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[> [> Re: Rainbows In The Sky -- No name, 10:50:46 06/29/11 Wed [1]

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Hypnosis is an altered mental state that can be induced in a person and used for mental manipulations. Hypnosis is actually commonly used in society, but often not called so.


The term hypnosis is used in there ways, partly about one specific mental state, partly about methods and procedures to achieve that state in a person, and also mental manipulations of a person in that state.


The hypnotic mental state has the following properties:

- All the attention of a person is directed in one specific direction, and at an object, person or voice situated in that direction.

- The things that the person sees or hears in that specific direction engages the mind of the person so that his attention persists.

- Censorial information about other objects around or things going on in the surroundings is greatly reduced or totally blocked.

- Information sent out from the point of attention is easily perceived by the hypnotized receiver and is easily recorded in memory, including anything told or any type of order given.

- Critical thinking and logical testing of information is shut off so that anything passed into memory is held as true, and any orders given tend to be obeyed automatically.



Methods of producing a hypnotic state in a person are many, but they have something in common:

- The surroundings are arranged so that there are few elements around that passes complicated or disturbing information.

- The hypnotist shows some object that is easily perceived and seen sharply distinguished from the surroundings. The classical example is a watch hanging in a chain, but it can also be the hand of the hypnotist or a technical device like a TV screen.

- The hypnotist does some simple repetitive action with the object while speaking to the person in a structured way.

- The object, action, voice or speach content is of such a kind that they evoke feelins in the resceiver that keeps him attent. The hypnotist try to use his knowledge about the receiver to chose actions that have that effect.

- After some while the person gets into a hypnotic state with the whole of his attention directed towards the object and the voice of the hypnotist.

- Then the hypnotist ceases his action with the object, but keeps speaking in a structured and predetermined way. Now the voice of the hypnotist will be the main point of attention.



While the person is in a hypnotic state the hypnotist can use the state for several purposes, both good and mean:

- He can pass true knowledge, or at least knowledge that the hypnotist regard as true, to ease the process of learning for the recipient.

- He can deceive the recipient with false information to gain undue profit, gain power or simply to do harm.

- He can alleviate symptoms of diseases to make the life of a patient easier, especially symptoms that are heavily connected to mental processes.

- He can enhance the motivation for some task in the recipient, for example the motivation for training, lifestyle changes or cessation of smoking or drinking.

- He can possibly stimulate the immune system and healing processes in a patient and thereby contribute to the treatment of a disease.

- He can enforce own leadership of a person or the leadership of someone he cooperates with, both leadership in business or political leadership.



Hypnosis is no seldom event, it happens all the day in all areas of the society. But most often the person performing hypnosis do not know what he actually does and the recipient do not know that he is being hypnotized.

Teachers, coaches and leaders known for good results usually obtain the result by a behavior that induces a hypnotic state in his audience and uses that state to pass information and motivation in an effective manner.

Successful political leaders or political deceivers tend to use hypnotic techniques to manipulate an audience in ways purposeful for themselves and their movements, with persons like Hitler, Lenin, Stalin, but also Churchill and Roosevelt as remarkable historical examples. Religious mass movements on a national or international scale are most often orchestrated by religious preachers using hypnosis in a systematic way.

The hypnotic techniques used by successful leaders of authoritarian political and religious mass movements have often been under development inside their organisation or an associated organisation for a long time. The techniques have then become standard tools inside these societies. The techniques are systematically passed to new leaders during their education, and often in secrecy for common members of the organization.

At some point in time an especially talented leader decides to gain total control over the religious or political society he belongs to, make his society into a mass movement and thereby also gain control over whole nations and internationally. The leaders of such mass movements are probably well aware that they actually are performing hypnosis with great masses of people as the audience, even though they seldom use the same vocabulary about their techniques as professional psychologists.

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Happiness -- Natalie, 22:45:12 04/27/08 Sun [7]

I attended a workshop in San Diego about 35 years ago. This was a life transforming weekend for me. I have several of Kens books and try to live in the Living Love way. I would love to hear from anyone of like views. I aM currently livine in HILO HI

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[> Re: Happiness -- No name, 00:36:12 04/29/08 Tue [1]

Hi Natalie,Thanks for checking out the site. The best place to connect with people who attended workshops is at Andrew's site linked on my Homepage. It is a wonderful site based in England.They are having a free workshop September, led by Ed Smith. He is based in San Diego and will give free workshops on request. His URL is www.insightandlove.com You can also order Music and Workshop CD's and DVD's from his site. You are always welcome to post questions or answer them from your experience. Dew drop in again! ~Babaluie

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[> [> Re: Happiness -- No name, 04:51:40 01/24/09 Sat [1]

Hey B.W.:

Remember why you took "Babaluie" in 1975?

Bob G.

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[> [> [> Re: Happiness -- Babaluie, 01:02:03 01/26/09 Mon [1]

Hi Bob G.I'm not sure what you mean by taking "Babaluie" in "75"It was a nickmname given to me as an infant because "I Love Lucy" was so popular and Ricky used to sing Babalu, which got an uncle calling me that and it stuck.~ Bob

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[> [> [> [> Re: Happiness -- Babaregi, 11:33:15 04/18/10 Sun [1]

>Hi Bob G.I'm not sure what you mean by taking
>"Babaluie" in "75"It was a nickmname given to me as an
>infant because "I Love Lucy" was so popular and Ricky
>used to sing Babalu, which got an uncle calling me
>that and it stuck.~ Bob

Bob G. is referring to me. We were living at the Berkeley Center and I took on the nickname "Babaregi" to prevent confusion because we were both named Bob. I was the Registrar...registration Bob...Babaregi.

My friend, Yukio (Carey) and I knew an artist, named Marty Johnson, who we arranged to draw the cover to the Handbook. He never was given any credit in the book.

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Happiness -- Babaluie, 11:08:54 04/20/10 Tue [1]

Hi Babaregi,Thank you for clearing that up for me. Mystery solved!I did see credit given for the "Hanbook" cover in oneof the books, maybe it was his autobiography. Let me look around and I will cite it when I find it.Thanks for posting, Drop a line anytime.~ Babaluie

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Happiness -- Shari, 20:10:43 11/02/15 Mon [1]

Bob (babaregi) - are you still there? Happened across this and wanted to say hi. Please let me know. Love, Shari (Boubala)

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st. marys kentucky -- james (content), 11:09:11 12/08/09 Tue [2]

i was at the living love center in kentucky for about 4 months in the late 70's
I am looking for rita a beautiful person. I have pictures I will post later.


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[> Re: st. marys kentucky -- No name, 15:52:46 09/15/14 Mon [1]

>i was at the living love center in kentucky for about
>4 months in the late 70's
>I am looking for rita a beautiful person. I have
>pictures I will post later.
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I would also like to find a wonderful Rita I met in CA in 1976. Might be the same person.

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[> [> Re: st. marys kentucky -- No name, 15:54:35 09/15/14 Mon [1]

>>i was at the living love center in kentucky for about
>>4 months in the late 70's
>>I am looking for rita a beautiful person. I have
>>pictures I will post later.
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>>James
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>I would also like to find a wonderful Rita I met in CA
>in 1976. Might be the same person.
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>David

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Making contact with the aware -- James Michael Stuart (Aware), 10:03:29 06/30/14 Mon [1]

The whole world needs what Ken taught and practiced. I want to hook up with "old hippies" who were taught by Ken and know that they do not know, are aware, can still learn new things and want to go back to school, somewhere. James Stuart, Esq., jamesstuartgina@yahoo.com.

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[> Re: LOVING COMMUNITY -- James Michael Stuart (JOYFUL AND AWARE), 09:57:05 06/30/14 Mon [1]

>WELCOME HOME AT COLORADO COUNTRY FARM RETREAT NEAR
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Cornucopia Relationships workshop 1978 -- Sun~Rose, 21:54:44 12/17/12 Mon [2]

Dear Bob and EveryOne,

Does anyone have/know where to get the cassettes of the Relationships workshop? I suddenly have a strong yen to listen to it.

Thanks!
Sun~Rose

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[> Re: Cornucopia Relationships workshop 1978 -- Bob Babaluie, 19:21:42 12/19/12 Wed [1]

Hi Sun~Rose, Thanks for writing. Seeing your wonderful name made everything just a little bit more Cheerier! In regards to your question I think the way to go is to visit Brother Paul's (a.k.a. Ed Smith) site. It is: www.livingloveministry.org He has a lot of the workshops available for order on DVD and CD format. They are now also for free download but a donation is always welcome. I don't think he has any that go back that far as he was mainly at the Coos Bay Center. But I'm sure he has Relationship Workshops with Ken and Penny and other trainers too. I bought all the DVD workshops to replace my aging VHS tapes and they came nicely packaged and were very affordable. I highly recommend them. I plan on ordering all the CD workshops this year. Thinking about it now I do think he has CD's that go back to the Cornucopia days as some of my audio cassettes are from that era. Let us know what happens and please drop again. All WAYS US LIVING LOVE (AWULL) ~Bob Babaluie

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[> [> Re: Cornucopia Relationships workshop 1978 -- Sun~Rose, 15:16:20 11/10/13 Sun [1]

Sorry to take so long to get back again. I know I must have the tapes somewhere! Thank You for the help. I just have a yen to hear everyone's voice, especially my Mother's if she shared. It was such a wonderful week, and we still have the painting Free Spirit gave my Mother (which just thrilled her!). I can still feel her happiness.

It is a wonderful name, a gift from Jesus.

Love,
Sun~Rose

>Hi Sun~Rose, Thanks for writing. Seeing your wonderful
>name made everything just a little bit more Cheerier!
>In regards to your question I think the way to go is
>to visit Brother Paul's (a.k.a. Ed Smith) site. It is:
>www.livingloveministry.org He has a lot of the
>workshops available for order on DVD and CD format.
>They are now also for free download but a donation is
>always welcome. I don't think he has any that go back
>that far as he was mainly at the Coos Bay Center. But
>I'm sure he has Relationship Workshops with Ken and
>Penny and other trainers too. I bought all the DVD
>workshops to replace my aging VHS tapes and they came
>nicely packaged and were very affordable. I highly
>recommend them. I plan on ordering all the CD
>workshops this year. Thinking about it now I do think
>he has CD's that go back to the Cornucopia days as
>some of my audio cassettes are from that era. Let us
>know what happens and please drop again. All WAYS US
>LIVING LOVE (AWULL) ~Bob Babaluie

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Hello Universe -- David L., 06:51:56 04/09/13 Tue [6]

Money Penny are you out there?

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[> Hello Universe -- No name, 06:54:29 04/09/13 Tue [1]

Hello to all Living Lovers. The Methods work if you do. :)

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[> [> Re: Hello Universe -- No name, 05:24:33 04/17/13 Wed [1]

Hey James Bob / Jim Bob / Babaluie - I see you are a regular poster here. I'm a L.L. going back to 1977 - missed the real early days in Berkley but picked it up on road trips and Cornucopia and then at the KKC. Spent 3 months at Cornucopia in the summer of 1978 and then several stays in Coos Bay during the 1980's. How's about you? Perhaps our paths have crossed on the physical plane?

David

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[> [> [> Re: Hello Universe -- Bob Babaluie, 19:57:39 04/17/13 Wed [1]

Hi David, Bob Babaluie here, I was just goofing with the Bob...James Bob joke, in reply to the Miss Money Penny comment made by someone. Babaluie is a kickname given to me when I was one years old. Evidently, I would go wild when Ricky Ricardo sang Babaluu on "I love Lucy", and the name stuck. Glad to hear from a long time Living Lover. I first read the Handbook in "74" when I was 15 years old. It was a life saver for me and life changer.
Though I never made it to see Ken, I was on the mailing list for years. My wife and I planned to do a long retreat at the Coos Bay Center in the early 90's but something came up and we couldn't make it. So, we did the next best thing and ordered all the video workshops and audio cassettes. After Ken passed away and the books went out of print I created this site in 1998. I try to check out the Forum everyday to see if someone has posted but sometimes I forget for a day or two, and wouldn't you know it, that is when someone posts. ;-)
I've been thinking I might start blogging my experiences and thoughts about the Living Love Methods. It might prime the pump, so to speak. I usually just reply if someone asks something. I am seeing the Living Love Way more and more as a Life Line for our stressed out Planet. It doesn't have to be just L.L., but anything that promotes sane and harmonious living. But still, this is a site dedicated to the Science of Happiness, so I guess it would be best to stay on topic. :-) If you want to share your thoughts on the Forum that would be supper. Yours in Living Love. ~Bob

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[> [> [> Re: Hello Universe -- Sun~Rose, 15:04:41 11/10/13 Sun [1]

>Hello David,

My Mom, Kids, and I were at the great relationships workshop in the fall of 1978 that Debbie with the twin baby girls led. My gosh, those babies were 35 in September! Loved that string process and everything else.

Sun~Rose


Hey James Bob / Jim Bob / Babaluie - I see you are a
>regular poster here. I'm a L.L. going back to 1977 -
>missed the real early days in Berkley but picked it up
>on road trips and Cornucopia and then at the KKC.
>Spent 3 months at Cornucopia in the summer of 1978 and
>then several stays in Coos Bay during the 1980's.
>How's about you? Perhaps our paths have crossed on
>the physical plane?
>
>David

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[> Re: Hello Universe -- Babaluie, 22:16:38 04/09/13 Tue [1]

The name's Bob...James Bob. ;-)And yes, the Methods work if we do. But sometimes a lot of work is needed. I try to say the Pathways everyday and be aware of the Centers of Consciousness moment to moment.And there is all of the 2-4-4 system that can be utilized if we want to really work.;-) Thanks for checking in David. Maybe we can chat some more. AWULL ~ Bob Babaluie

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[> Re: Hello Universe -- Andrew Pirrie (Living Love), 08:58:03 05/08/13 Wed [1]

Hi David. I too go back with Living Love to 1977. I live in the UK and still say the 12 Pathways daily and change centers as I need to. I am 78 now and Living Love will always be with you. Thank you Ken.

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Lazy Man's Guide to Enlightenment -- Babaluie, 00:30:34 07/01/10 Thu [3]

Hi All,

I'm posting these quotes as useful phrases to be used as needed. They come from "The Lazy Man's Guide to Enlightenment" by Thaddeus Golas, published in 1972. It's possible Ken read it prior to creating the Science of Happiness. Even if he didn't, the book is fun and in sync with Living Love. Reading it is like taking a journey back to the 60's. They are a selection of reminders from the text, from the last chapter, "Even Lazier." They will be in brackets to separate each of them. And here we go:
{ We are equal beings and the universe is our relations with each other. } { What am I doing on a level of consciousness where this is real? }
{ No resistance. } { Love it the way it is. } { Love as much as you can from wherever you are. } { Whether I am conscious of it or not, I am one with the cause of all that exists. } { Whether I feel it or not, I am one with all the love in the universe. } { Love is the only dimension that needs to be changed. } { Go beyond reason to love: it is safe. It is the only safety. } { All states of consciousness are available right now. }
{ It's always within us to relate this way. }
{ Enlightenment dosen't care how you get there. }
{ Whatever you are doing, love yourself for doing it. }
{ There is nothing you need to do first in order to be enlightened. } { This, too, can be experienced with a completely expanded awareness. } { I wouldn't deny this experience to the One Mind. } { What did you think it "was" that needed to be loved? } { When you learn to love hell, you will be in heaven. } { Thank you, brothers and sisters, for letting my consciousness be in this place.}
If you enjoyed them, check out the book.~AWULL~ Babaluie

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[> Re: Lazy Man's Guide to Enlightenment -- Babaluie, 00:11:49 08/11/12 Sat [1]

Hi, I think these are so helpful I'm bumping them back to the top of the list so we can have a second look at them. AWULL~ Bob Babaluie

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[> [> Re: Lazy Man's Guide to Enlightenment -- No name, 08:59:38 06/05/13 Wed [1]

Ditto.

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[> Re: Lazy Man's Guide to Enlightenment -- Tanya (Thank you for sharing :-)), 09:07:43 10/15/13 Tue [1]

>Hi All,
>
>I'm posting these quotes as useful phrases to be used
>as needed. They come from "The Lazy Man's Guide to
>Enlightenment" by Thaddeus Golas, published in 1972.
>It's possible Ken read it prior to creating the
>Science of Happiness. Even if he didn't, the book is
>fun and in sync with Living Love. Reading it is like
>taking a journey back to the 60's. They are a
>selection of reminders from the text, from the last
>chapter, "Even Lazier." They will be in brackets to
>separate each of them. And here we go:
> { We are equal beings and the universe is our
>relations with each other. } { What am I doing on a
>level of consciousness where this is real? }
>{ No resistance. } { Love it the way it is. } { Love
>as much as you can from wherever you are. } { Whether
>I am conscious of it or not, I am one with the cause
>of all that exists. } { Whether I feel it or not, I am
>one with all the love in the universe. } { Love is the
>only dimension that needs to be changed. } { Go beyond
>reason to love: it is safe. It is the only safety. } {
>All states of consciousness are available right now. }
>{ It's always within us to relate this way. }
>{ Enlightenment dosen't care how you get there. }
>{ Whatever you are doing, love yourself for doing it.
>}
>{ There is nothing you need to do first in order to be
>enlightened. } { This, too, can be experienced with a
>completely expanded awareness. } { I wouldn't deny
>this experience to the One Mind. } { What did you
>think it "was" that needed to be loved? } { When you
>learn to love hell, you will be in heaven. } { Thank
>you, brothers and sisters, for letting my
>consciousness be in this place.}
>If you enjoyed them, check out the book.~AWULL~
>Babaluie

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Hi Andrew -- Bob Babaluie (Over Joyed), 12:09:36 05/10/13 Fri [1]

Hi Andrew, It's great to hear from you! I hope all is well with you and yours. I miss your Living Love web page as do many others, I'm sure. I guess it's futile wishing life didn't give us so many opportunities to work on ourselves. ;-) But I still keep wishing. Slow learner.Ha! I do the Methods and Pathways more often now as I am trying to lower my high blood pressure without meds. And trying diet change too. I haven't got around to the exercice part yet. ;-) But if I can't do it then the meds. I do find that saying the L.L. Catalyst "All Ways Us Living Love" in conjunction with the in and out breath to be very calmimg. I will have to hook myself up to a blood pressure device to see if there are objective results. But I did cure myself of ulcers with the Pathways when I was a teenager almost forty years ago.So, it may just work! Well, Andrew, I hope to hear more from you. Bless You. AWULL ~ Bob

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William Lenrz -- Bill Lentz (HAPPY), 13:17:39 04/07/13 Sun [1]

Does anyone know where Bill Lentz is? I am an old friend and use to work with him. My name is Jim Swank and would like to hear from him.
He use to work for The Living Love center in the 70's, so if anyone knows how I can contact him please give Him my email address
Sswanj9124@aol.com or Phone number 281-375-8194. I now live in Texas.

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[> Re: William Lenrz -- Babaluie, 22:02:03 04/09/13 Tue [1]

Hi Jim, You can try Ed at ed@Livinglovesystem.info or you can try Roedy at feedback@mindprod.comYou might want to put "Living Love" in the subject heading. Good Luck to you. ~ Bob Babaluie

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song "I love myself the way I am there's nothing I need to change -- No name, 16:49:23 02/12/13 Tue [1]

Did Ken Keyes or someone associated with him write the song "I love myself the way I am there's nothing I need to change"
Thanx.

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[> Re: song "I love myself the way I am there's nothing I need to change -- No name, 19:18:49 02/12/13 Tue [1]

Hi,The song was written by Jai Michael Josefs and was on the "Carry the Love" album. I believe you can download it for free on Brother Paul's site: www.livingloveministry.org Always Yours, Babaluie

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Welcome! -- Babaluie, 00:20:05 03/26/08 Wed [7]

Greetings to all.This is a newly created forum to share and learn from the methods of the Science of Happiness. We are on a first name basis here. There is no need for last names and E-mail addresses are definetly not required. (Handles are cool.) The main thing is to to have fun in a safe environment. If you are working on yourself using the methods taught by Ken, please feel free to share your process. But remember that this is a public forum so use discretion in what you share with all.If you want to tell us of your finding the Handbook or of taking a workshop at Coos Bay, Berkeley or Cornucopia in Kentucky that would be wonderful. The methods are still as viable today as they were 36 years ago. And maybe needed even more!One last note; Thank you to everyone that contributed tothe previous Forum. I lost my password and was unable to remove unwanted spam. That will not happen again.All Ways Us Living Love ( AWULL )

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[> Are there any of us left? -- Frank, 23:27:34 04/09/08 Wed [1]

Hello.

I attended several workshops in Coos Bay and went to the vision center in Bellflower with Ray and Marty. I miss all the loving energy and I am wondering if anyone is still doing workshops or meetings based on the living love principals. I would like to connect with others who still do anything with the living love methods. I live in southern California near Riverside.

Frank




>Greetings to all.This is a newly created forum to
>share and learn from the methods of the Science of
>Happiness. We are on a first name basis here. There is
>no need for last names and E-mail addresses are
>definetly not required. (Handles are cool.) The main
>thing is to to have fun in a safe environment. If you
>are working on yourself using the methods taught by
>Ken, please feel free to share your process. But
>remember that this is a public forum so use discretion
>in what you share with all.If you want to tell us of
>your finding the Handbook or of taking a workshop at
>Coos Bay, Berkeley or Cornucopia in Kentucky that
>would be wonderful. The methods are still as viable
>today as they were 36 years ago. And maybe needed even
>more!One last note; Thank you to everyone that
>contributed tothe previous Forum. I lost my password
>and was unable to remove unwanted spam. That will not
>happen again.All Ways Us Living Love ( AWULL )

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[> [> Re: Are there any of us left? -- Babaluie, 20:22:12 04/10/08 Thu [1]

Hi Frank,Thanks for dropping by. You are in luck. Ed Smith gives workshops in southern California, and you may contact him by going to his website: www.insightandlove.comHe also offers DVD's and CD's of Ken's workshops at his site. He will be giving a free workshop in England in September and you can learn more about it at Andrew's Inossence Page: <a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://members.aol.com/inossence/index.htmlIt">http://members.aol.com/inossence/index.htmlIt</a> is linked on my Living Love home page.Andrew's site has a contact list and is a great place to connect with Living Lovers. You may like to sumbmit a bit about yourself to his quarterly Readers News.And please keep coming back and help start an active on-line community of Living Lovers. AWULL ~ Bob Babaluie

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[> [> [> Re: Are there any of us left? -- Rich, 09:47:53 08/26/12 Sun [1]

Hi! I've been a student of Ken's books and tapes
I never attended a live workshop. The Handbook
Changed my life forever.

I hooked up with a fellow named Lionel Ketchian
Lionel found Happiness Clubs and interviewed Ken on his radio show. Lionel invited me to present the 12 Pathways at a meeting in Fairfield CT last June

I am helping to share Happiness on Cyber space at
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cyber-Happiness-Club-1">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cyber-Happiness-Club-1</a>

I've done a wide aray of seeking on this. Ken's work was My first and perhaps the most profound influene on me

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[> [> [> [> Re: Cyber Happiness Club -- Bob Babaluie, 08:47:06 09/05/12 Wed [1]

Hi Rich, I am posting the corrected address for the Cyber Happiness Club. It is:htttp://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cyber-Happiness-Club-1/

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[> Re: Welcome! -- Airek, 16:54:16 08/23/08 Sat [1]

Hi,
20 years ago I was in therapy and I mentioned having tried self help books and the therapist suggested Keyes book. I didn't stick with that therapist, but I got the book. I keep coming back to it in times of stress and find the approach helps me "get a grip" on reality.

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[> [> Re: Welcome! -- Babaluie, 23:59:01 08/24/08 Sun [1]

> Hi,>20 years ago I was in therapy and I mentioned having>tried self help books and the therapist suggested>Keyes book. I didn't stick with that therapist, but I>got the book. I keep coming back to it in times of>stress and find the approach helps me "get a grip" on>reality.Hi Airek,Ken's books have helped many people with stressful situations and in regular everyday living also. It's a matter of remembering to use the pathways and methods as soon as possible. And you can't really lose, because the stressful situation may or may not change in the moment, no matter how much effort you put into changing it, but you can always put a little energy into changing your internal head space. If you can ever get a copy of "How to enjoy your life, inspite of it all" it will be of great benifite to you because of the many profound insights into each of the 12 Pathways it provides.Please feel free to post here as often as you like.~Babaluie

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[> Re: Welcome! -- No name, 11:07:55 01/29/09 Thu [1]

Hi All, I would just like to make a suggestion. If you would delete the text of the message you are replying to, that will help keep the page from filling up with too much text. But it is OK to reply to individual lines. Thanks ~Babaluie

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Handbook to Higher Consciousness -- Drew VanDyche (Eureka!), 08:14:23 06/22/12 Fri [1]

I am so thankful to have stumbled upon Ken's book. Where can I find others who can help me with the practice?
Drew in Berkeley, CA

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[> Re: Handbook to Higher Consciousness -- No name, 20:52:36 06/22/12 Fri [1]

Hi Drew,My name is Bob and I'm the creator of this site. There are no on-going groups at this time. But there is enough material still available to learn all you need to put the Living Love System into practice. There are two other books by Ken Keyes Jr. that are essential reading for a full understanding of the Science of Happiness. They are "Gathering Power Through Insight and Love", which presents the System as it was taught at the Ken Keyes Center in Coos Bay Oregon. The System is also known as the 2-4-4 System, after the Two Wisdom Principles, the Four Living Love Methods and the Four Dynamic Processes, which are briefly touched upon on my web site. The other book is "How To Enjoy Your Life In Spite Of It All". This book is a spiritual classic in my opinion. It is all about the 12 Pathways. It devotes a whole chapter to each of the Pathways.The final section titled "Puttting It All Together" gives deep insight into the practice of the Pathways. As all of Ken's books are out of print, the best way to buy them are on Amazon. But they are fairly inexpensive. There is a lot of information and some free downloads of Ken's Workshops at www.lovingloveministry.org You can order all the DVD Workshops amd Music Cd's at the above site at very affordable prices. I was very happy that I did. It is run by Brother Paul and you can find his contact info there. He might be able to help you with advice or instruction. You can also e-mail me at babaluie@webtv.net I'm open to personal communication via e-mail. I'm very happy you found the Handbook. The School had a saying: "The Methods Work, If You Do". And in these crazy times, maybe you even have to double your efforts. I'm saying this as much to myself as to anyone. But do give yourself benefit of the entire System. Like the Twelve Pathways, the System is interlocking and very gracefully designed. I wish you the best.AWULL = All Ways Us Living Love ~BobP.S., If anyone replies to this, please erase the post you are replying to, so that there is not a lot of silly duplication of posts. Thank You ;-)

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I may know you -- bg, 03:33:40 04/22/12 Sun [1]

Hi Bob,

Are you LL babaregi circa early 70's?

Bob G.

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[> Re: I may know you -- Bob Babaluie, 17:53:05 04/22/12 Sun [1]

Hi Bob G,Sorry to say that I am not he. Someone has asked me that before. But maybe Babaregi will see this and say hello. I'm glad you stopped by. If you you would like to share your experiences with L.L., we are all ears. :-)You may also like to post your experiences of your first encounter with the Living Love System at Brother Paul's(a.k.a. Ed Smith) site: <a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.livingloveministry.orgDrop">http://www.livingloveministry.orgDrop</a> by anytime! AWULL ~ Bob

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DVD Workshops with Ken Keyes Jr. -- Bob Babaluie, 10:00:13 09/25/11 Sun [1]

Greetings All,

I'd like to inform everyone that Ed Smith's new site is LivingLoveMinistry.org The old site Happinessmall.com is no longer happening. I encourage everyone who wants to learn more about Living Love to visit his site. While there you can listen to free Music downloads and order DVD and CD Workshops with Ken Keyes Jr. and other great L.L. Teachers. This site is Highly Recommended! AWULL~Bob

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For Hattie Pembrook -- Babaluie, 19:38:29 02/14/11 Mon [1]

Hi Hattie, I'm sorry to inform you that this is not the same "Jai" that you were looking for. You might find him if you do a Google search. Good luck on that. Do stop by again if you like. ~ Babaluie

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[> Re: For Hattie Pembrook -- Vita Schwarz-Goins, 13:06:31 05/13/11 Fri [1]

>Hi Hattie,

Is it possible you might still remember me, Vita Schwarz? Unbelievable that I found this place and you. I hope you're doing well. Many things have changed here; and it's funny that I still remind myself about my "addictive demands" =D Maybe you remember Tony as well. Unfortunately, he died in May, 2000. (A long and sad story) I'm happily remarried; however the "economic crises" has stirred up my addiction cauldron. Please feel free to email me. Sending you love,
~Vita

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Nice to Find This Site - Looking for Trainings / Old Friends -- Christopher Reed, 14:13:09 07/06/10 Tue [5]

Welcome surprise to find this site. I was a residential student at KKC years ago (under the name of Christopher Reed, I've since legally changed my name to Jai Michael). Other students with me included Stephen Tresize, Maria Alvarez, Gretchen, Rachel, Theresa Adams (who went on to become a Trainer herself,) and others.

I'm married (to another man) now and we're both unemployed and the furnace of addictions is getting pretty hot and find myself naturally falling back on the Methods.

I'd love to find some workshop - weekend or longer - to refresh my practice as well as to introduce my husband Justin to the learn-in-a-teaching-setting as learn-by-books system.

Thanks for hosting this site and again I'm glad I found it.

Jai

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[> Re: Nice to Find This Site - Looking for Trainings / Old Friends -- Babaluie (Joyful), 20:14:54 07/06/10 Tue [1]

Hi Jai, I wish you and Justin all the best! There are some good Living Love books on relationships such as "The Power of Unconditional Love" and "Your Hearts Desire: A Loving Relationship." I will be posting "Your Hearts Desire" on the web site in the not to distant future. It's a short text but very powerful. As you may know all of the L.L. books are out of print and have to be had through Amazon or some other online used book outlet. Check the Link on the Home Page. Congratulations Jai! You have just been inducted into Unofficial Living Love Grass Roots Movement. Tag ~ You're it! You're Loving energy will be welcomed.As far as workshops, two possible routes. Ed Smith at www.happinessmall.com He used to give free workshops if you pay his transport and accomadations. The other is Tolly Burkan at www.tollyburkan.com ~ He has weekend workshops in the Ca. Sierras. He was a trainer in the Berkeley Center. If anyone knows of others let us know.I'm sending you good thoughts on the job front. Good Luck! AWULL ~ Babaluie

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[> [> Re: Nice to Find This Site - Looking for Trainings / Old Friends -- No name, 06:46:47 07/10/10 Sat [1]

Hi Babalui,

I'm looking for most of Ken's books in digital format (have the Handbook,) especially the dark purple Relationships book (the one with Carol Thompson Lentz' comments not edited out) and How to Enjoy Your Life In Spite of it All. I am just groaning under overfilled book shelves and I now only read books I can convert for my Kindle. Can you or anyone help?

Thanks,

Jai

PS I've converted your site for the Kindle - it would be nice if you took the online course part and made it available as .pdf because that would be easier to convert but I just will not sit and read a book or anything on my computer screen.

All Ways Us Living Love,


Jai

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[> [> [> Re: Nice to Find This Site - Looking for Trainings / Old Friends -- Babaluie, 13:08:06 07/10/10 Sat [1]


Hi Jai, I am happy you were able to convert the site to Kindle. I have a webtv and it is virtually the stone age as far as applications go. I can't even get a .pdf let alone convert anything into it. If you know how and can post it here that would be great. If you can link a digital "Handbook" here you would have my eternal gratitude! If you can't, that is fine too.
I don't know where to find any digitalized books of Ken's but surely you have room on your shelf for an "Enjoy" and maybe "Gathering Power"? ;-)
Actually, I believe you can download a "Your Life is a Gift" at www.tollyburkan.com as he was co-author with Ken. It was then titled "How to Make Your Life Work." Again, I am glad you downloaded the site to Kindle. I encourage everyone to download the site. There used to be a great site called "Inossence" that was the hub of L.L. on the net by Andrew in England and one morning AOL
dropped their Hometown webpages without notice and that was it. Sad to say, it could happen with Webtv.
Untill Then ~AWULL~ Babaluie

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[> [> [> [> Ken's Ebooks -- No name, 07:03:06 07/11/10 Sun [1]

I've never used webtv but if the trials a customer I'm selling the Seonda Method and Release Technique courses to is going through are any guide, then it really IS stone age. He can't even get MP3 download! I'm going to post a link that has the Handbook in both .pdf file and Kindle format (.ziped together). I don't now how long it will be active so snag your copies soon and then you can email them out to people. I tried converting the Tolle book but because the Kindle doesn't handle the drawings well, the type is virtually invisible to my eyesight. I hate reading dead tree books anymore, but did order a cheap used copy and will eventually scan it in or type it or something.

You know, I paid for the cassettes to tons of Ken's talks and also all the music cassettes, then paid *again* to Ed Smith years and years later and lost many in a hard disk crash. If anyone wants to swap with me what I do have that they don't and what they don't for what I do, I'd be very glad to do that! The books, the tapes are all out of print pretty much and treasures and I think they should be freely made available to as many people who want them now that Ken has passed and left no institution to carry on his work; we're all that he left!

Best,

Jai

URL for the Handbook (beware - it may not be up long!)

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HCVEJG3J">http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HCVEJG3J</a>

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Ken's Ebooks -- Hattie Pembrook (Nostalgic!), 12:13:11 02/13/11 Sun [1]


Hello Jai,

It's been decades, but I do remember YOU. I was the Vision Center person for Michigan and attended some workshops at St.Mary's KY and also Coos Bay.

I do have some 100th Monkeys'. Hope I didn't give 'em to the Goodwill. Not sure, but I will look. Also, I have VHS of some of the Vision Center tapes. Not sure what to do with those either.

I'd love to hear from you. Please email me.

Thanks. Glad you are still around. Hey!!! aren't you Jai Michael Joseps......the songwriter??? Still writing songs?
I'd love to hear from you. Please email me.
"Always Us Living Love." Hattie:-)
****************************************************
>I've never used webtv but if the trials a customer I'm
>selling the Seonda Method and Release Technique
>courses to is going through are any guide, then it
>really IS stone age. He can't even get MP3 download!
>I'm going to post a link that has the Handbook in both
>.pdf file and Kindle format (.ziped together). I don't
>now how long it will be active so snag your copies
>soon and then you can email them out to people. I
>tried converting the Tolle book but because the Kindle
>doesn't handle the drawings well, the type is
>virtually invisible to my eyesight. I hate reading
>dead tree books anymore, but did order a cheap used
>copy and will eventually scan it in or type it or
>something.
>
>You know, I paid for the cassettes to tons of Ken's
>talks and also all the music cassettes, then paid
>*again* to Ed Smith years and years later and lost
>many in a hard disk crash. If anyone wants to swap
>with me what I do have that they don't and what they
>don't for what I do, I'd be very glad to do that! The
>books, the tapes are all out of print pretty much and
>treasures and I think they should be freely made
>available to as many people who want them now that Ken
>has passed and left no institution to carry on his
>work; we're all that he left!
>
>Best,
>
>Jai
>
>URL for the Handbook (beware - it may not be up long!)
>
><a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HCVEJG3J">http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HCVEJG3J</a>

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ALL WAY'S US LIVING LOVE -- CITRINE (JOYFUL), 23:16:19 02/08/11 Tue [1]

Greetings all Living lovers,
I was very lucky to find a copy of Handbook to Higher Consciousness in a 2nd hand book shop, I was definitely guided to find this book and I read at least one section a day.
Thank you all for keeping Ken's philosophies and writing alive and spreading the word.

Love,Light and Oneness
Citrine

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[> Re: ALL WAY'S US LIVING LOVE -- Babaluie, 23:34:19 02/10/11 Thu [1]

Hi Citrine,

That was very nice. It put a smile on my face. :-)
And thank you for keeping it alive too!
~ Bob

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Living Love in Spanish? -- Lorraine Ann Groom, 10:07:31 12/10/10 Fri [1]

Hello Living Lovers everywhere!! I´m so excited to find this site and know that Kens work goes on and on!! Does anyone know if Kens books were translated into Spanish? Living in Spain now and so want to share these teachings!!

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[> Re: Living Love in Spanish? -- Babaluie ( Bob), 10:49:10 12/11/10 Sat [1]

Hi Lorraine,Welcome to the Living Love Forum. It's been slow around here lately, so, thanks for you're post.:-) I'm sorry, but I don't know of any Spanish translationsof Ken's works. I did hear that my web site was being translated into Russian and that someone else was translating the "Handbook" into Czech. You could be the first to translate it into Spanish!;-) But I do encourage you to share the methods any way you can. Individuals working on their own is all there is at this point in time. I started a newsletter (link on the homepage) but have not sent it out as I have no way of hiding the e-mail list from view with my old Webtv system. That would mean I would have to send it out, one at a time to hundreds of people on my e-mail list. Daunting to say the least. But I think that is what it would take to Light a flame of community involvement again. Hopefully I will face the task and do it.:-)Please feel free to post as much as you like. I will try to post more myself. If replying to a post, please erase the letter you are replying to and it won't be repeted endlessly.Thanks. Wishing you the best. ~Babaluie (Bob)

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Thanks -- Rick Curtiss, 08:31:08 06/09/10 Wed [4]

Thanks so much for putting this together. It is nice to know there is still a Living Love community. I look at the other teachings of Zen, Power of Now, Qabala, Bible etc And then come back to Kens system for a concise method of practice that fits my life style. It seems to be summed up right there. It helps keep me centered.

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[> Re: Thanks -- No name, 10:29:09 06/09/10 Wed [1]

Thanks Rick,I also have had a broad interest in spiritual paths but Living Love has been my core practice since 1974 when I was 15 yers old. What I really appreciate about it is that it can be shared with people across all spiritual traditions. And you can use it where ever you are right now in your life.I have been thinking a lot lately that it is time for people that have a connection to these Methods to consider possibly starting small volunteer (no charge) groups to share the Science of Happiness with familiy and friends. It would have to be done with self-responsibilty and pure intent but I believe it can be done. The alternative is that Living Love will eventually fade away :-( and it is far too important for us to let that happen. Anyone interested in the prospect of keeping it alive can e-mail me at babaluie@webtv.net I have Living Love material that I can send to you at no charge if you truly want to do this.You may also want to consider putting my home page URL as a signature on your email to spread Ken's Methods that way. I am also open to all brain-storming ideas. The one thing that I feel strongly about is that it is done voluntarily and free of charge. Only people that were trained by and approved by Ken or the Center have the right to charge for workshops in my opinion.So please share your ideas with me. ~ Bob

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[> [> Re: Thanks -- Rick Curtiss, 18:39:04 06/09/10 Wed [1]

>Thanks Rick,I also have had a broad interest in
>spiritual paths but Living Love has been my core
>practice since 1974 when I was 15 yers old. What I
>really appreciate about it is that it can be shared
>with people across all spiritual traditions. And you
>can use it where ever you are right now in your life.I
>have been thinking a lot lately that it is time for
>people that have a connection to these Methods to
>consider possibly starting small volunteer (no charge)
>groups to share the Science of Happiness with familiy
>and friends. It would have to be done with
>self-responsibilty and pure intent but I believe it
>can be done. The alternative is that Living Love will
>eventually fade away :-( and it is far too important
>for us to let that happen. Anyone interested in the
>prospect of keeping it alive can e-mail me at
>babaluie@webtv.net I have Living Love material that I
>can send to you at no charge if you truly want to do
>this.You may also want to consider putting my home
>page URL as a signature on your email to spread Ken's
>Methods that way. I am also open to all brain-storming
>ideas. The one thing that I feel strongly about is
>that it is done voluntarily and free of charge. Only
>people that were trained by and approved by Ken or the
>Center have the right to charge for workshops in my
>opinion.So please share your ideas with me. ~ Bob


How about someone starting a Center and get people trained?

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[> [> Re: Thanks -- Monika (Xcited! Eager 4 loving friends), 20:41:50 08/11/10 Wed [1]

>Thanks Rick,I also have had a broad interest in
>spiritual paths but Living Love has been my core
>practice since 1974 when I was 15 yers old. What I
>really appreciate about it is that it can be shared
>with people across all spiritual traditions. And you
>can use it where ever you are right now in your life.I
>have been thinking a lot lately that it is time for
>people that have a connection to these Methods to
>consider possibly starting small volunteer (no charge)
>groups to share the Science of Happiness with familiy
>and friends. It would have to be done with
>self-responsibilty and pure intent but I believe it
>can be done. The alternative is that Living Love will
>eventually fade away :-( and it is far too important
>for us to let that happen. Anyone interested in the
>prospect of keeping it alive can e-mail me at
>babaluie@webtv.net I have Living Love material that I
>can send to you at no charge if you truly want to do
>this.You may also want to consider putting my home
>page URL as a signature on your email to spread Ken's
>Methods that way. I am also open to all brain-storming
>ideas. The one thing that I feel strongly about is
>that it is done voluntarily and free of charge. Only
>people that were trained by and approved by Ken or the
>Center have the right to charge for workshops in my
>opinion.So please share your ideas with me. ~ Bob


I completely agree with you! This way of life needs to be shared, especially with those you love. It CANNOT fade into oblivion! I just finished reading the hanbook and i am so excited to implemrnt it into my life. I feel like it's only natural to want to spread this love. I'm planning on buying a few copies for those in my life who i feel would be open to it. Maybe you could help me find Ken Keyes' lecture on the handbook. I'd like to hear it, but more importanly, I'd like to give to a couple of them to people in m life who aren'really readers. Please stay in contact with me. I don't personally know anyone living love yet.

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[> [> [> Re: Thanks -- Monika (Forgetful but happy), 20:45:35 08/11/10 Wed [1]

>>Thanks Rick,I also have had a broad interest in
>>spiritual paths but Living Love has been my core
>>practice since 1974 when I was 15 yers old. What I
>>really appreciate about it is that it can be shared
>>with people across all spiritual traditions. And you
>>can use it where ever you are right now in your life.I
>>have been thinking a lot lately that it is time for
>>people that have a connection to these Methods to
>>consider possibly starting small volunteer (no charge)
>>groups to share the Science of Happiness with familiy
>>and friends. It would have to be done with
>>self-responsibilty and pure intent but I believe it
>>can be done. The alternative is that Living Love will
>>eventually fade away :-( and it is far too important
>>for us to let that happen. Anyone interested in the
>>prospect of keeping it alive can e-mail me at
>>babaluie@webtv.net I have Living Love material that I
>>can send to you at no charge if you truly want to do
>>this.You may also want to consider putting my home
>>page URL as a signature on your email to spread Ken's
>>Methods that way. I am also open to all brain-storming
>>ideas. The one thing that I feel strongly about is
>>that it is done voluntarily and free of charge. Only
>>people that were trained by and approved by Ken or the
>>Center have the right to charge for workshops in my
>>opinion.So please share your ideas with me. ~ Bob
>
>
>I completely agree with you! This way of life needs
>to be shared, especially with those you love. It
>CANNOT fade into oblivion! I just finished reading
>the hanbook and i am so excited to implemrnt it into
>my life. I feel like it's only natural to want to
>spread this love. I'm planning on buying a few
>copies for those in my life who i feel would be open
>to it. Maybe you could help me find Ken Keyes'
>lecture on the handbook. I'd like to hear it, but
>more importanly, I'd like to give to a couple of them
>to people in m life who aren'really readers. Please
>stay in contact with me. I don't personally know
>anyone living love yet.

Hey bob... I forgot to give you my email. Stay in touch. lunamom1@excite.com

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Newbie!!! looking for ken keyes' lectures, any ideas? -- Monika (Excited Eager 4 loving friends), 20:17:34 08/11/10 Wed [1]

Hi! My name is Monika, I,m 27, and I live in Pheonix. I just finished reading the handbookO and am sooo excited about working hard to implement the 12 pathwas and get on my pathway to higher consciousnes. I,d love to have some fellow "love livers" to talk to, so feel free to email me @ lunamom1@excite.com. I'm also looking for audio of his lectures, any help would be so appreciated. Also I,d love to hear ant ad vice on raising chilren the living love way... looking forward to hearing from some of you!

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[> Re: Newbie!!! looking for ken keyes' lectures, any ideas? -- No name, 12:21:16 08/12/10 Thu [1]

Hi Monika, Congratulations on finding the Handbook! The Science of Happiness can provide solutions to every emotional problem that comes up in life. With determination and hard work, every negative, separating emotion can become a welcomed opportunity to reprogramaddictions into preferences. The Third Pathway! Our usual response is fight or flight or avoidance. So, "welcoming" represents quite an advance stage along the path. I'm not there yet, but in the past with intensive work with these Methods, I did come very close to it for extended periods of time and great joy was unleashed in the process. Daily rereading of the "Handbook" is a step on that path. And of course, memorizing the Pathways.Re: Children and Living Love. The chapter in the Handbook is the main statement in the books. Ken sometimes talked about children in the workshop video tapes. On a side note, I was in a park yesterday and heard parents yelling at their kids and wished they could of read the Handbook. Re: Ken's Lectures. The only place I know of is Ed Smith's site www.happinessmall.com I have not used it and therefore can not vouch for it. But you can give it a look-see and get a taste for the type of workshops Ken gave. And there are the Living Love music CD's. "Carry the Love" and "The Oneness Space" are my favorites.I love your enthusiasm and I hope you become an active participant on the Forum. Just a note to all. If you reply to a message, please erase the message you are peplying and there won't be needless repetition. Or you can start a new thread by clicking on the little box on top of the Forum. Sorry, it's not very clear but it is there if you look for it. Thanks~Babaluie (AWULL!)

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Glad I've found you. -- Bill (Happy), 20:58:40 07/05/10 Mon [2]

I found this forum by serendipity and I'm grateful. Despite wandering far and wide down many paths over the years, I had somehow not heard of Ken and his genius creation, Living Love. This is clearly a labor of Love (Is that really a surprise) for you Bob and therefore probably needs no thanks. But thank you! And may his Forum and the various efforts of all of you out there to keep Living Love alive stay energized. This is just a beginning for me, but I expect I am in for the long haul and may eventually be part of the process of sharing my learning with others. In the meantime, I know where to come for direction and inspiration. Bill

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[> Re: Glad I've found you. -- Babaluie (Gratitude), 11:04:31 07/06/10 Tue [1]

Hi Bill,Thank you so much and Welcome aboard! Serendipity is a funny thing indeed. I often reflect on the line from the Beatles song "All You Need Is Love" ( which is a great line in it's self ) ~ "There is nowhere you can be, that isn't where you're to be." I hope you will be here more and more! All Ways Us Living Love (AWULL) ~Babaluie

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[> [> Re: Glad I've found you. -- No name, 11:09:47 07/06/10 Tue [1]

>Hi Bill, "Line Correction. "There>is nowhere you can be, that isn't where you're meant to be." ~B

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Love -- Rick, 07:20:30 06/28/10 Mon [1]

Bingo! Thanks again Bob. Chapters 14 and 15 of How to Enjoy really opened something. It is amazing how we read something many times and don't see how to apply it. I have demanded that people accept and acknowledge my love. I want some feedback or validation. I thought the love was being rejected, so I was closed off. Now I know what unconditional really means. I know what selfishness really is.

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Thic Nhat Hanh & Enjoy -- Rick Curtiss (Joyful), 06:57:29 06/23/10 Wed [1]

Yes, Thich Nhat Hanh is very comforting. I have the CD "Meditations on the Present Moment."

Thanks so much for recommending How to Enjoy. And Ken did address the question I had originally about too much rational mind activity in the techniques. He said that the pathways eventually address the more subtle, intuitive level of your being. I think he was referring to the being beyond thought when he said "finer energies." And there are many other examples in his writings. Also, you could tell by his presence (I saw a couple of tapes).

I was very disappointed in Taming the Mind. For me anyway. But I can see that society in general really needs it.

I will focus on the 1st 2 methods now. They seem to cover it all. The other methods just appear to be different ways of applying the first 2. I guess when you are teaching you will run into some difficult situations.

Later

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[> Re: Thic Nhat Hanh & Enjoy -- Babaluie, 00:53:25 06/24/10 Thu [1]

Hi Rick,Re:Taming Your Mind, I agree that it is not a great book (sorry Ken) but it was written 25 years before the Handbook and in the last edition Ken himself said in the preface that the ideas he presented would not bring lasting happiness. But he thought the ideas were still valid for developing critical thinking.Re:The first two Methods. They are the core practice. But with time you will want to expand into the the other Methods and Processes. The more tools in your workbox the better. The third Method of linking separating emotions with your demand is a key insight practice. Ken said that after many years of doing the Pathways and other Methods, "Linking" became his main practice and he could up-level an addictive demand to a preference in seconds with just that. So, the Pinpointing Addictive Demands Form is very important to memorize:"I create the experience of___(separating__emotions)___because my programming demands that ____(what you want)__."It's also the First Wisdom Principle. I say the short form of the 1st Wisdom Priniple ~ "Addictions are the immediate practical cause of suffering" to myself many times throughout the day. It's almost like another Pathway for me. Ken explained it this way; Addictions are "immediate" because they are directly between the external stimulus (what is) and the internal emotional response. They are "practical" because you can do something about them. This form is pithy and I can recall it quickly, like when I burned the roof of my mouth at lunch today...AWULL ~ Bob

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Shunya -- Terry Seale, 09:27:17 06/07/10 Mon [2]

I was deeply moved by Shunya at a Living Love weekend in Phila, around 30 years ago.
Does anyone remember Shunya or know how I could contact him now?
I want him to know how much he affected my spiritual life.
I believe his name is Mark Freeman and he may be in Arizona, but I can't find him and am not sure.
Thanks and love.

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[> Re: Shunya -- Babaluie, 11:32:24 06/07/10 Mon [1]

Hi Terry, I think you would have the most luck of finding Shunya by contacting Andrew in England at inossence@aol.com He had a website for people to contact others untill Aol closed everyone's homepage. I will look thru my e-mail list to see if I can find it, or maybe someone out there will point you in the right direction. Good Luck! Love Babaluie

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[> [> Re: Shunya -- No name, 14:34:01 06/07/10 Mon [1]

>Ah, thanks so much but I've already gone that route with absolutely no luck at all. I appreciate your caring! Finding him is my #1 wish!

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Studying The Twelve Pathways with my husband -- Dharma (Joyful), 06:46:18 06/07/10 Mon [1]

I've been studying the Living Love Method for over twenty-five years and am always amazed by its ability to get me through the rough times in life and help me to better appreciate the here and now. I introduced my husband to this beautiful philosophy and now he studies The Handbook with me. How cool is that?!

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[> Re: Studying The Twelve Pathways with my husband -- Babaluie, 11:21:51 06/07/10 Mon [1]

HI, That is great to be able to do the practices with your partner. My wife and I do it too. Check back soon because I will be adding " Your Hearts Desire ~ A Loving Relationship" in the near future. We can start an on-line grass-roots movement with the active participation of all the people this Work has touched!
Let's do it. Love Bob, a.k.a. Babaluie

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Pathways chants anyone? -- Daniel, 17:32:26 04/26/10 Mon [3]

So happy to find this site. When Ken was moving to KY in 1975, I took his workshop at hotel in Denver. What a sound we made in that ballroom!!! I took several more weekend workshops and then the facilitator training at Coos Bay. My dates are fuzzy, but I ran a group for a while in Boulder.

Does anyone have the tape of the 12 Pathways chants? It was the only way I could memorize them. Would love to see/hear them on YouTube. Hmmm. If the videos and cassettes aren't copy protected, it would be great to have them there.

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[> Re: Pathways chants anyone? -- Babaluie, 23:01:25 04/26/10 Mon [1]

Hi Daniel,Glad you made it here too! I believe you can buy cd's of the Pathways, spoken or sung at Ed Smith's site:www.happinessmall.comAlso available there are workshops DVD's and the four music cd's. Feel free to post here anytime or you can e-mail me any questions you have at babaluie@webtv.net~Babaluie

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[> Re: Pathways chants anyone? -- Louise, 17:03:48 05/08/10 Sat [1]

Could someone get in touch with me > I have only read the books.I want to know a lot more about the Living Love way. I'd love to attend any courses or ??? With all my love Louise
>So happy to find this site. When Ken was moving to KY
>in 1975, I took his workshop at hotel in Denver. What
>a sound we made in that ballroom!!! I took several
>more weekend workshops and then the facilitator
>training at Coos Bay. My dates are fuzzy, but I ran a
>group for a while in Boulder.
>
>Does anyone have the tape of the 12 Pathways chants?
>It was the only way I could memorize them. Would love
>to see/hear them on YouTube. Hmmm. If the videos and
>cassettes aren't copy protected, it would be great to
>have them there.

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[> [> Re: Pathways chants anyone? -- Babaluie, 20:24:16 05/10/10 Mon [1]

Hi Louise,This is for you, in case you didn't get my e-mail. You can order DVD's of workshops from Ed Smith at www.happinessmall.com He also gives workshops, but you need to e-mail him for details. To learn more about L.L. you can post questions here or e-mail me at babaluie@webtv.netI highly recommend getting the DVD's of Ken's workshops to experience "Living Love - the Science of Happiness" as it was taught and modeled by Ken Keyes. If you have not read "Gathering Power through Insight and Love" you should order it through Amazon. It teaches the full 2-4-4 system as it was taught at the Ken Keyes Center in Coos Bay Oregon. Even if you can not get the DVD's, it will teach you all you need to know, in conjunction with the "Handbook" and "How to Enjoy your life Inspite it All." There are also a couple of videos of Ken on Youtube and some free downloads at www.happinessmall.comBest Wishes ~ Bob (Babaluie)

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All ways us living love -- George, 19:35:17 11/21/08 Fri [2]

therapist remembered The Handbook always made him feel better back when. I feel a stronger connection and have gotten most of the books. Did anyone take up where Ken left off or is keeping it alive especially near Boulder, Colorado? I think years ago the Unity Church in Boulder had, but they don’t now. b-t-w Andrews site is down - they say permanently.

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[> Re: All ways us living love -- No name, 12:03:28 11/25/08 Tue [1]

Hi George,I'm glad that you found this site. Sorry to hear that Andrew's site is shut down. He put a lot of work into it and it helped a lot of people to stay connected. I will write him and see if it will come back in a new incarnation. I don't know of any groups in Boulder.there is a fellow that gives workshops in Coos Bay, Or.I will find his name and post it. It would be great to have some activity on the Forum, so please post as much as you like. I will post more tonight - Nov 25.~Bob Babaluie

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[> [> Re: All ways us living love -- JEFF, 20:07:26 01/17/10 Sun [1]

Hi George,

I ran the Monday groups in Unity Church Boulder for almost two years, and still run it at a different location- about 5 years now.. and took numerous workshops in Kentucky, one in Coos Bay, and several years ago with Ed Smith. You can get details to join us (free) if interested at
meerwood98@yahoo.com
take care
Jeff


>Hi George,I'm glad that you found this site. Sorry to
>hear that Andrew's site is shut down. He put a lot of
>work into it and it helped a lot of people to stay
>connected. I will write him and see if it will come
>back in a new incarnation. I don't know of any groups
>in Boulder.there is a fellow that gives workshops in
>Coos Bay, Or.I will find his name and post it. It
>would be great to have some activity on the Forum, so
>please post as much as you like. I will post more
>tonight - Nov 25.~Bob Babaluie

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GETTING HANDBOOKS SENT FROM THE U.S. TO AUSTRALIA -- Annapurna (Hopeful...heheh....), 14:42:17 08/13/09 Thu [2]

Hello lovers,

I'm currently an (almost) retired psychotherapist working in Australia, and I was in Cornucopia for a magnificent year in the late 70's with my young daughter.

These methods never get old, and I have some people whom I am currently teaching the methods, but I don't want to give away my precious copy of the Handbook.

I have found some second hand "Handbooks" on Amazon, but they are private people who do not ship to Australia. Is there anyone out there to whom I could have them sent, who would then forward them to me? I think it is time I did some workshops also, as a community offering, as the level of psychic pressure in our current world situation seems to beg some concrete help.

I have heard (true or untrue?) that there is quite a bit of mail stealing in the U.S., so it might be someone with a post office box?

I will be so grateful if someone could please help.

Yours in Living Love.

Annapurna

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[> Re: GETTING HANDBOOKS SENT FROM THE U.S. TO AUSTRALIA -- Babaluie, 10:27:41 08/17/09 Mon [1]

Hi Annapurna,My name is Bob Babaluie. I'm the creator of this site.If you send me mailing info at my e-mail address I might be able to help you get a copy of the Handbook. The addy is babaluie@webtv.net Be sure to put Living Love in the subject header so it does not get deleted as spam.Sorry for late reply. I support you in your efforts spread the Living Love message. Feel free to share yor insights and experiences at Cornucopia. ~Babaluie

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[> Re: GETTING HANDBOOKS SENT FROM THE U.S. TO AUSTRALIA -- No name, 08:48:21 12/03/09 Thu [1]

Hello
Try abebooks.com
Lots of copies there and some in Australia
Joy
Jackie

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boulder -- eliz in boulder, 14:10:31 11/22/09 Sun [1]

i'm looking for any folks in boulder who do this; can anyone connect me with someone who does ?
also i'm looking for a coach in this, someone experienced who has been doing this for 20+ years.
thanks
eliz

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Living Love Method Facilitators in Vancouver, B.C.? -- Kathie (Peacefully hopeful), 10:03:20 06/06/09 Sat [1]

After giving away my Handbook a decade ago, and trying to order another and ending up with the Workbook, realizing the profundity of all that and now wondering how to find a group to learn the Method with in my area.

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[> Re: Living Love Method Facilitators in Vancouver, B.C.? -- Babaluie (Peaceful easy feeling), 13:03:38 06/07/09 Sun [1]

Hi Kathie,It's great to share the Handbook with people, but the next time you get one, hang on to it, as they are getting harder to come by. ;-) If you can't find one, e-mail me at my contact address listed on the home page. Please put Living Love in the subject heading.The concise commentaries on the Pathways on the homepage are extracts from the Handbook and should be helpful untill you find a Handbook.For information about contacts in your area I would try Roedy Green at roedy@shaw.ca He is a long time Living Lover and was good friends with Ken. He is in B.C. and may know of local people. His website <a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://mindprod.com/livinglove/livinglove.html">http://mindprod.com/livinglove/livinglove.html</a> has a contact list and I think you may have luck there.You can also start your own group if you like. I have ideas and materials to help with that if you're interested. The Living Love Way is very profound and transformative. The more you use the Methods the more they work. If you would like to dialogue on this forumit would be fun. Thank you and good luck finding/starting a group. Let me know how it goes. ~ B.

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Renovating the old building -- Jim Eberhardt (majestically exquisite), 21:16:16 05/30/09 Sat [1]

Thinking of renovating the coos bay center building and starting a new "higher consciousness" center---is there anyone out there interested in participating? - finacially or as an instructor??? Doing a "Balancing" (PSYCH-K) tomorrow in the park and at the site for this project.

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[> Re: Renovating the old building -- Babaluie (Cornucopic :-)), 11:14:52 05/31/09 Sun [1]

Hi Jim,
I'm happy and amazed that you set your sights high. You are welcome to use this Board to cast your net and see what you can catch. I can offer you my best wishes and any ideas I may come up with. If you would like to share any of your experiences at The Center and/or with the Methods that would be great. Thanks for keeping Living Love alive. ~ Babaluie

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New finding -- sault (interested), 07:40:15 05/10/09 Sun [3]

As I've been struggling lately with my own happiness, I keep going through the motions of work, housework, yardwork, and then more work. I'm also planning my wedding, which yes, is stressful, but should be joyful too, shouldn't it? So, I haven't been able to snap out of it and then this morning a book has "fallen", "been knocked down by one of the cats", "appeared" in my view. A yellow book entitled "Prescriptions for Happiness". I don't know where I got this book, how it found its way into my collection, or how it ended up sitting there trying to get my attention. But it did, and I will begin reading through it today. I live in Oregon and googled Ken thinking I could head over to Coos Bay. Sigh. I guess it's better to be late than never show up, right? Thanks for the forum.

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[> Re: New finding -- No name, 12:16:04 05/12/09 Tue [1]

HI,I'm glad you made it here to the forum. I am on my way to work now so I will post a longer note tonight. It can indeed be stressful planning a marriage and being married too.;-) I will post the text of "Your Hearts Desire: A Loving Relationship." By Ken Keyes Jr., soon as a wedding present to you. Ken is gone and the school is too but you can find most of his books on Amazon. And there is enough of the system on this site to give you a good foundation to start with. You can breath in the word "Living" and breath out the word "Love" over and over as a sort of mantra to soothe jangled nerves. Itworks for me! More later. ~ Babaluie

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[> [> Re: New finding -- elijah, 08:03:39 05/13/09 Wed [1]

>HI,I'm glad you made it here to the forum. I am on my
>way to work now so I will post a longer note tonight.
>It can indeed be stressful planning a marriage and
>being married too.;-) I will post the text of "Your
>Hearts Desire: A Loving Relationship." By Ken Keyes
>Jr., soon as a wedding present to you. Ken is gone and
>the school is too but you can find most of his books
>on Amazon. And there is enough of the system on this
>site to give you a good foundation to start with. You
>can breath in the word "Living" and breath out the
>word "Love" over and over as a sort of mantra to
>soothe jangled nerves. Itworks for me! More later. ~
>Babaluie

Babaluie, Thank you for putting together this sight. I was just introduced to ken Keys Jr books a few days ago. I am on my second reading of Higher Consciousness and have enjoyed this methodology. I know that the school is no longer running but is there a way for people to become certified in teaching these methods, I would like to learn and apply these methods in my consulting/ministerial practice, any advice would help thanks.

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[> [> [> Re: New finding -- Babaluie, 19:46:25 05/13/09 Wed [1]

Hi Elijah,Thank you for your kind words. The Handbook is great and it will inform and inspire with many readings. I myself wanted to take teacher training but it was not to be. At this time I know of no way to get certified but that should not discourage you from learning the methods and sharing them with others. But there is one caveat. I do not think that one could charge for any service that one provides using these methods, if one does not have certification. I know this because Ken was very determined that the people he certified had passed his demanding standards and were using the methods in their own lives to a high degree. And it took many workshops before one was certified. But I think you can benefit from this system's methods in your work of helping others. So, to that end, I highly recommend in addition to the Handbook, reading "How to Enjoy Your Life,Inspite of It All". It devotes an entire chapter to each Pathway and is a classic in it's own right. I also suggest getting "Gathering Power Through Insight and Love". It presents the whole system as it was taught at the Ken Keyes Center. There are DVDs of workshops available at www.happinessmall.com costing around $12 each. I have not done business with them but I think they are legit and I do have a lot of the workshops on VHS and they are excellent. I also recommend reading "Discovering the Secrets of Happiness" by Ken, where tells his life story and how he created the Methods. Very inspiring! You will have to find these books on Amazon as they are out of print.But they are worth having. Please keep posting and keep me informed how it goes with you. P.S. If you do reply to a post, it helps if you delete the post you are repling to, so the board doesn't get cluttered up.~ Thanks ~Babaluie

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Ken -- No name, 16:59:43 02/17/09 Tue [1]

Hi,
I was with Ken in Berkley CA. Have been out of touch. Is Ken still with us or has he gone on?
Thanks,
Coleen

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[> Re: Ken -- Babaluie, 00:41:22 02/18/09 Wed [1]

Hi Coleen,Ken passed away Dec. 20, 1995 in Coos Bay, Or.You can read his obituary at Roedy's site.<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://mindprod.com/lovinglove/obit.htmlIf">http://mindprod.com/lovinglove/obit.htmlIf</a> you like, please feel free to share what you remember of your time with Ken.~ Bob Babaluie

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Ken's Book: "Enjoy your life in spite of it all" -- No name, 07:13:36 02/16/09 Mon [1]

I've just started to read Ken's book "Enjoy your life in Spite of it all", although I have had the book sitting on my shelf at home for well over ten years!! I have dipped into it previously but found it quite 'heavy' going so would put the book back. However, I am now reading it with new insight and it really does make sense.

I'm just wondering if any workshops or meetings are held in England, specifically in London and if there is a way to get hold of other books written by Ken Keyes.

Thanks.

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[> Re: Ken's Book: "Enjoy your life in spite of it all" -- Babaluie, 10:34:36 02/16/09 Mon [1]

Hi there,"How to Enjoy your life" is an excellent companion to "The Handbook to Higher Consciousness." The best place to find Ken's books are on Amazon. They are out of print now. The person to talk to about workshops is Andrew, he lives in England and had a great L.L. web site. It is not happening at present. His e-mail is inossence@aol.com He might be able to help you with books too. Please post whenever you like. ~Babaluie

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Living Love is International -- Philcut, 03:53:55 01/06/09 Tue [1]

I recall taking the Living Love course in Pittsburgh around 1974 at a hotel near the airport. There were three or four instructors that used a bus to travel around the country. I drove my van to the meetings and slept in it to save some costs.

Our class was a very good size and had a very good balance of men and women of all ages. I have set up various Holistic sites on the Internet and linked to this Forum at <a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://philcutrara1.tripod.com/mind.html">http://philcutrara1.tripod.com/mind.html</a> where you can see a database of over 5,000 sites for growing and living the true way of life.

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Reply -- George, 08:08:16 12/05/08 Fri [1]

thanks Babaluie, very true about the 5th!

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Happy Thanksgiving -- George, 17:03:19 11/26/08 Wed [1]

Even though it seems I am monopolizing the last few messages just wanted to share something that I found profound. An excerpt from the Handbook to share for Thanksgiving -

"The meaning of hear and now is beautifully illustrated by a Zen story of a monk who was being chased by two tigers. He came to the edge of a cliff. He looked back -- the tigers were almost upon him. Noticing a vine leading over the cliff he quickly crawled over the edge and began to let himself down by the vine. Then as he checked below, he saw two tigers waiting for him at the bottom of the cliff. He looked up & observed that two mice were gnawing away at the vine. Just then, he saw a beautiful strawberry within arms reach. He picked it and enjoyed the best tasting strawberry in his whole life!

Although only minutes from death, the monk could enjoy the hear and now.
Our life continually sends us “tigers”–-and it continually sends us “strawberries,”
But do we let ourselves enjoy the strawberries? Or do we use our valuable consciousness worrying about the tigers?

Notice that the monk fully responded to the physical danger in the most intelligent way. He ran from the tigers—and he even scrambled down the cliff while hanging onto a vine. And having done this, he remained fully in the here and now to enjoy whatever life offered him. Although death was only minutes away, he did not let thoughts of the future terrify him. After doing everything he could do, he used his precious consciousness to fully enjoy every moment of his life.

There is a saying. “A coward dies a thousand deaths; a brave man only one.”
For all of us, death is a part of our future. But we do not have to become what the existentialists refer to as the living dead.”

We can always find things we can magnify to threaten our security, sensation, and power addictions. Or we can consciously perform whatever action is needed and then turn our attention to enjoying everything we have to enjoy. And we always have enough to be happy if we are enjoying what we do have and not worrying about what we don’t have.

Happy Thanksgiving!!

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[> Re: Happy Thanksgiving -- No name, 21:53:40 11/26/08 Wed [1]

Thank you George, for the apropos message. It also relects on the fifth Center of Consciousness - Cornucopia. There is a Living Love saying - " Life is perfect for our growth or our enjoyment." Growth when we work on our selves when we don't get what we want, and enjoyment when we emotionally accept what life gives us.I hope we all have a lot of enjoyment this Thanksgiving.AWULL~ Babaluie

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(cont'd) -- George, 19:57:15 11/21/08 Fri [1]

Being new, found a some videos of Kens called the Science of Happiness on YouTube. Peaceful and easy to watch. I hope to be able memorize the Pathways like Maggie. Know it will take me some time though. I keep them in my wallet and a copy of the Handbook with me whenever possible.

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Practicing Ken methods -- Maggie (Joyful), 12:39:08 09/13/08 Sat [1]

I went to Coos Bay for a week on December 1991. I met there Ken and Penny and the unconditional love envirnonment Ken created there.The experience I had there was awakening. I bought almost all Ken books and I continued until these day practicing the Living Love method.I created for me a walking meditation repiting Ken 12 pathways that helped me mantain balance and wisdom to deal with very difficult situations in my life. I am very excited to know that now other people are recognizing Ken incredible wisdom and that we can share about practicing the Living Love method.

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[> Re: Practicing Ken methods -- Babaluie (Glad), 23:49:19 09/13/08 Sat [1]

Welcome aboard Maggie!Great to hear that you improvise and taylor the Methods to your own specific needs. I do the same. I like walking and saying "Living" on the in-breath and "Love" on the out-breath. There are other inovations I use that I can mention at a later date. If you have others, let us know about them. Stress seems to be a constant these days, but I guess it's always been like that to some degree. Using the the Methods to stay centered helps those around us also.You may like to check out Andrew's site to see if you can recognize anyone from the time you were there.Wishing you the very best and please post as often as you like ~ Babaluie

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new to living love -- Purple Dragon Star (Star of Love), 07:07:22 06/19/08 Thu [2]

My dear girlfriend is sending me a book. She has recomended I read this and I am. Hello to all, love to all.
Purple Dragon Star

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[> Re: new to living love -- Babaluie, 10:09:04 06/24/08 Tue [1]

Hi P. Dragon!After to you read it, tell us what you think about it.I hope it will be very benificial for you.~Babaluie

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Any of us left and why... -- John Hurbon (Lovesharedtoday), 21:45:17 04/15/08 Tue [1]

In a brief few hours at the Northwest YMCA in Tucson, Arizona this past Saturday, April 12th, 2008. I kept a volunteer committment and stayed in "lovesharedtoday" mood/state of mind. Given back more than I could give...played "The Puppy Song" and "If You're Happy and You Know"...Wow, did I know love and it knew me and the people knew love, I saw it, I felt it. The sun echoed its warmth throughout the afternoon and embraced us all in the joyful sights, sounds, smells and holding of hands. Danced the YMCA and the Chicken Dance. Pursuit of happiness ? We caught happiness and laughed right along with it. Any of US left? I have to say so...lovesharedtoday ... a musician from Benson, Arizona...

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