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Subject: Gretchen was toxic from the moment she won her state crown. After winning Miss America, she was difficult to deal with and wanted to get rid of the physical fitness aspect of competition as she hated having to compete in it herself. She elvated herself to a god like status in her mind the moment that crown hit her head, which we all know that year the judges admitted the wrong person won! Author: No name [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 02:26:21 04/25/25 Fri Author Host/IP: syn-098-156-209-228.res.spectrum.com/98.156.209.228 In reply to: 's message, "I don't know of a Miss America whose win went to her head, as the judges make awfully good picks after interviewing them for 10 minutes or so. However, some formers have been faced with some major life challenges. For example, I think that Gretchen Carlson was a perfectly lovely young woman when she won but she had to face a toxic work environment that IMHO (as a spectator) might have hardened her." on 00:40:05 04/25/25 Fri [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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Subject Author Date I remember reading an article about her during her year. The reporter had been conducting an interview with her and described her as being very cold and aloof. Also, in her book, she talks about having a problem getting a custom made swimsuit , something about no one wanted to make one for her because they didn't consider her competitive in that category. I guess that's why she hated swimsuit competition. (NT) No name (150.sub-174-238-97.myvzw.com/174.238.97.150) 03:34:31 04/25/25 Fri She also mentioned in her book she took a full year off from school for prep, which seems a bit much. Also only winner, I am aware of, who said beauty doesn't matter but decided to wear her crowning dress to her anniversary breakfast in AC. (NT) -- No name, 09:52:22 04/25/25 Fri (c-73-98-223-111.hsd1.ut.comcast.net/73.98.223.111) Do you mean the blue sequined gown she was crowned in? To breakfast, lol. Maybe she just wanted to stress the fact that she was still able to get into after all these years. However, I'm sure that could have hurt the feelings of the ones who were not still at their "competition weight." I personally never understood the backlash against Gretchen before she screwed up Miss America. Even though I thought she came across a bit frosty, I just thought she had never thawed out from all those Minnesota winter. In my opinion, she was a worthy winner. Stamford don't play and her talent was off the charts. One of the most talented winners ever. However, just like Tara Holland, she wasn't running for Miss Congeniality. (NT) -- No name, 14:15:24 04/25/25 Fri (173.sub-174-247-11.myvzw.com/174.247.11.173) Maybe not but miss America meets with a lot of people in her year and she should be congenial. I met Shauna Gambil and she was not very nice (NT) -- No name, 15:18:27 04/25/25 Fri (39.sub-174-227-78.myvzw.com/174.227.78.39) Was Shauna just not initiating interactions, instead quiet, keeping to herself? Or flat out rude in talking to others? (NT) -- Surely there have been quiet titleholders, doesn’t mean not nice, 21:26:51 04/27/25 Sun (99-7-233-117.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net/99.7.233.117) She made it clear that she would rather not interact with people (NT) -- No name, 23:31:51 04/29/25 Tue (syn-076-093-073-016.res.spectrum.com/76.93.73.16)