| Subject: Maybe all are just speculations? |
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QUITTNER
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Date Posted: 05/21/02 2:26pm
In reply to:
Brian
's message, "And Maybe all are wrong" on 05/17/02 11:28pm
>>>So? Are these authors in agreement on the ORIGINAL idea? Do they have access to documents not available to us? Unless they provide a clear case for what the original idea was, how do you know, among the competing religions, which best retains the original idea?<<<
..... Brian, read books, including many that are NOT part of the bible, and judge for yourself.
>>>What are you referring to by “what I have written”? And for what you have written to be closer, please explain – closer than what? And what is the standard you are using to determine that you are closer?<<<
..... what I have written/posted is probably closer to what really happened before the crucifixion of Jesus than what is generally believed, and what is based only on the books of the bible. What standard are believers in the truth of the bible's books applying? I think my standard is "better" because I have read also many books that are NOT a part of the bible.
>>>You have a hard time being definite in your ideas. “more likely” … very probably”. And make your responses specific to the question, not some pie-in-the-sky generality that can be applied to everything from Swiss cheese to modern poetry. Your original claim, unambiguously stated, was that if it was true that God inspired the authors of the Bible, then He has continued communicating with people since, and we must be heedful of these messages. Can you support the conclusion you say follows from the premise?<<<
..... Ask God!
>>>But is it not sufficient to assimilate the message that God put in the Bible? If we need something that did not make it into the Bible, how about those who had only the Bible before the new message was delivered?
..... No, it isn't. Clergy cannot limit God, requiring God to shut up because the clergy have their copyrighted "holy" writings that they don't want God ever to revise or even declare to be obsolete, even wrong and superseded.
>>>Beautiful dodge. The Mormons claim to be led by a prophet who has the same rights and powers that the prophets of old did. Since this sounds pretty clearly like being in communication with God, the Book of Mormon must be part of the new communication that we must heed, right?
..... No, members of an association are suppoed to adhere to their own principles, and their own clergy is also required to adhere to them.Those who call themselves "Christians" are required to adhere to what Jesus wanted, not to what was added later from outside sources.
>>>You are the one who phrased it in an unambiguous logical form. Now are you implying that what you said was not true?
..... Ask God whether it is/was true.
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