You remove talent and you have a USA competition and look at the mess that program is in. Without talent, this competition becomes void of any entertainment value. And i agree with you that Miss America should be fit and attractive. What people continually forget, including Gretchen Carlson who nearly destroyed this prorgam by spouting off that "we will no longer judge a candidate on their physical appearance," is that as long as their is a final ballot in place, you will never get an unfit, unattractive Miss America. -- Pageant Guru Message Board

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Subject: You remove talent and you have a USA competition and look at the mess that program is in. Without talent, this competition becomes void of any entertainment value. And i agree with you that Miss America should be fit and attractive. What people continually forget, including Gretchen Carlson who nearly destroyed this prorgam by spouting off that "we will no longer judge a candidate on their physical appearance," is that as long as their is a final ballot in place, you will never get an unfit, unattractive Miss America.

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In reply to: 's message, "Miss America should be beautiful. And no I dont mean this new idea of beauty is subjective. Sorry but talent at 30% is ridiculous and if anything it should be removed. I agree Miss America should be well-spoken, intelligent and relateable but she should also be a gorgeous and fit woman since you are going to be the face of the brand and women across America." on 11:28:14 09/06/25 Sat

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So, what is beautiful? (NT) No name
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