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Subject: Re: What ever happened to Elder Joseph G. Meyer?


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Date Posted: 14:01:31 11/28/08 Fri
In reply to: Ruth 's message, "What ever happened to Elder Joseph G. Meyer?" on 16:45:30 11/05/08 Wed

The hardest part of typing in this forum is I will be discussing family-blood. I can't bring myself to bring a “railing accusation” against them but the facts will show that there is a gulf that exists that cannot be crossed between members of my family and the family that remain by their parent’s side.

Point 1- Mike’s conviction happened after he moved to Wisconsin. As a truck driver he drives less than 300 feet from my front door and less than a thousand from his father's. His actions were despicable, not only to me and my family, but also to every moral person on earth. He has done irreparable damage to himself and his family, (no wife or child should have to put up with what he did), me personally (he is number 7) and to our family. Having a child who does tragic things is not the issue, covering it (as Eli did) or defending the conviction is. Jacob C., (number 3), is the one who bankrolled Mike’s defense.

Point 2- Daniel (number 4). He has nothing to do with the family. At the funeral of our grandparents, Daniel showed up and came up to say “Hello!” to his parents. What should Elder Meyer have done, jumped up and kicked him out of the funeral home? Daniel makes his own decisions and lives his own life.

Point 3- Joe (number 2). When our youngest sister ran away with no note or warning, we as a family, spent 2 days searching the roads and the ditches, calling the police, contacting her friends and generally going crazy with concern. Joe’s daughter knew the whole time where she was and never said a word. Just because she had been raped at home, doesn't give her a right to run away like that. When our father found out about this he told Joe that something was not right. Joe said he would go home to fix the problems. That was the last time his father saw him for two months. Elder Meyer then discovered that Joe was into horrific perversions on the Internet. Since then Joe has gone on to act on his perversions, divorcing his wife (no wife and child should have to put up with that) and has had multiple relationships. When we learned of his whereabouts Elder Meyer sent us to see if there was any way to change his mind. We returned in tears (ours, not Joe’s) when he tendered his resignation to the Assemblies of Yahweh. I am young, have only been married for 21 years and there is no way in heaven or below that calling me to tell me that I had forgotten to turn off the barn lights, would make me do what he did to his family. It just makes me so incredibly mad.

Point 4- Mary (number 1) committed adultery. I can't begin to understand how that made her feel. She is the first to admit that she reacted in the wrong way. When she returned, she spent years on probation, whatever that is, as an adulteress. Then a letter from her was read in the Assembly with open discussion available, but no one dared to speak out, in fear that they would be kicked out. With the consent of Elder Meyer, she was reinstated as a member. What more can she do than to return and be put back on the payroll, even in the face of her adulterous history. BTW-Matt. 19 contains the one acceptable reason for divorce.

Point 5- I just returned from Reading, Berks County, and there is a court record for Gary McAvin being charged by his daughter for incest. But of course, but he is my father-in-law, so he won't be kicked out of the Assemblies of Yahweh. I do hate it when my kids call him both grandpa and daddy though. If there would have been a conviction, as the president of the organization, Elder Meyer would terminate them immediately, no further questions asked. But because his daughter brought the action after the statutes of limitation ran out, he is off free! Yes, free because of a technicality. Because we have school on-site, each employee must pass the strictest back-ground check by the Department of Education and the Pennsylvania State Police or they can’t be employed by the Assemblies of Yahweh. But you see if someone gets around this because of the statutes of limitations, eventhough they raped their own daughter they can be around the children. Isn't the law and the statutes of limitation cool!

Point 6- I spoke to Rebecca VanderMeulen. We have no idea how the "relative" rumor began. The closest we can come up with is a shirt tail relative. So what if the Meyers along with probably a third of the population in America are related to her? Elder Meyer joked that because our forefathers and her husband’s come from the same area we are probably related. Meyer family reunions are generally at one of the families houses or at the Church of the Brethren.

I may have missed an accusation in the forum and not addressed it, this does not mean that it is right concerning my sister Rachel being the victim of incest.


The Assemblies of Yahweh and Elder Jacob O. Meyer stand for adherence to Yahweh’s Word at least when it comes to the non-family members. No excuses except for Gary McAvin, Jonathan Meyer, Mary, Daniel, Joe, Jake, Jacob O. Meyer and the rest of our family. Am I the only one who reads these entries and sees that maybe why members of my family see our father as “controlling” is because they want to do what they want and they know he will show them the door and tell them where they are wrong for not doing things his way, thus they transfer their anger to him. I personally am thankful for my parent, after all where would I be if my parents weren't able to collect tithes from all those people for all the years, giving us free housing,clothing, food, cars and a free education etc?

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DWAYNE BUBLEY
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Date Posted: 19:32:07 11/30/08 Sun

WE HAVE 12 FAMILY MEMBERS THAT EITHER HAVE BEEN A MEMBER IN THE AOY OR ARE IN THE AOY OR WILL BE COMING TO BE A MEMBER IN THE AOY. THROUGH VERY LITTLE DETERMINATION TO FIND NEGATIVE STUFF ON THE AOY AND ELDER MEYER WE ENDED UP WITH LOADS, TOO MUCH FOR US. PLEASE HELP US FIND SOME TANGIBLE TRUTH TO SHOW MY BROTHER OF 5 CHILDREN, OF WHO ALSO HAVE CHILDREN, THAT THE AOY IS A HOAX AND ELDER MEYER IS A SINFULL MAN. WE ARE BELIEVERS IN YAHWEH BUT IN THE "TRUTH" ONLY. WHAT YOU HAVE EXPRESSED IN THIS FORUM IS BRAVE AND COULD HELP US WITH OUR FAMILY. WE HAVE MY 73 YEAR OLD MOTHER LIVING WITH US AND I WOULD LOVE TO SHOW HER THE TRUTH BEFORE SHE SLEEPS. I HAVE ALREADY PHONED MY BROTHER TO TELL HIM WHAT I FOUND, BUT AS HE HAS BEEN A MEMBER FOR 20 YEARS, HE WAS VERY ANGRY AND DEFENDED ELDER MEYER WITH GREAT ADMIRATION, I'M SURE ELDER MEYER WOULD HAVE BEEN PROUD. A LITTLE FOOD FOR THOUGHT, MY GRANDFATHER WAS WILLIAM MEYER AND AMELIA MEYER, MY GRANDMOTHER, MY GRANDFATHER WAS BURIED BY REV. JACOB O. MEYER IN 1975 MARCH 2 IN EDMONTON, ALBERTA, CANADA. REV. JACOB O. MEYER I BELIEVE IS YOUR FATHER? PLEASE HELP US WITH SOME KIND OF PROOF, I BELIEVE THE HEAVENLY FATHER IS GUIDING ME TO THIS PLACE TO SAVE MY FAMILY FROM THIS BRAINWASHING.

SINCERLY, DWAYNE BUBLEY

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