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Subject: Re: Placement Author: Jan R to Mindy [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 10:17:22 06/18/25 Wed In reply to: Mork and Mindy 's message, "Re: Placement" on 08:03:30 06/18/25 Wed Hi Mindy, I don't recall posting about my birthday. Yes I will be 17 mid-July. Age isn't a factor here according to dad. Behavior is. So I guess I could be 27 and if still home and did something dumb. That would be kinda weird though. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Placement Author: Mork and Mindy [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 09:20:01 06/19/25 Thu Hi JanR --- Memory or not, nice to be able to send you an early happy birthday. Having benefited myself from being spanked, as discipline, far far older than you are now, providing you accept it as fair, right and needed, I would agree with your parents that age isn't a factor, behavior is. On getting it at 27 I can tell you it's no weirder than getting it at 17. Others might think so but for you, your parents, it won't be. The good news is, at 27, it's likely to be a much less frequent thing whether it's a parent or a spouse, or friend for that matter, doing what has to be done for you. Having discovered the very real benefits of being held accountable with consequences it will be interesting to see if you seek a spouse, as I did, who will continue. But, that's a ways off! Right now, a few weeks early, Happy Birthday! Mindy [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Placement Author: Jan R to Mindy [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 09:52:25 06/19/25 Thu Dear Mindy, Thank you so much for the early Happy Birthday. Yes I know that my parents discipline is beneficial to me. Hard to think that way in the moment but every time I am back in my room after dad allows me off the table I will be laying on my bed face down of course, sometimes still fully nude and think to myself, yeah, I totally deserved that. I kinda hope that by 27 I have outgrown spankings. Actually I wished that were the case at 17 and we'll see. I have a feeling it's no. BTW yes, there will be the traditional Birthday Spanking. Thank God it's not in dad's study and not with his strap. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Birthday Spanking! ...Re: Placement Author: Mork and Mindy [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:28:21 06/19/25 Thu Hi JanR, I'm glad that afterwards you're able to understand you did deserve the spanking as that is the first and mature step to using it not as a reason for anger and resentment but rather a learning experience to be better. Sadly, I expect you're right that at 17, even what's left of 16, you won't have outgrown spankings. Didn't happen for me, anyways. Perhaps you'll be the exception to the rule. Hope so. Birthday spankings have never been a tradition in this house. Or the one I grew up in, or Mork's. In some families they seem to be token swats plus 'one to grow up on' while in others a full OTK bare event closes out things missed in the past year and serves as a reminder to behave in the coming year. What is a birthday spanking at your house? Mindy [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Placement Author: Jan R to Mindy [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:42:05 06/19/25 Thu Dear Mindy, No resentment here. I have no doubt my parents have my best interest at heart. I'm sure that I haven't outgrown mine yet. Thank you for the well wishes. I will stay spank free for as long as I can. Birthday spankings here are sorta like the closing out the year thing. Dad will actually ask me if I have committed any spankable offense that I didn't get caught for. I'm a very poor liar and dad is very good at reading body language. My answer is "Yes sir." Following that little conversation dad will ask me when I want my traditional spanking. I usually choose just before bed. My spankings are carried out just like they were when I was smaller except I'm not fully nude. I will wait on my bed in a tee shirt and my panties. Mom and dad come in and once again wish me happy birthday. Dad sits down on my bed and I put myself over his lap. Then I will get 16 fairly hard swats with his hand plus number 17 pretty hard. It's enough to bring tears but nothing like getting it nude with the strap. Dad always huggs me and kisses me on the head. Mom huggs me too. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Placement Author: Louise Vancisic Vancisic [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:13:44 06/19/25 Thu Hi Jan. Are those tears of pain, tears of love or both? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Placement Author: Jan R to Louise [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:56:20 06/19/25 Thu Hi Louise, I would say both. At 16 a hand spanking over my panties still brings tears but nothing like a real spanking does. I guess you could say that this hand spanking at the end of the year represents my parents holding me accountable for things I probably would have gotten a real spanking for but wasn't confronted with, if that makes any sense. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Placement Author: Louise Vancisic Vancisic [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 09:56:29 06/23/25 Mon Dearest Jan. That makes total sense, and it is accomplishing what you parents intend. It is both an intensely bonding and cathartic ritual. Your parents spank you in that manner to show their concern for your well-being. And allowing you keep your panties for the spanking is a show of respect. What happens when the birthday spanking is concluded. I've written a few stories about the beauty of a loving birthday spanking. If you e-mail me, I will gladly share. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Placement Author: Jan R to Louise [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 10:14:20 06/23/25 Mon Dear Louise,In our house the BD spanking is the very last event of the day right before I go to sleep. It takes place in my room after I have gotten ready for bed which for me is a tee shirt and my panties. Dad sits on my bed and I lay across his lap. The tee comes up out of the way and he uses his hand to deliver the spanks. When it's over I get long huggs from both mom and dad and one last Happy Birthday and then it's into bed. I will see about emailing. I'm sure your stories are wonderful. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Placement Author: Louise Vancisic Vancisic [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 17:30:06 06/24/25 Tue Do you cry yourself to sleep? I hope you decide to e-mail. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Placement Author: Mork and Mindy [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:42:14 06/20/25 Fri Well, JanR, that's quite a way to close out one year and welcome a new. Depending on your outlook I suppose it's possible to be thankful for the spanking to close out the year with a clean slate. Rather start the new with a clean slate. Although you don't mention it, with the tears I assume he spanks bare? Do you know if your mom gets the same sort of birthday spanking? If you were given a choice between no birthday spanking or one to clear up the past year and start fresh, what would you choose? I'd choose the spanking, but not easy to ask for IF you had the choice that is. Mindy [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Placement Author: Jan R to Mindy [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:52:57 06/21/25 Sat Dear Mindy, One way to look at it is that's my parents way to ensure that I am truly help accountable for wrong doings, even if I'm not caught and disciplined at the time. No, not bare, it's over my panties on the BD spanking with dad's hand but he spanks pretty hard. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Placement Author: Mork and Mindy [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:46:06 06/22/25 Sun I'm surprised you keep your panties on. Do you think they give any spank protection aside from some modesty protection? Did you see above my asking if your mom also got birthday spankings? I assume she would but perhaps when you're not around? Although, for a birthday spanking you might well be. Is the birthday spanking tradition, especially the way your family does it, come from your mom's side or your dad's side of the family? Mindy [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Placement Author: Jan R to Mindy [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:52:50 06/22/25 Sun Dear Mindy, My panties get to stay on cuz this isn't really a punishment spanking but kind of a reminder that spankings are still on the table for the upcoming year, which I know already. Dad kinda wedgies my panties a little before he begins the spanking so It's bascially on the bare but yes, at least my front is covered. I'm not sure about mom if she gets BD spankings or not. If so, her spankings might be a little different than mine. The tradition comes from mom's side. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Placement Author: Mork and Mindy [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 07:31:23 06/24/25 Tue Dear JanR, Please excuse me but I couldn't help but smile when you wrote, "spankings are still on the table" --- both meanings. How might your mom's birthday spankings be different? Mindy [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Placement Author: Alfred22 spanking puns [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 06:46:30 06/25/25 Wed As a kid I strongly resented jokes about getting spanked. Here are two I found really annoying: 1. A good spanking never hurt anyone. (Said by adults of some actual spanking.) 2. A great artist is able to change a smiling face to a crying face with a single stroke of a brush. That's no big deal -- so can my Mom! (On the inside DoubleBubble chewing gum wrapper.) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Placement Author: Gisela [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 01:12:55 06/27/25 Fri Hello Alfred, I completely agree with you. For a child, a serious beating, whether deserved or undeserved, is a kind of catastrophe. It is the worst thing that can happen to him at this stage of his life. And yet, in my opinion, it is necessary from time to time for human society and order to function. Jokes about punishment thrashing are therefore completely inappropriate. I believe they arise because adults want to downplay the pain they inflict on children and ease their conscience. For some, it may also be because they enjoy the power they wield in doing so. Seeing a child cry and beg while being spanked is not a pleasant sight. It is necessary from time to time, it is the most effective means of discipline, but no one should enjoy it. At most, one can enjoy the desired effect when stubborn brats become well-behaved children again. Because that is truly satisfying! Warm regards - Gisela [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Placement and the Catastrophe of a Spanking Author: Alfred22 for Gisela [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 23:21:59 06/30/25 Mon Gisela has immense wisdom when describing how awesome a spanking is to a child. The anticipation of his or her next spanking is indeed the fear of the worst thing a child has a clear concept of and can imagine in graphic detail. What was the worst aspect of reflecting on my NEXT spanking for me was the thought of my again being unable to apologize sincerely enough to make the spanking end. I mistakenly believed that the spanks were continuing only because my expression of my remorse was inadequate. Every other time I was in great pain, my mother had made every effort to comfort me. In the middle of my next spanking I would again be hurting and she would NOT be comforting me. Rather she would be making my bottom hurt more. My crying and implorations to halt the spanking were again being ignored. Until I came up with the magic form of expressing my regret and remorse and suddenly my spanking ended. I did always believe that there was a magic set of words that caused the cessation of those horrible strokes across both sides of my bare bottom. However, I was never able to remember the last apology or what I took to be the magic words that made my ordeal come to an abrupt end. I should add that I was never given a determinate number of spanks in advance. I saw my spankings as the worst moments of my life. Gisela suggests that such moments are the oil that is necessary to lubricate the functioning of an orderly human society. She is spot on with this analysis and perhaps with the observation that there is no other, gentler and more joyful alternative path. I will reflect on this latter claim. I do think that McPhee's claim that Switzerland does not have an army bears on this topic. According to him, Switzerland IS an army. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Placement and the Catastrophe of a Spanking Author: Gisela for Alfred [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 22:02:26 07/01/25 Tue Wow, what a message. >a magic set of words that caused the cessation of those horrible strokes...< I need to think about it a bit, but I will reply in detail. How old were you back at that time? Warm regards, Gisela [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Placement and the Catastrophe of a Spanking Author: Alfred22 for Gisela [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 22:31:30 07/01/25 Tue It was when I was eight years old, I believe. It was definitely an instance of the logical fallacy known as Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc in Latin. In English "After this, so therefore, because of this. Or correlation doesn't prove causation. The last apology I tried, was followed by my last spank. I then naively reasoned that my last apology was what caused my spanking to end. Oh well! I did get much better at logic. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Placement Author: Jan R to Mindy [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 07:58:47 06/24/25 Tue Dear Mindy, Wow, I didn't even think of that when I wrote spankings are still on the table. Yes I meant the other meaning like, yeah I'm still gonna get them. In my case they are really on the table, the spanking table. Well, only a guess on my part but if daddy is spanking mom on her BD they might engage in other activities right after that I would rather not think about and also things that would never happen with me cuz I'm his daughter. That's kinda what I meant. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Placement Author: Mork and Mindy [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 05:54:01 06/25/25 Wed Perfectly understandable. Mindy [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Placement Author: Jan R to Mindy [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 09:50:46 06/25/25 Wed Dear Mindy, Anything else you would like to discuss. Questions? I like talking with you. Jan [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Placement Author: Mork and Mindy [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 06:23:21 06/26/25 Thu Hello JanR, what a lovely thing to say. Thank you! I find talking to you interesting and have enjoyed our conversations from time to time. I don't have any questions relating to our exchange above but I do wonder if you ever visit, post in, other groups? I rarely have looked at others and I don't think I've ever posted in any, but I may have years ago. I ask as I wonder if there might be something you'd said somewhere else that would elicit a question from me, but I'd come back here to post and ask. I feel safe here with OHM in charge. So, if you do post elsewhere, please let me know where. In the meantime have a wonderful day! Mindy [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Placement Author: Jan R to Mindy [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 07:00:08 06/26/25 Thu Dear Mindy, I tried posting on another Voy forum but that didn't last long. For some reason the minute a girl posts about getting it fully nude everyone calls you fake so I mainly just post here cuz this forum seems much more friendly. Plus there are other girls here who also get it or did get it fully nude so I feel more comfortable here. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Placement Author: Mork and Mindy [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:34:58 06/26/25 Thu Yes, I think this is a comfortable safe place. OHM has been at it a long time and keeps things honest. Mindy [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Placement Author: Jan R to Mindy [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:24:45 06/26/25 Thu Dear Mindy, I agree. I like it here. I just came back from our community pool. I love to lay out. Mom always makes sure I have plenty of sun screen on before I go. It's a short walk from our condo to the pool and mom and dad always remind me to wrap my towel around me when I'm walking back and forth to the pool. I swear sometimes I think parents are so lame. My suit is modest. It's a one piece and yeah some of my bottom shows but come on. Dad reminded me that failure to comply and I won't feel like going to the pool for a few days. I think you and I both know what that means. So my answer, yes daddy. Were your parents that strict when you were a teen? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Placement Author: Mork and Mindy [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:18:01 06/26/25 Thu Hi JanR --- No, not that strict on towels but back in my day cheeks didn't hang out quite the way they do now. Is the pool part of your condo? Mindy [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Placement Author: Jan R to Mindy [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:48:26 06/26/25 Thu Dear Mindy, Yes. The condos surround the pool area. Ours is a street over from the pool but a very short walk. OMG Mindy, you should see some of the suits that girls and young woman adults are wearing. OMG!!!!!! I mean their entire bare buttocks can be seen. It is so funny to watch the guys checking them out too. Yes, even in my suit my cheeks do hand out some. My suit is still considered full coverage. I would never be allowed to wear like thong bottoms like most of the girls out there. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Placement Author: Thea [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:34:45 06/26/25 Thu I make my foster daughters wear swimsuit cover-ups when they're leaving the pool. Loose shorts or a dress - it has to cover to at least mid-thigh. Swimsuits are for the beach or pool. Wearing them on the walk home is inappropriate. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Placement Author: Jan R to Thea [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:01:11 06/26/25 Thu Yes ma'am. My parents agree with you and I do cover up when I leave our house or the pool. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Placement Author: Thea [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:28:09 06/26/25 Thu Even if you're obeying the rule, the fact that you're on here complaining about a reasonable rule and calling your parents lame for enforcing it isn't a great attitude, regardless of my opinions on how they enforce it. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Placement Author: Jan R to Thea [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:54:32 06/26/25 Thu Ye's ma'am. I know. My dad has come on here before and if he comes on here again and sees that post he won't be happy. I suppose I could just fess up to what I posted and hope for the best. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Placement Author: Akfred22 for Jan R & Family [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 06:01:46 07/03/25 Thu Family of Jan R can be very proud parents. She seeks to be a good person and a conscientious contributor to constructive discussions here. Readers greatly benefit from the very existence of such a well-run forum and all of us know how useful it is and how normal it is to want to talk about self-control and related developmental issues. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Placement Author: Jan R [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 06:11:41 07/03/25 Thu Thank you so much for your kind words Alfred. Happy 4th tomorrow. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Placement Author: Jan R [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 06:49:33 07/03/25 Thu Happy 4th of July, Jan of R. There is phrase in the Declaration that we used in scouts: " And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor." It is the last sentence and we suggested that the members consider making such a pledge to each other. I feel that way about 243310 as a group, especially toward the persisting members like M & M and OHM. Best wishes for a safe tomorrow. A22 [ Post a Reply to This Message ]