|Subject: How is the Miss USA interview different than Miss America interview???|
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Date Posted: 09:58:07 01/13/15 Tue
http://m.wlky.com/news/uofl-volleyball-player-crowned-miss-kentucky-usa/30666298The new Miss KY USA was crowned Sunday night. It was her first ever pageant and she won the entire thing. She's 21 and recycled her old prom dress and all other dresses needed.
All I hear on this board is about coaches and consultants. Are he two programs that different that Miss America girls have to have all this consulting and a new girl couldn't win bc she isn't a veteran? Doesn't walk perfectly, hasn't "branded" herself.
Here is a link of the new miss Ky's post pageant interview.
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- She isn't polished at all, but I would rather listen to her talk than most pageant veteran's. She is real, herself, and hasn't had the time obviously to turn into a pageant party. (NT) -- No name, 10:07:58 01/13/15 Tue
- I think the most telling part of this interview (besides the fact that she is beautiful) is that the state director has been personally trying to recruit her for two years. USA state franchises are a profit-making business for the directors so they have far fewer restrictions on their interactions with the judges than MAO EDs have. It varies from state to state but USA directors are afforded much more latitude to be much more direct about who they want as a titleholder because that young woman's placement at Miss USA is part of their income.
(NT) -- No name, 10:17:01 01/13/15 Tue
- I thought that was odd too when she mentioned that. But how does the director know she's going to do well at USA? That's a big chance to take rigging your pageant on. Wouldn't the director want to have the person the judges actually liked best and thought would do the best at USA? Or do you think the director just thinks she knows best? (NT) -- No name, 10:26:27 01/13/15 Tue
- Well first of all it is NOT "rigging" for a USA state director to be very involved with the selection of their candidate for the Miss USA pageant. Keep in mind that it is akin to Paula & Trump walking the line-up at Miss USA and hand-picking half the finalists themselves. As to how do they know I can only reply that it is their business to know! Their profits depends on the judges getting it right & sending a contender to Miss USA because the higher she places the more they earn. It would be fiscally irresponsible for a USA state director to not have honed their discernment skill when it comes to knowing a winner when they see one. Like all good business owners when it comes to the bottom line they do their best to leave very little to chance.
(NT) -- No name (), 10:52:49 01/13/15 Tue
- I guess my thought is...if she's hiring competent judges. They're going to pick the best girl. So why need to tell them who to pick? (NT) -- No name, 10:59:09 01/13/15 Tue
- I have issues with this from an ethical perspective. When you enter a pageant, you expect to have a fair shot at getting a judge's attention and a high score. Highest score wins (or gets you to the final ballot). It's not a game of chance, it's a game of SKILL. Sorry, this process just isn't ethical. (NT) -- No name, 11:16:47 01/13/15 Tue
- There is absolutely nothing unethical about running a profitable business & that is exactly what USA pageants are on every level. If young woman are paying hundreds of dollars for a chance to be picked out of the crowd don't know that going in, then shame on them. The truth is, the most skilled are usually the best contenders & thus do almost always have the best chance to wind-up as finalists, but the process of how that happens is completely different between USA & MAO and the reason for that is MAO directors have no financial stake in the outcome & USA directors do.
(NT) -- No name (), 11:43:33 01/13/15 Tue
- Then why bother having the charade of judges? Let the director pick their favorite, crown them, move on. THAT would be honest and ethical. And I will say that MAO directors have a TON of "financial stake". Running a local costs between $3,000-$5,000 in our state. A state program usually has a budget of about $100,000. If the program revenues don't cover the expenses, guess who gets to pay for it? (NT) -- No name, 12:05:32 01/13/15 Tue
- Exactly. Why bother having judges at all? (NT) -- No name, 12:21:12 01/13/15 Tue
- I don't know how to respond to that irrationality. I do however want to point out that there is a huge difference between MAO local & state directors having financial responsibility for the production of their pageants ~ which they certainly do & in which they often take a loss ~ and having a financial stake in who actually wins the pageant ~ which they most certainly do not. In fact local directors are lucky to get a handshake before the state takes their titleholder & it's the same for state EDs when their titleholder wins Miss America. Contrast that with the USA system directors who are allowed to charge both contestants & audiences as much as the market will allow & then are given monetary bonuses for how well their titleholders place at the next level. No comparison whatsoever!
(NT) -- No name (), 12:27:50 01/13/15 Tue
- As an MAO volunteer, I'd also like to add: If you honestly believe that impropriety and "rigging" don't go on within the MAO system, you are either delusional, incredibly naive, or lying to yourself. At least the MUO is up front about how they pick their winners. But make no mistake, I've been on judging panels within the MAO where we were CLEARLY told who to pick. Also, the job of judge's chair is often used to pull in judges that you know will be swayed to vote for the ED's pick. It happens. (NT) -- No name, 13:57:55 01/13/15 Tue
- I do not believe you and here's why: Not because I don't think there may be some MAO EDs out there who will stretch the limits or ever go past them to get their own way, but because if what you said was true we'd already know about it & probably know who you are. I think it would be nearly impossible to find a judges panel that wouldn't have at least 1 person on it that would simply not be told what to do & if told what to do would scream about it to anyone who would listen. Any local or state pageant that actually told a judge's panel specifically by name who to crown as winner would be outed in a heartbeat. The fact that you claim to have been subjected to this & did nothing is rather obscene. If I ever had factual evidence that something like that had ever happened without consequence, I would never have anything to do with the MAO again.
(NT) -- No name (), 15:35:56 01/13/15 Tue
- Believe what you want, that's how this organization keeps chugging along, backed by people who turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to the shenanigans that go on. Since there is no way to provide you with factual evidence (this happened in the 90's), you just go right on believing that every local and state pageant is on the up and up. And PS, I said I was no longer a volunteer judge for the system. The reason I stopped volunteering was the very issue I brought up above. (NT) -- No name, 15:45:22 01/13/15 Tue
- OIC ~ you meant former MAO volunteer above & that's good to hear because anyone who doesn't the the courage of their convictions to stand up for the integrity of the program they're volunteering for shouldn't be a part of it. If I were to believe you (I still don't) then you are as bad as the ED you refuse to name, at the pageant you refuse to name, in the state you refuse to name because you'll only do what's easiest instead of doing what's best. Hypothetically if this behavior was a common as you say it is, then it would be because of people like you who refused to simply do the right thing at the right time. So,true or not, shame on you. BTW if you haven't been an MAO volunteer for almost 2 decades why do you think you're up to speed on the integrity of it's current day volunteers?
(NT) -- No name (), 16:02:48 01/13/15 Tue
- Well when is the last time a KY USA girl has made finals??? -- No name, 13:51:12 01/14/15 Wed
- Let's try to get back on track...
About the question of USA vs MAO interview differences they are significant both in style & in judge's instructions. I've judged in a couple of states that did panel style interviews but for the most part USA is more like speed dating with each judge getting 5 minutes with each girl up close & personal. It's more a brief conservation than an interview & judges are clicking off a physicality checklist in their heads at the same time. Judges are instructed to notice things about a contestant when she is across a table from them that they might miss when she is across a stage.
(NT) -- No name (), 12:52:07 01/13/15 Tue
- (NT) -- No name (), 12:52:40 01/13/15 Tue
- From working with girls in both systems, Miss USA state interviews are more like a cocktail party...like the above poster said, each judge just sits and talks briefly with each contestant for 3 minutes. They don't really ask current events questions - instead they just are chatting and getting to know the girl a little bit. They may ask a general current event question but it's not anything like the questions you see in an MAO interview where they're grilling the girl at a press conference... (NT) -- No name, 12:59:54 01/13/15 Tue
- She is certainly a beautiful young woman and she is definitely not your typical pageant girl. She's an athlete. She speaks like one too. Those are the qualities that distinguished her from the other contestants. She'll use her title to become a sports broadcaster. We'll see her on ESPN. It's good PR for her and the Miss USA Pageant. (NT) -- No name, 14:39:36 01/13/15 Tue
- My daughter was recruited by both mao and muo pageant directors to compete in their pageants. Nothing wrong with encouraging girls to get involved. However we were aware of local mao EDs who judges each other's pageants and chose the former winners of the other ED. There is a lot more familiarity within the mao family since girls start as teens And compete multi (NT) -- No name, 08:26:57 01/14/15 Wed
- gown in usa -- ., 15:44:29 01/14/15 Wed
- Usa is one on one. (NT) -- No name, 22:07:41 01/14/15 Wed