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Subject: So what exactly has the Virginia leadership done that has alienated these long-standing locals, as well as so many of the formers? And why does Mark continue to act like everything is all sunshine and roses, despite the obvious problems that the Virginia organization has? Author: No name [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 21:53:22 10/09/25 Thu Author Host/IP: 184-97-5-201.lcrs.centurylink.net/184.97.5.201 In reply to: Sad times in VA 's message, "Exactly. Several locals from last year and previous years are not returning, but no legal letters or threats were sent their way. It's only because the two mentioned here that are leaving are two Miss Virginia legacy pageants, having been participants for decades. Their departures are an embarrassment to Nancy and Mark, directly attributed to their poor leadership (see above comment from the Miss Arlington Board member). With the departure of these two mammoth locals and the boycott of 20 Forever Miss Virginias not attending the Miss Virginia Pageant this past June, the two directors simply do not have a handle on this "Opportunity," like they'd want everyone to believe. They're small and petty and narcissistic, and their actions are always retaliatory. At some point, sponsor, donors and the rest of the locals will come to their senses and depart as well." on 10:58:41 10/09/25 Thu [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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Subject Author Date For those not in attendance, can you say who the Miss VA’s were that chose to stay away? That’s a serious statement to make (not attending), without saying a word. I applaud them for taking a stand. (NT) No name (c-73-152-253-5.hsd1.va.comcast.net/73.152.253.5) 04:06:16 10/13/25 Mon They said many words, right down to penning a long letter to the board explaining why they would not be in attendance. It spoke to the poor leadership by Nancy and Mark, the ousting of multiple board members, and ultimately that they would not support this direction but would love to come back if the organization returned to its logical roots. The letter was posted here for a while and taken down. -- No name, 22:28:30 10/13/25 Mon (108-94-108-63.lightspeed.rlghnc.sbcglobal.net/108.94.108.63) Most of the formers 2005 forward signed their name. Many who did not sign their name did not do so due to fear of retaliation for their local orgs contestants but did not show up for the anniversary celebration in solidarity (NT) -- More Miss VA's are AGAINST this leadership than FOR, 10:58:45 10/14/25 Tue (proxyium.com.socks-nyc/104.236.201.30)