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Date Posted: 07/ 2/02 3:58am
By passing your web sites, much I have read many times the fact remains that if you say
“God is the greatest” You have to have something to compare to, a “lessor god”. You can
not say “beginning” with out the implications of and “end”. You can not say the
“smallest” without implying that something is “bigger”. You can not say god is “all
knowing” without implying that there are “Gods” that do NOT know every thing.
These are comparative words and ideas. It is just the way life is Wade. To say it is “Hot”
is in reference to some stander that something is colder. So we have hot, hotter, hottest.
So what is the standard that you go by? Anything you want. But the implication are there
none the less.
Dumb dumber dumbest---- great greater greatest--- small smaller smallest--smart smarter
smartest.....
Do you get the idea here Wade. When you say god is the greatest, to what are you
comparing to? Your personal feelings of what your imagine god is, so how many gods do
you imagination? 100’s?--Fine. Do you want to go by what some book says, great, that
is “hearsay” How many “gods” do they imagine, and more personal opinion. Do we have
a God scale of some kind? Do we have an infinite ruler or tape measure with out an
end?--NO And even if the bible was perfect and non conflicting with in its self see
(biblical errancy web site, for thousands of bible errors )--it would not prove a god, for
math books are perfect also, as compared to its self as a system- what ever number system
you want to use. Perfect is an other relative statement--- it has NO meaning unless you
can show what is NOT perfect. The word “perfect” does not stand alone.
So is there a “greatest” math? Is there a “lessor” math. We can say there is math, that is a
fact and can be demonstrated. The “greater Math” is a persons opinion as to some stander
that is set. Math and Advanced math. Complexity could be a standard as compared to
human intellect and ability--- but math does exist and we have something to compare to.
You have done nothing to resolve the argument Wade. Your god is nothing but a play on
words when you say “God “is” any thing”. End of story Wade. God is any thing in your
imagination only.
Here is the only rout left open for you--- you can leave the entire god ideas hanging in the
voids of space and time with a sentence --God is. And then you personally can fill in the
blank. Your idea of god is personal. What ever you want it to be. You are totally in titled
to your personal opinion. You can say god is revealed to you by personal revelation that
has meaning to you and to you alone. Fine with me. But as soon as you speak and say
--God is this or god is that, you have got to show a god first and you are in deep water
over your head. Any following statement after the sentence--God is. Is nothing but
wishful thinking at best. So god IS every thing? OK, is god the devil? Is god Hitler? Was
god in Yates that killed her 5 kids?--EVERY THING ? So god is a rock that is too heavy
for him to lift? --- Your argument still falls apart, coming right out of the gate.
Can you find good in a god idea--yes. Is it inspiring--yes. Does it give you an emotional
high- yes. A reason for living--yes----all these things are purely subjective statements that
has meaning to you and to you alone. And God should be taught as such.
Your personal beliefs are NOT a standard that the world should live by. For there are
billions of people on this earth that have as many gods as there are stars in the heavens,
they make them up as they go.
I have clearly demonstrated that for you to say “god is the greatest” you must
acknowledge the existence of other gods, this is the crack that (one of many) puts your
god theology right to bed. For you also have to show how many gods there are to make
your statement true. So Wade how many gods are there?? Jesus is perfect? As compared
to your perfects gods?--- so compare myth to myth and you get myth every time.
Now Wade I have talked to many people, argued this to no end. I have learned much in
my months of absence. Many people clearly admit that their god is a personal belief and
there in not any out side evidence. They do believe in a God but a personal one, shown
only by personal experience, how ever they want to interpret it. I have No problem with
this. Some very interesting ideas --but that is all they are---personal ideas.
So tell me Wade, how can you have just a “good”? Can a “good” exist on its own with
out implying a “bad”. Can you have a “good” without implying a “best”. And what
standard will you use for these words?--- your own personal opinion unless you want to
bring out a ruler or tape measure of some kind and then your god disappears back to
where it came from--your imagination.
The English language is filled with this and you know it. One of these days you may see
this and you will become enlightened and maybe give your self a new perspective in life.
In all honesty IF you have read this far-- Those that do acknowledge that God is personal
and put their emotional and mental efforts to see this personal god, are really (in my
opinion) some very enlightened people. You might want to look up Christian Mysticism,
you are prime candidate for that kind of theology. Not bad stuff-- I mean that, no sarcasm
here. Some very open minded people about them self and life, and good insight.
You do not need volumes of books and science to show your god exist, it exist in your
imagination; in “reality” nothing but a play on words. You just need a little bit of guts to
admit the truth and understand how the English language works.
Now you can call me the most bitter person in the world--- but look what you have
done-1) set limits (the world) 2) you imply there are people that are less bitter than I. Are
people real and do they exist “Yes”, but have you measured every person? And what
standard did you use?--- your personal opinion.
I rest my case-- for the hundredth time.
So it is your turn to wave your hands-- Proclaim magic, jump up and down and make all
your accusations, kick up a dust storm and see if the dirt settles in your favor, or the
people will leave--- bring in confusion, list out your web sites--- quote your souses--
bring in your science and philosophy. Make your appeal to authority.
When you get done using your magic the “reality of words” will still be here and your god
is still in your imagination.
Don
PS-- I know my tone is sharp. I make no apologies, but I also say that Wade to me you are
not a bad person--your are smart, well educated, kind, and I truly wish you the best in
life. I do not dislike you in any way what so ever. Perhaps you would like to move to an
other topic-- like how can man advance when he depends on myths as guidance. Well that
depends what is in the myth does it not?
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