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Date Posted: 08:48:07 07/13/13 Sat
Author: Joe Rizoli (Bunch of morons, except a few)
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Subject: FramGov Lefty Liberal nutjobs

FramGov Lefty Liberals


This brief quote of a post is from the FramGov site. Yo will notice the Liberal lefty nutjobs, a lot of Jewish origin, with their brains up their asses discussing the Adult ESL program.
To much to quote so get the link and notice the people that should be shipped out of the country to Israel. Some of these people are real assholes, but I can't say that on the FramGov in the fishbowl quotes on the FramGov list because the mother hen would kick me off the list.


Re[2]: Re[2]: Warrant Review, April 25, 7 PM, Costin Room at the Main Library
Later topic Group Earlier topic
From: Linda Dunbrack
Date: 10:08pm, Apr 29

Let's not pretend that cutting CDBG funding for the Adult ESL program is going
to have a significant impact on the immigrant population in Framingham or on
school costs, for that matter. Most of the Adult ESL program is funded through
sources other than the CDBG grant, which funds about 2 classes. (Simple math:
a class is about $10,000).

"Because of this lack of oversight we are paying over 24 million dollars a
year to educated the children of illegals in Framingham. If there were no
enticements like ESL we wouldn't have that huge cost."--Jim Rizoli

As Ned's analysis pointed out, the $24 million number estimate of the
additional cost of providing educational services is as inflated as it could
possibly be. It assumes all students in the ELL program are illegal, and that
all additional costs that are greater than Natick's are created by the need to
service English Language Learners. Talk about a skewed set of assumptions.

I know one reason Natick's costs are so much lower that Framingham's, one that
actually happens to have some evidence to support it instead of made-up

Natick's average teacher salary is much lower than Framingham's. Here is the
summary of the differences for the past 6 years:

2007: $7850
2008: $5502
2009: $8311
2010: $8597
2011: $7583
2012: $6140

Pretty simple math, I think.

I know a second reason: In 2012, Framingham spent 27% of its budget on special
education, and Natick spent only 21.6% of its budget on special education (a
budget that was already less per student due to the lower teacher salary).

More simple math.

Given the affordable housing costs in Framingham, we are likely to continue to
be a destination for all immigrants regardless of their immigration status.
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