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Subject: Re: From The December PDQ Website


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melindas (excited)
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Date Posted: 23:18:44 04/26/10 Mon
In reply to: Patti 's message, "From The December PDQ Website" on 17:46:22 12/01/09 Tue

>Hello Everyone!
>
> Here is some Great advice from Pameala Dove from
>the PDQ Website. Pameala is/was a nanny that has
>Feminized numerous males over her lifetime. Enjoy!!
>
>A Nanny Writes
>
>Dear Helga,
>
>I was directed to your charming website by a lovely
>Scottish woman I met in an Internet chat room for
>mature dominant wives. She recommended Petticoat
>Discipline Quarterly to me as the most comprehensive
>website for correspondence about petticoated males and
>she was absolutely correct. I've had a really joyful
>time working my way through your archive material and
>had many a giggle over the imaginative disciplines
>your female readers have described using on their
>husbands, sons and nephews etc. One wonders how many
>males we pass on the street everyday (and barely
>acknowledge their existence) hide an embarrassing
>secret beneath their masculine clothing. I would go so
>far as to suggest that more pantied, nappied and
>chastity controlled men abound than many people are
>aware of.
>
>Men can be such fools and really are their own worst
>enemies. Do they never learn? One wonders how sweet
>little boys can grow into such belligerent teenagers
>and unruly, disrespectful adults after we put so much
>hard work into raising them nicely. They really only
>have themselves to blame. Now, whilst I don't agree
>with the more extreme methods of discipline and
>domination, such as enforced sissification or openly
>public humiliation, it is apparent to me (and your
>numerous female correspondents) that the more
>excessive demonstrations of masculine behaviour
>definitely have to be brought under female control. So
>if the male won't recognise his faults and willingly
>moderate his behaviour then we have to step-in and lay
>down the law ourselves, even if only for our own peace
>of mind.
>
>On the cover of Petticoat Discipline Quarterly, Aunty
>Kathy writes: "I believe petticoat discipline to be
>effective, fun, and helpful to society and family.
>More importantly, it is actually true that you can
>catch more flies with honey than vinegar. A cute
>pinafore, silk clothing, dainty shoes, and the comfort
>of panties or dummy is honey". I completely agree with
>Aunty Kathy's simple statement for I truly believe
>that the soft, yet assertive gentle touch will always
>yield the best results in the long run. Boys
>especially, if caught early enough and before they
>learn bad habits from their peer groups, can benefit
>greatly from even a relatively short period in
>petticoats and if they are encouraged to explore their
>own inner femininity through dressing with mother
>lessons then that healthy and, above all, positive
>experience will stay with them well into their adult
>lives too. I believe that effective petticoating is as
>much about guiding a male towards higher personal
>standards as it is about correcting his bad ways.
>
>In my time I have had good cause to discipline a
>number of young males in loco parentis and, like Aunty
>Kathy, I too have seen petticoating as a golden
>opportunity to teach moody, self-centred teenagers
>especially, a valuable lesson about nurturing and
>putting others first. With younger males though I've
>generally found a good place to start is to give the
>newly petticoated boy a pretty dolly to care for.
>We've all had our favourite dollies when we were girls
>so it's only fitting that a petticoated boy should
>rightly come to know the same simple joys any little
>girl experiences from playing with her dolly. It isn't
>always necessary to make the boy adopt a girl's name
>during his petticoating but I would certainly tell him
>to give his dolly a pretty name and explain to him
>that she must be as presentable as he was at all
>times. He would have to learn how to dress his dolly,
>brush and plait or braid her hair and how to tie
>pretty ribbon bows; if she was a baby dolly then he
>would have to learn how to bottle-feed, bathe and
>change her too and I would encourage him to keep his
>dolly with him at all times and whenever we went out.
>Matching dresses for the boy and his dolly is another
>fine idea as it builds a special bond between the boy
>and his dolly very quickly. He will work hard to care
>for her and keep his dolly's appearance up to his
>newly acquired standards. Seeing a newly trained,
>feminised male happily helping with the shopping or
>household chores or a petticoated boy pushing his
>dolly's pram around the park really is a satisfying
>sight to be seen and makes all the hard work truly
>worthwhile. With time and patience miracles can and do
>happen. It is all about refocusing a boy's attention;
>away from the negative and destructive and towards the
>positive and constructive.
>
>With some males, at times it can feel like a constant
>uphill struggle to institute a successful petticoating
>regime but the only times I have, most regrettably,
>turned to domestic discipline are when I've completely
>exhausted all other ways of bringing the recidivist to
>heel, so when a boy goes over my knee he knows he has
>really deserved it. I never spank out of anger nor to
>humiliate the boy (and I have never spanked a boy in
>front of anyone other than his mother, aunt or other
>female guardian) but to teach him a difficult lesson
>and I'm proud to say that I have never needed to spank
>the same male more than once. I believe the timely
>shock of a sorely, reddened and stinging backside
>followed by a spell in the naughty corner and an early
>bedtime is both a discomforting and a profoundly
>shameful experience that any male, of whatever age,
>will remember for a long time to come, as is born out
>by so many of the personal accounts and frank
>confessions you have printed from mature spanked and
>petticoated males.
>
>Moving away from thoughts of domestic discipline, it
>is true that some young males take to petticoating
>surprisingly quickly but its sheer poppycock to think
>that petticoating alone will turn a naturally
>heterosexual boy gay or make him into a mincing sissy
>boy. I've certainly known a few older teenage boys
>give themselves away by becoming quite aroused by
>party frocks, frilly petties and pretty underwear and
>some will even adopt a very sissy manner indeed when
>dressing or being dressed, but that aspect of their
>character was always inside of them anyway;
>petticoating just permitted it to be brought to the
>surface. In fact most young heterosexual males do
>experiment with female clothes; whether they are their
>mother's clothes, a sister's or another female's. It
>is a natural stage in any boy's development and it is
>perfectly understandable that young, sensitive males
>might feel drawn to softer, sensual materials like
>satin, lace and silk (which usually tend to be found
>only in a woman's wardrobe) even if it is only a
>passing phase in the boys' lives. It is only the
>ridiculous social pressure of silly male peer groups
>that forces a boy to suppress any feminine feelings he
>may experience and coerces him into regarding outward
>expressions of femininity in other males as a sign of
>weakness. This becomes an ingrained, learned response
>and is fuelled mainly by a male's own denial of his
>feminine feelings and a fear of discovery, which
>ultimately results in such stupid acts of displacement
>as fighting over the result of silly football matches
>and thinking that brute force and sheer ignorance will
>overcome all problems. Petticoating helps to redress
>this imbalance for true petticoat discipline doesn't
>rob a male of his masculinity; it moderates it and
>teaches him that there is a time and place for
>everything (with the possible exception of their silly
>football games). From my experience most heterosexual
>males will gradually come to accept their petticoating
>by rote and so adopt a more pleasing and cooperative
>manner around women without feeling they need to mince
>or put on a silly, squeaky voice and exhibit prissy,
>attention seeking behaviour. A contented, petticoated
>male is a male who has learned to be at peace with his
>feminine side.
>
>Deportment. At the mere mention of that word I can
>imagine quite a few of your male readers will suddenly
>sit bolt upright or feel an urgent need to check their
>posture. Older readers might even bring to mind images
>of long legged, miniskirted models from the 1960s
>deftly swinging their legs in and out of shiny sports
>cars (knees together now, girls!) without ever once
>showing a glimpse of underwear. One dictionary
>definition of deportment states that it is 'the manner
>in which a person behaves (or conducts oneself),
>especially in physical bearing'. Quite so.
>
>Males are physically top heavy, more so than even the
>bustiest woman for males move from their shoulders.
>Watch any male walking anywhere and you will see what
>I mean. It is most noticeable in the slouching,
>hunched shoulders and shuffles of the average teenage
>male and can present quite a challenge to any women
>petticoating a boy for the first time. For a start,
>getting a teenage male to stand up straight can be
>taxing enough; just ask any parent! The classic tried
>and trusted technique of placing a hardback book flat
>upon a petticoated male's head when teaching him how
>to walk upright in a convincingly feminine manner
>remains my favoured method and is particularly
>pertinent when training a male in heels. Teenage boys
>especially find high heels difficult to cope with and
>often stumble or turn their ankles at first because
>they do not pay close attention to how a woman
>actually holds her body when she walks (sic). To
>remedy this fault, when training a teenage boy to
>heels I would mark out a line along the floor with a
>roll of drafting tape, from one end of my hallway to
>the other (about 20 feet in length) and, instructing
>the boy to place one foot in front of the other, a
>pace apart and directly on the tape as he walked along
>it, I would tell the boy to hold his hips so that he
>could physically feel them sway from side to side,
>mimicking a catwalk model's movement. At the end of
>the line of tape he would then turn on the balls of
>his high heeled shoes and walk back along the same
>line to the starting point, all the while keeping his
>spine straight and shoulders back so as not to
>dislodge the book from his head. And then he would be
>told to repeat the same exercise again and again and
>again. To a casual observer this seems a mite
>exaggerated at first but, with constant repetition and
>practice, this method successfully teaches any male
>the basics of posture, grace and elegance when walking
>like a female in high heels. Refinement in movement
>comes later for none of us can run before we can walk;
>especially in heels! Sometimes a short, flared skirt
>or wraparound kilt would help as the swing of his
>skirt would match the movements of the boy's hips and
>help him to establish a smooth and naturally graceful
>feminine rhythm to his gait.
>
>One little addition of my own devising, intended to
>encourage the petticoated male to keep his head up and
>facing forwards, is to give the petticoated male
>clip-on earrings to wear that have tiny silver bells
>hanging from them. The purpose, he will quickly learn,
>is to walk delicately and lightly and not to make the
>bells tinkle at all. It is more difficult than it
>sounds; I've even tried it myself. Other young
>dressers, transvestites and feminised males I've
>worked with have also benefited from being taped and
>tucked, as this clever technique helps them to achieve
>a more convincingly feminine swing to their hips
>whilst walking and a more visually pleasing feminine
>shape in their underwear with the added bonus that a
>tucked male feels more feminine in his mind because
>his private parts are discretely hidden from view. One
>should never underestimate the psychological effect a
>few lengths of surgical tape or a dancer's modesty
>strip can have on the male ego. It works every time.
>
>Now, if you will excuse me going off on a slight
>tangent for a moment, I must say that I can't help but
>be appalled by the general state of men's table
>manners. All too often I see males treat knives and
>forks as weapons and literally attack their food,
>lowering their heads to cram sustenance into their
>mouths. There really is no need to act like this.
>Knives, forks and spoons are implements, not weapons
>and should be used as an aid to eating, not as a means
>to fill the mouth as quickly as possible. Food should
>be chewed with the mouth shut! Ladies eat with
>refinement, using the knife and fork correctly, always
>cutting their food into small, manageable pieces and
>lifting the food by the tines and the bridge of the
>fork to the mouth. One will never see a lady or a well
>raised girl lower her head, as to a pig's trough, and
>shovel her food into her mouth. This is something that
>I would always take time to instil in any boy that I
>was petticoating at the time. Manners cost nothing but
>they mean everything and good table manners especially
>are the mark of the nicely raised young lady.
>
>Well, now that I have that out of my system I want to
>briefly mention 'the Curtsey'. Teaching the male to
>curtsey is an excellent way for him to find his
>natural 'feminine' centre of gravity for, in my
>opinion, there's nothing worse than a badly trained,
>petticoated male or sissy maid who cannot execute a
>full curtsey properly. The dainty lifting of the dress
>hem and petticoat (betwixt the thumb and first and
>second fingers only, please with the ring ringer
>slightly crooked and the little finger fully extended)
>should be executed at exactly the same moment that the
>male dips in his curtsey and lowers his eyes. It
>should be one, singular, fluid movement of his body
>made with the minimal of fuss and, as any well trained
>maid knows, the purpose of the curtsey is to show
>subservience, obedience and respect to one's elders
>and betters and not to openly display one's underwear,
>unless specifically instructed to. With perfect
>execution only the dark band of the stocking tops
>should be glimpsed and not the suspender straps or
>panties. In time and with much practice, practice,
>practice, even the gawkiest petticoated male teenager
>or young adult can execute a perfect curtsey, learn to
>walk beautifully in heels and exhibit excellent table
>manners and refined feminine mannerisms with a natural
>grace and elegance; so becoming a source of pride and
>joy for his mother, aunt or guardian in the process.
>It never fails. (One quick thought - I wonder how many
>modern teenage girls and young women nowadays know how
>to curtsey; not many I would think. The days of the
>debutante and elegant young ladies being presented at
>court appear to be long gone.)
>
>Of course petticoating isn't for everyone; one size
>doesn't necessarily fit all so it's understandable
>that some women have instead turned to nappies and
>nursery discipline to control their troublesome males.
>Teenage, nappied males, such as sons and nephews can
>be particularly sweet if they're well trained and even
>some adult children and mature, nappied husbands can
>make very amusing babies and playthings for the
>naturally dominant woman. In my opinion whatever
>method of discipline works for you and gets the
>results you want is the correct discipline to use.
>There's no written rule that says males have to be out
>of nappies by a certain age but, all the same, I am
>still surprised by those women who deliberately
>regress their males to a fulltime babyhood as I can't
>understand why any intelligent, self-assured woman
>would wish to create more work for herself by taking
>on a fulltime, big baby. My view is that nursery
>discipline should ultimately benefit the woman and not
>chain her to an endless round of nappy changes, bottle
>feeds and attending to every passing whim of her
>'baby'. Just who is training whom here? I suppose
>there are some dominant mothers, aunts and wives who
>genuinely seek out such an intense 'babyist' lifestyle
>for their own personal reasons but then, considering
>my particular interests, who I am to judge how others
>choose to live? Each to her own is my philosophy. A
>woman I've known for many years has successfully
>raised four boys on her own, all of whom were briefly
>under strict nappy discipline (as opposed to nursery
>discipline) through their awkward teenage years. It
>did them a world of good. They are all now happily
>married to imaginative, assertive wives and although
>none are nappied any longer it's clear that the boys;
>now all young men, have learned their early lessons
>well and hold their wives and mother in the highest
>regard, as they should.
>
>I suppose it's inevitable that there's going to be
>some cross-over with petticoating and nursery
>discipline. I confess I've even done it myself with a
>stubborn teenager who repeatedly spoiled the pretty
>underwear I had carefully chosen for him; returning
>the boy to baby dresses, terry nappies and frilly,
>plastic 'baby' pants after a spanking to shamefully
>remind him why he was being disciplined in the first
>place. In that particular case it became necessary to
>nappy the awkward boy, day and night, for the best
>part of a month to ensure he had fully learned his
>lesson but I've noticed with most teenagers and
>younger, adult males the mere prospect of being made
>to wear bulky terry nappies and rustling plastic pants
>is usually embarrassing enough to make them buck their
>ideas up very fast and work hard to keep their quiet
>panties. A male in that situation quickly learns to
>see his dainty panties and petticoats as a big step-up
>from nappies and plastic pants and a reward for
>continuing good behaviour. For ultimately it always
>comes down to reward and punishment with males,
>doesn't it?
>
>On a slightly different tack, the dominant Scottish
>woman I briefly mentioned at the top of my letter told
>me that both her husband and adult stepson wear
>permanent chastity devices as both males were chronic
>self-abusers until she stepped in and took control of
>them. The husband, she told me, had originally
>advertised for a dominant wife to take control of his
>life but he got more than he had imagined or bargained
>for when he agreed to marry this ingeniously minded
>Scottish woman. The device the males wear is
>apparently called a 'Curve'; I had to look it up on
>the Internet as I'm not au fait with the newer types
>of chastity aids yet and a most disconcerting piece of
>equipment it looks too! She has had both of her males
>fitted and locked and quite proudly boasted that the
>keys hang from a slim, silver chain around her neck.
>Her 'wee laddies', as she referred to the two males in
>her life, are also petticoated, pantied, pierced and
>completely under her thumb. Released from their
>chastity only to wash and see to their personal
>hygiene, they are also permitted a mere seven minutes
>(by the egg timer), once a fortnight, to manually
>'relieve' their masculine frustrations. There is one
>other female keyholder involved in this disciplinarian
>relationship and that is her stepson's fiancé who has
>taken to her new, dominant role as a duck to water
>and, I was told, is only too eager to learn as much as
>she can about male chastity control from her
>prospective mother-in-law. Those are two,
>single-minded and very determined women; I like their
>style. I've never used chastity control on males of
>any age but since my retirement it is a subject in
>which I am becoming more and more interested and I
>think it merits further study so thank you to both
>you, Aunty Helga and Saffy for your very interesting
>area of Petticoat Discipline Quarterly covering male
>chastity. You've given me something new to think
>about!
>
>In recent months I've become something of an
>unofficial, online Agony Aunty in some of the chat
>rooms I like to visit and I'm pleased to note that
>petticoating and nursery discipline are still as
>widely supported and as prevalent as ever. I've also
>heard tell of beauty pageant events for young
>petticoated males in America, which I think is a
>wonderful idea for promoting petticoating and a
>feminine way of life and I really hope it catches on
>over here. There are a great many mature women, both
>here and abroad, who continue to petticoat or nappy
>(diaper) their husbands and adult offspring and I am
>so delighted with the new generation of younger,
>assertive mothers and aunties discovering for
>themselves the benefits of training their growing boys
>in pretty 'little girl' style dresses. I'm sure these
>particular boys will grow into respectful adults, no
>matter what their eventual, personal preferences turn
>out to be, and never forget their invaluable,
>petticoated lessons learned at their mummies knees'.
>
>One final point I'd like to raise and that is how
>shocked I've become with the growing, unladylike
>behaviour of some teenage girls and young women
>nowadays. Female public drunkenness, swearing and lewd
>behaviour are anathema to me. I blame slack parenting,
>the availability of cheap alcohol, drug taking,
>'reality' television and the tawdry sensationalism of
>the yellow press for undermining our traditional,
>homely values and leading the less-disciplined members
>of our sex into bad ways. In my day no nicely raised
>young lady would ever deign to lower herself to such
>base, underclass standards. Something needs to be
>done; right now. I'm afraid that it might be time for
>petticoating (and possibly even nursery discipline) to
>be extended, albeit temporarily, to wayward girls; if
>only to bring them back to the path of righteousness,
>feminine decency and simple good manners. That's just
>my opinion; call it old fashioned or out of date if
>you like but I know I am not the only old biddy to
>think this way.
>
>Well it's been lovely to discover Petticoat Discipline
>Quarterly and my apologies to all of you in the PDQ
>offices for this rather long and involved letter.
>There is so much more that I would like to write about
>but I think I shall save that for another time
>perhaps, as its getting late now. I will make a point
>to visit Petticoat Discipline Quarterly more often now
>and I will most definitely be recommending your unique
>and wonderful website to other women I happen across
>with petticoated, nursery disciplined or chastity
>controlled males. I wish you all the very best of luck
>with the future.
>
>With Love,
>Pamela Dove
>
>Thank you for writing Pamela, I'm sure our readers
>were thrilled to read such a detailed and instructive
>letter and if you have time, perhaps write again.
>
>Helga
Wow, wonderful post. i'd love to know where the chat room for mature dom wives is, i'd like to guide a muture Woman to it. Please.
melindas

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