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Subject: Disputable morality

Author:
Wade A. Tisthammer

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Date Posted: 02/12/04 10:42am
In reply to: Duane 's message, "Sodomy?" on 02/11/04 10:41am

>Wade:

Duane:

For space reasons, I'll try to get to the main points.

>>In explanations of morality, eventually
>>you get to a point of irreducibility.
>
>No you don't.

Yes you do. If you don't think so, let's experiment and find out.

>>For instance, why is
>>stealing a candy bar from a store wrong? Because it
>>unfairly hurts their business. Why is that wrong?
>>Well...it just is.
>
>No, it's wrong because we, as a (large) group of
>humans, have decided it's wrong.

What is ethics than? Does merely believing an ethical statement to be true make it true? In that case, was it right for Hitler and the Nazis to slaughter millions of Jews (as they believed it was)?

I suspect you're reasoning is not quite satisfactory.

>>Making nuclear missiles seems stretching it, but
>>nonetheless I think the question, �Where do we draw
>>the line?� is a valid one. Should we legalize gay sex
>>but still outlaw gay sex between a father and his son?
>> Why or why not? Just where do we draw the
>>line?
>
>There is already a clear line. Volition.

Not that clear. A lot of people would agree on the belief that gay sex between a father and his son is not right even when it is consensual.

>If you are opposed to homosexual sexual relations,
>then you must be opposed to oral and anal sex between
>members of the opposite sex, in order to be
>biblically and legislatively consistent.

Really? On what grounds? I never claimed that I believe gay sex to be wrong merely because the legislature says so. And where in the Bible does it say that oral and anal sex are immoral?

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Replies:

Subject	Author	Date
Splitting hairs?	Duane	02/12/04 4:25pm

Splitting hairs...	Duane	02/15/04 9:17am
I need a haircut -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 02/17/04 11:32am