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THE LIVING LOVE FORUM
Welcome to the Living Love Forum. This is a place to discuss the Methods of the Science of Happiness. It was created by Ken Keyes Jr. in 1972 when he published the Handbook to Higher Consciousness. Feel free to ask any questions or share any comments or advice that pertains to this system of consciousness growth. ~ Loving More, Demanding Less ~
The Living Love Home Study Course
boulder -- eliz in boulder, 14:10:31 11/22/09 Sun [1]

i'm looking for any folks in boulder who do this; can anyone connect me with someone who does ?
also i'm looking for a coach in this, someone experienced who has been doing this for 20+ years.
thanks
eliz

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GETTING HANDBOOKS SENT FROM THE U.S. TO AUSTRALIA -- Annapurna (Hopeful...heheh....), 14:42:17 08/13/09 Thu [1]

Hello lovers,

I'm currently an (almost) retired psychotherapist working in Australia, and I was in Cornucopia for a magnificent year in the late 70's with my young daughter.

These methods never get old, and I have some people whom I am currently teaching the methods, but I don't want to give away my precious copy of the Handbook.

I have found some second hand "Handbooks" on Amazon, but they are private people who do not ship to Australia. Is there anyone out there to whom I could have them sent, who would then forward them to me? I think it is time I did some workshops also, as a community offering, as the level of psychic pressure in our current world situation seems to beg some concrete help.

I have heard (true or untrue?) that there is quite a bit of mail stealing in the U.S., so it might be someone with a post office box?

I will be so grateful if someone could please help.

Yours in Living Love.

Annapurna

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[> Re: GETTING HANDBOOKS SENT FROM THE U.S. TO AUSTRALIA -- Babaluie, 10:27:41 08/17/09 Mon [1]

Hi Annapurna,My name is Bob Babaluie. I'm the creator of this site.If you send me mailing info at my e-mail address I might be able to help you get a copy of the Handbook. The addy is babaluie@webtv.net Be sure to put Living Love in the subject header so it does not get deleted as spam.Sorry for late reply. I support you in your efforts spread the Living Love message. Feel free to share yor insights and experiences at Cornucopia. ~Babaluie

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Living Love Method Facilitators in Vancouver, B.C.? -- Kathie (Peacefully hopeful), 10:03:20 06/06/09 Sat [1]

After giving away my Handbook a decade ago, and trying to order another and ending up with the Workbook, realizing the profundity of all that and now wondering how to find a group to learn the Method with in my area.

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[> Re: Living Love Method Facilitators in Vancouver, B.C.? -- Babaluie (Peaceful easy feeling), 13:03:38 06/07/09 Sun [1]

Hi Kathie,It's great to share the Handbook with people, but the next time you get one, hang on to it, as they are getting harder to come by. ;-) If you can't find one, e-mail me at my contact address listed on the home page. Please put Living Love in the subject heading.The concise commentaries on the Pathways on the homepage are extracts from the Handbook and should be helpful untill you find a Handbook.For information about contacts in your area I would try Roedy Green at roedy@shaw.ca He is a long time Living Lover and was good friends with Ken. He is in B.C. and may know of local people. His website http://mindprod.com/livinglove/livinglove.html has a contact list and I think you may have luck there.You can also start your own group if you like. I have ideas and materials to help with that if you're interested. The Living Love Way is very profound and transformative. The more you use the Methods the more they work. If you would like to dialogue on this forumit would be fun. Thank you and good luck finding/starting a group. Let me know how it goes. ~ B.

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Renovating the old building -- Jim Eberhardt (majestically exquisite), 21:16:16 05/30/09 Sat [1]

Thinking of renovating the coos bay center building and starting a new "higher consciousness" center---is there anyone out there interested in participating? - finacially or as an instructor??? Doing a "Balancing" (PSYCH-K) tomorrow in the park and at the site for this project.

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[> Re: Renovating the old building -- Babaluie (Cornucopic :-)), 11:14:52 05/31/09 Sun [1]

Hi Jim,
I'm happy and amazed that you set your sights high. You are welcome to use this Board to cast your net and see what you can catch. I can offer you my best wishes and any ideas I may come up with. If you would like to share any of your experiences at The Center and/or with the Methods that would be great. Thanks for keeping Living Love alive. ~ Babaluie

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New finding -- sault (interested), 07:40:15 05/10/09 Sun [3]

As I've been struggling lately with my own happiness, I keep going through the motions of work, housework, yardwork, and then more work. I'm also planning my wedding, which yes, is stressful, but should be joyful too, shouldn't it? So, I haven't been able to snap out of it and then this morning a book has "fallen", "been knocked down by one of the cats", "appeared" in my view. A yellow book entitled "Prescriptions for Happiness". I don't know where I got this book, how it found its way into my collection, or how it ended up sitting there trying to get my attention. But it did, and I will begin reading through it today. I live in Oregon and googled Ken thinking I could head over to Coos Bay. Sigh. I guess it's better to be late than never show up, right? Thanks for the forum.

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[> Re: New finding -- No name, 12:16:04 05/12/09 Tue [1]

HI,I'm glad you made it here to the forum. I am on my way to work now so I will post a longer note tonight. It can indeed be stressful planning a marriage and being married too.;-) I will post the text of "Your Hearts Desire: A Loving Relationship." By Ken Keyes Jr., soon as a wedding present to you. Ken is gone and the school is too but you can find most of his books on Amazon. And there is enough of the system on this site to give you a good foundation to start with. You can breath in the word "Living" and breath out the word "Love" over and over as a sort of mantra to soothe jangled nerves. Itworks for me! More later. ~ Babaluie

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[> [> Re: New finding -- elijah, 08:03:39 05/13/09 Wed [1]

>HI,I'm glad you made it here to the forum. I am on my
>way to work now so I will post a longer note tonight.
>It can indeed be stressful planning a marriage and
>being married too.;-) I will post the text of "Your
>Hearts Desire: A Loving Relationship." By Ken Keyes
>Jr., soon as a wedding present to you. Ken is gone and
>the school is too but you can find most of his books
>on Amazon. And there is enough of the system on this
>site to give you a good foundation to start with. You
>can breath in the word "Living" and breath out the
>word "Love" over and over as a sort of mantra to
>soothe jangled nerves. Itworks for me! More later. ~
>Babaluie

Babaluie, Thank you for putting together this sight. I was just introduced to ken Keys Jr books a few days ago. I am on my second reading of Higher Consciousness and have enjoyed this methodology. I know that the school is no longer running but is there a way for people to become certified in teaching these methods, I would like to learn and apply these methods in my consulting/ministerial practice, any advice would help thanks.

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[> [> [> Re: New finding -- Babaluie, 19:46:25 05/13/09 Wed [1]

Hi Elijah,Thank you for your kind words. The Handbook is great and it will inform and inspire with many readings. I myself wanted to take teacher training but it was not to be. At this time I know of no way to get certified but that should not discourage you from learning the methods and sharing them with others. But there is one caveat. I do not think that one could charge for any service that one provides using these methods, if one does not have certification. I know this because Ken was very determined that the people he certified had passed his demanding standards and were using the methods in their own lives to a high degree. And it took many workshops before one was certified. But I think you can benefit from this system's methods in your work of helping others. So, to that end, I highly recommend in addition to the Handbook, reading "How to Enjoy Your Life,Inspite of It All". It devotes an entire chapter to each Pathway and is a classic in it's own right. I also suggest getting "Gathering Power Through Insight and Love". It presents the whole system as it was taught at the Ken Keyes Center. There are DVDs of workshops available at www.happinessmall.com costing around $12 each. I have not done business with them but I think they are legit and I do have a lot of the workshops on VHS and they are excellent. I also recommend reading "Discovering the Secrets of Happiness" by Ken, where tells his life story and how he created the Methods. Very inspiring! You will have to find these books on Amazon as they are out of print.But they are worth having. Please keep posting and keep me informed how it goes with you. P.S. If you do reply to a post, it helps if you delete the post you are repling to, so the board doesn't get cluttered up.~ Thanks ~Babaluie

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Ken -- No name, 16:59:43 02/17/09 Tue [1]

Hi,
I was with Ken in Berkley CA. Have been out of touch. Is Ken still with us or has he gone on?
Thanks,
Coleen

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[> Re: Ken -- Babaluie, 00:41:22 02/18/09 Wed [1]

Hi Coleen,Ken passed away Dec. 20, 1995 in Coos Bay, Or.You can read his obituary at Roedy's site.http://mindprod.com/lovinglove/obit.htmlIf you like, please feel free to share what you remember of your time with Ken.~ Bob Babaluie

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Ken's Book: "Enjoy your life in spite of it all" -- No name, 07:13:36 02/16/09 Mon [1]

I've just started to read Ken's book "Enjoy your life in Spite of it all", although I have had the book sitting on my shelf at home for well over ten years!! I have dipped into it previously but found it quite 'heavy' going so would put the book back. However, I am now reading it with new insight and it really does make sense.

I'm just wondering if any workshops or meetings are held in England, specifically in London and if there is a way to get hold of other books written by Ken Keyes.

Thanks.

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[> Re: Ken's Book: "Enjoy your life in spite of it all" -- Babaluie, 10:34:36 02/16/09 Mon [1]

Hi there,"How to Enjoy your life" is an excellent companion to "The Handbook to Higher Consciousness." The best place to find Ken's books are on Amazon. They are out of print now. The person to talk to about workshops is Andrew, he lives in England and had a great L.L. web site. It is not happening at present. His e-mail is inossence@aol.com He might be able to help you with books too. Please post whenever you like. ~Babaluie

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Welcome! -- Babaluie, 00:20:05 03/26/08 Wed [5]

Greetings to all.This is a newly created forum to share and learn from the methods of the Science of Happiness. We are on a first name basis here. There is no need for last names and E-mail addresses are definetly not required. (Handles are cool.) The main thing is to to have fun in a safe environment. If you are working on yourself using the methods taught by Ken, please feel free to share your process. But remember that this is a public forum so use discretion in what you share with all.If you want to tell us of your finding the Handbook or of taking a workshop at Coos Bay, Berkeley or Cornucopia in Kentucky that would be wonderful. The methods are still as viable today as they were 36 years ago. And maybe needed even more!One last note; Thank you to everyone that contributed tothe previous Forum. I lost my password and was unable to remove unwanted spam. That will not happen again.All Ways Us Living Love ( AWULL )

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[> Are there any of us left? -- Frank, 23:27:34 04/09/08 Wed [1]

Hello.

I attended several workshops in Coos Bay and went to the vision center in Bellflower with Ray and Marty. I miss all the loving energy and I am wondering if anyone is still doing workshops or meetings based on the living love principals. I would like to connect with others who still do anything with the living love methods. I live in southern California near Riverside.

Frank




>Greetings to all.This is a newly created forum to
>share and learn from the methods of the Science of
>Happiness. We are on a first name basis here. There is
>no need for last names and E-mail addresses are
>definetly not required. (Handles are cool.) The main
>thing is to to have fun in a safe environment. If you
>are working on yourself using the methods taught by
>Ken, please feel free to share your process. But
>remember that this is a public forum so use discretion
>in what you share with all.If you want to tell us of
>your finding the Handbook or of taking a workshop at
>Coos Bay, Berkeley or Cornucopia in Kentucky that
>would be wonderful. The methods are still as viable
>today as they were 36 years ago. And maybe needed even
>more!One last note; Thank you to everyone that
>contributed tothe previous Forum. I lost my password
>and was unable to remove unwanted spam. That will not
>happen again.All Ways Us Living Love ( AWULL )

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[> [> Re: Are there any of us left? -- Babaluie, 20:22:12 04/10/08 Thu [1]

Hi Frank,Thanks for dropping by. You are in luck. Ed Smith gives workshops in southern California, and you may contact him by going to his website: www.insightandlove.comHe also offers DVD's and CD's of Ken's workshops at his site. He will be giving a free workshop in England in September and you can learn more about it at Andrew's Inossence Page: http://members.aol.com/inossence/index.htmlIt is linked on my Living Love home page.Andrew's site has a contact list and is a great place to connect with Living Lovers. You may like to sumbmit a bit about yourself to his quarterly Readers News.And please keep coming back and help start an active on-line community of Living Lovers. AWULL ~ Bob Babaluie

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[> Re: Welcome! -- Airek, 16:54:16 08/23/08 Sat [1]

Hi,
20 years ago I was in therapy and I mentioned having tried self help books and the therapist suggested Keyes book. I didn't stick with that therapist, but I got the book. I keep coming back to it in times of stress and find the approach helps me "get a grip" on reality.

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[> [> Re: Welcome! -- Babaluie, 23:59:01 08/24/08 Sun [1]

> Hi,>20 years ago I was in therapy and I mentioned having>tried self help books and the therapist suggested>Keyes book. I didn't stick with that therapist, but I>got the book. I keep coming back to it in times of>stress and find the approach helps me "get a grip" on>reality.Hi Airek,Ken's books have helped many people with stressful situations and in regular everyday living also. It's a matter of remembering to use the pathways and methods as soon as possible. And you can't really lose, because the stressful situation may or may not change in the moment, no matter how much effort you put into changing it, but you can always put a little energy into changing your internal head space. If you can ever get a copy of "How to enjoy your life, inspite of it all" it will be of great benifite to you because of the many profound insights into each of the 12 Pathways it provides.Please feel free to post here as often as you like.~Babaluie

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[> Re: Welcome! -- No name, 11:07:55 01/29/09 Thu [1]

Hi All, I would just like to make a suggestion. If you would delete the text of the message you are replying to, that will help keep the page from filling up with too much text. But it is OK to reply to individual lines. Thanks ~Babaluie

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Happiness -- Natalie, 22:45:12 04/27/08 Sun [4]

I attended a workshop in San Diego about 35 years ago. This was a life transforming weekend for me. I have several of Kens books and try to live in the Living Love way. I would love to hear from anyone of like views. I aM currently livine in HILO HI

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[> Re: Happiness -- No name, 00:36:12 04/29/08 Tue [1]

Hi Natalie,Thanks for checking out the site. The best place to connect with people who attended workshops is at Andrew's site linked on my Homepage. It is a wonderful site based in England.They are having a free workshop September, led by Ed Smith. He is based in San Diego and will give free workshops on request. His URL is www.insightandlove.com You can also order Music and Workshop CD's and DVD's from his site. You are always welcome to post questions or answer them from your experience. Dew drop in again! ~Babaluie

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[> [> Re: Happiness -- No name, 04:51:40 01/24/09 Sat [1]

Hey B.W.:

Remember why you took "Babaluie" in 1975?

Bob G.

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[> [> [> Re: Happiness -- Babaluie, 01:02:03 01/26/09 Mon [1]

Hi Bob G.I'm not sure what you mean by taking "Babaluie" in "75"It was a nickmname given to me as an infant because "I Love Lucy" was so popular and Ricky used to sing Babalu, which got an uncle calling me that and it stuck.~ Bob

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Living Love is International -- Philcut, 03:53:55 01/06/09 Tue [1]

I recall taking the Living Love course in Pittsburgh around 1974 at a hotel near the airport. There were three or four instructors that used a bus to travel around the country. I drove my van to the meetings and slept in it to save some costs.

Our class was a very good size and had a very good balance of men and women of all ages. I have set up various Holistic sites on the Internet and linked to this Forum at http://philcutrara1.tripod.com/mind.html where you can see a database of over 5,000 sites for growing and living the true way of life.

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Reply -- George, 08:08:16 12/05/08 Fri [1]

thanks Babaluie, very true about the 5th!

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Happy Thanksgiving -- George, 17:03:19 11/26/08 Wed [1]

Even though it seems I am monopolizing the last few messages just wanted to share something that I found profound. An excerpt from the Handbook to share for Thanksgiving -

"The meaning of hear and now is beautifully illustrated by a Zen story of a monk who was being chased by two tigers. He came to the edge of a cliff. He looked back -- the tigers were almost upon him. Noticing a vine leading over the cliff he quickly crawled over the edge and began to let himself down by the vine. Then as he checked below, he saw two tigers waiting for him at the bottom of the cliff. He looked up & observed that two mice were gnawing away at the vine. Just then, he saw a beautiful strawberry within arms reach. He picked it and enjoyed the best tasting strawberry in his whole life!

Although only minutes from death, the monk could enjoy the hear and now.
Our life continually sends us “tigers”–-and it continually sends us “strawberries,”
But do we let ourselves enjoy the strawberries? Or do we use our valuable consciousness worrying about the tigers?

Notice that the monk fully responded to the physical danger in the most intelligent way. He ran from the tigers—and he even scrambled down the cliff while hanging onto a vine. And having done this, he remained fully in the here and now to enjoy whatever life offered him. Although death was only minutes away, he did not let thoughts of the future terrify him. After doing everything he could do, he used his precious consciousness to fully enjoy every moment of his life.

There is a saying. “A coward dies a thousand deaths; a brave man only one.”
For all of us, death is a part of our future. But we do not have to become what the existentialists refer to as the living dead.”

We can always find things we can magnify to threaten our security, sensation, and power addictions. Or we can consciously perform whatever action is needed and then turn our attention to enjoying everything we have to enjoy. And we always have enough to be happy if we are enjoying what we do have and not worrying about what we don’t have.

Happy Thanksgiving!!

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[> Re: Happy Thanksgiving -- No name, 21:53:40 11/26/08 Wed [1]

Thank you George, for the apropos message. It also relects on the fifth Center of Consciousness - Cornucopia. There is a Living Love saying - " Life is perfect for our growth or our enjoyment." Growth when we work on our selves when we don't get what we want, and enjoyment when we emotionally accept what life gives us.I hope we all have a lot of enjoyment this Thanksgiving.AWULL~ Babaluie

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All ways us living love -- George, 19:35:17 11/21/08 Fri [1]

therapist remembered The Handbook always made him feel better back when. I feel a stronger connection and have gotten most of the books. Did anyone take up where Ken left off or is keeping it alive especially near Boulder, Colorado? I think years ago the Unity Church in Boulder had, but they don’t now. b-t-w Andrews site is down - they say permanently.

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[> Re: All ways us living love -- No name, 12:03:28 11/25/08 Tue [1]

Hi George,I'm glad that you found this site. Sorry to hear that Andrew's site is shut down. He put a lot of work into it and it helped a lot of people to stay connected. I will write him and see if it will come back in a new incarnation. I don't know of any groups in Boulder.there is a fellow that gives workshops in Coos Bay, Or.I will find his name and post it. It would be great to have some activity on the Forum, so please post as much as you like. I will post more tonight - Nov 25.~Bob Babaluie

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(cont'd) -- George, 19:57:15 11/21/08 Fri [1]

Being new, found a some videos of Kens called the Science of Happiness on YouTube. Peaceful and easy to watch. I hope to be able memorize the Pathways like Maggie. Know it will take me some time though. I keep them in my wallet and a copy of the Handbook with me whenever possible.

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Practicing Ken methods -- Maggie (Joyful), 12:39:08 09/13/08 Sat [1]

I went to Coos Bay for a week on December 1991. I met there Ken and Penny and the unconditional love envirnonment Ken created there.The experience I had there was awakening. I bought almost all Ken books and I continued until these day practicing the Living Love method.I created for me a walking meditation repiting Ken 12 pathways that helped me mantain balance and wisdom to deal with very difficult situations in my life. I am very excited to know that now other people are recognizing Ken incredible wisdom and that we can share about practicing the Living Love method.

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[> Re: Practicing Ken methods -- Babaluie (Glad), 23:49:19 09/13/08 Sat [1]

Welcome aboard Maggie!Great to hear that you improvise and taylor the Methods to your own specific needs. I do the same. I like walking and saying "Living" on the in-breath and "Love" on the out-breath. There are other inovations I use that I can mention at a later date. If you have others, let us know about them. Stress seems to be a constant these days, but I guess it's always been like that to some degree. Using the the Methods to stay centered helps those around us also.You may like to check out Andrew's site to see if you can recognize anyone from the time you were there.Wishing you the very best and please post as often as you like ~ Babaluie

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new to living love -- Purple Dragon Star (Star of Love), 07:07:22 06/19/08 Thu [2]

My dear girlfriend is sending me a book. She has recomended I read this and I am. Hello to all, love to all.
Purple Dragon Star

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[> Re: new to living love -- Babaluie, 10:09:04 06/24/08 Tue [1]

Hi P. Dragon!After to you read it, tell us what you think about it.I hope it will be very benificial for you.~Babaluie

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Any of us left and why... -- John Hurbon (Lovesharedtoday), 21:45:17 04/15/08 Tue [1]

In a brief few hours at the Northwest YMCA in Tucson, Arizona this past Saturday, April 12th, 2008. I kept a volunteer committment and stayed in "lovesharedtoday" mood/state of mind. Given back more than I could give...played "The Puppy Song" and "If You're Happy and You Know"...Wow, did I know love and it knew me and the people knew love, I saw it, I felt it. The sun echoed its warmth throughout the afternoon and embraced us all in the joyful sights, sounds, smells and holding of hands. Danced the YMCA and the Chicken Dance. Pursuit of happiness ? We caught happiness and laughed right along with it. Any of US left? I have to say so...lovesharedtoday ... a musician from Benson, Arizona...

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