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Subject: Just a few rebuttals Author: Wade A. Tisthammer [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 10/ 9/04 6:40pm In reply to: QUITTNER 's message, "Just a few extracts" on 10/ 4/04 2:59pm >From page 10 of "The Historical Jesus and >Mythical Christ. A Lecture." by Gerald Massey: >"The Christ is the Good Shepherd! So was Horus. >Christ is the Lamb of God! So was Horus. >Christ is the Bread of Life! So was Horus. >Christ is the Truth and the Life! So was Horus. >Christ is the Fan-bearer! So was Horus. >Christ is the Lord! So was Horus." etc. The commonality of religious terms mean nothing. The same terms appear throughout religions without need of borrowing. For instance, the "good shepherd" or some other reference to being a shepherd is quite common, especially in pastoral-based cultures. What matters more to scholars is complex structures and detailed parallels, esp. regarding the life of the characters. In this respect for instance Horus and Jesus were very different from each other. The real non-superficial parallels just aren't there, e.g. a deity voluntarily dying a sacrificial death for the sins of humanity. And in fact, some of the titles attributed to Horus are bogus. That is, the shred of evidence for many of these alleged titles in any book of Egyptian religion is often lacking. I did some digging. It's easy to quote from Christ-mythers, but how about the original Egyptian records? I've seen these titles for Horus: Great God, Chief of the Powers, Master of Heaven, Avenger of His Father etc. But not very many of the titles you listed. And in fact if you look at a reputable encyclopedia (e.g. Britannica) you're likely to find very vew if any of the titles you mentioned. There's a good reason why mainstream scholars (who are generally not Christians) overwhelmingly reject the copycat theory and believe it's been discredited: because it has. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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Subject Author Date Re: Rebuttals: QUITTNER 10/12/04 10:05am Rejoinders -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 10/16/04 4:03pm Re: Ancient Egyptian beliefs were incorporated into Christianity -- QUITTNER, 10/18/04 11:28am I doubt it. -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 10/31/04 12:19pm Wade A. Tisthammer doubts it. -- QUITTNER, 11/ 4/04 1:26pm