the sting of the coach's
>paddle.
>
>P.E. was, admittedly, not one of my strong points, but
>I was a quiet, well-behaved student. So I never
>expected to have a "close encounter" with the coach's
>paddle. However, one time, the coach was giving us
>instruction in wrestling. He told us to put our
>wrestling partner in a "half-nelson" position.
>Suddenly, I heard the coach call out my last name. He
>told me I had put my partner in a "full-nelson"
>position (I didn't even know what the difference was.)
> He said my mistake could have caused serious injury
>to my partner and that I needed to be punished for not
>following his instructions. He ordered me to stand in
>front of the class, bend over, and place my hands on
>my knees. I was a very shy student, and I was already
>embarrassed by being singled out for punishment, but I
>worried whether I would be able to take the punishment
>without crying, which would cause me to lose face in
>front of my classmates. When his paddle finally struck
>my ass, it practically knocked the wind out of me. It
>hurt like hell! Even though I was wearing gym shorts,
>I was surprised at how painful that swat felt. I had
>witnessed a lot of other boys receiving swats in the
>past, but until I had gotten one myself, I had no idea
>how much it really hurt. I now wonder whether the
>coach didn't think he'd ever get another opportunity
>to use his paddle on me so he gave me an exceptionally
>hard swat to make it memorable (which it was). I'm
>thankful he only gave me a single swat. I managed to
>take it in silence. But if he had chosen to give me a
>half dozen swats in a row, THAT might have reduced me
>to tears.
>
>There was another guy in my gym class who seemed to
>get swats with the coach's paddle all the time. He was
>the "class clown", and he was always horsing around.
>For example, he would talk to other classmates while
>the coach was addressing the entire class. This earned
>him frequent encounters with the paddle, sometimes
>more than once during a single class period. I even
>wonder whether he had a masochistic streak in him and
>had deliberately provoked the coach into using the
>paddle on him.
>
>One day, that student had already gotten several swats
>with the coach's paddle when the coach did something
>that shocked us all. [This is the honest truth. I'm
>not making it up, even though it seemed almost surreal
>at the time.] The coach lowered a couple of the
>gymnastic rings that were suspended from the ceiling.
>They had been buckled together with a wide black
>garrison belt. I have no idea why that belt was there.
>However, I had sometimes seen the coach wearing a wide
>garrison belt, which was quite a turn-on for me, as I
>associated garrison belts with masculinity. The coach
>unbuckled the garrison belt, removed it from the
>rings, and then doubled the belt over ominously. He
>then ordered the troublesome student to bend over.
>
>Suddenly, a deathly silence came over the entire
>class. We "knew" what was going to happen next. The
>coach then proceeded to give that student several
>lashes with the garrison belt. I practically "creamed"
>in my gym shorts as, even at that tender age, I
>already had fantasies about getting a whipping with a
>garrison belt. I don't know if I had imagined it, but
>I seem to recall hearing an audible gasp (of horror)
>from the entire class in unison each time we heard the
>terrifying sound of that heavy leather belt striking
>the student's ass. Were we all thinking the same
>thought? That one of us might be the next student to
>get punished with that belt, which, in our minds, was
>far more to be feared than the paddle. However, I
>never saw that leather belt being used again for
>punishment in my gym class. Perhaps, seeing it used
>that one time had put the "fear of God" into us all.
>
>Years later, long after I had graduated from high
>school, I was watching the TV news and there was a
>news segment about my high school. I was surprised to
>learn from it that my sadistic P.E. teacher was now
>the boys' vice-principal at the school! I can only
>speculate what disciplinary measures troublesome boys
>might have been subjected to in the privacy of the
>V.P.'s office.


I was paddled by the coach as were my team mates It was very common in my era and part ofthe counrty.We were paddled on the bare butt and it hurt and it might well be in front of other temamates or it might be in his office. In any case I saw guys cry and I will admit i cryed as much as I did not want to-- I also heard the typical spank-pleading as I did myself-- at ages 16 or 17. I even saw a big strong guy and a great football player pee down his own leg when he was getting it. As I look back that kind of stuff--It was too much.I like the other guys just took it as it was so accepted== but I hope we have come further in the last generation. It was just too harsh. We got itfrom our coach but other teachers-- (even some small women) taught with excellent discipline and never raised a hand to us. I am not going to go out and join non spanking groups-- or make a big deal but since this poll is here I just wanted to voice my opinion. May I ask one question-- how many guys who got public paddlings wherein they either cryed in front of teammates or were reduced to childlike pleas (or peed)-- would endorse this for their sons? It is my guess that guys who were really humiliated would not be for spanking.

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