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Date Posted: 12:12:44 04/19/02 Fri
Author: Chazman
Subject: Jim Shill, AKA The Christmas Goose!
In reply to: Jim 's message, "What??..Your smoke and mirrors?" on 13:03:49 04/18/02 Thu

>>#1. I play BGG, which is taught by Tom Sanders former
>>top NGCI for NG. He teaches the swing exactly the way
>>he did when working for them.
>
>Top NGCI is a lie.

Really? Why don't you ask the NG Corp. who had the highest approval rating as an instructor as tallied by their critique cards submitted by students?

>
>>
>>#2. Prior to that I played NG as was originaly taught
>>(or should I say miss taught) by the NG Corp. NGCIs of
>>whom I took lessons from. The fact that I really in
>>fact play SA or NG if you would call is documented by
>>Larry Olson the Vice Chairman of the NG Corp. of whom
>>I played a round of golf with at the Medinah C.C. (of
>>which I was his guest) a year or so ago.
>
>What about 3 seconds to better golf? Thought you loved
>that swing. What about the other 5 swings you swore
>were so fantastic last year?

Actually 3 Seconds to Better Golf's swing mechanics are very similar to what Tom Sanders teaches, an upper torso powered swing, pretty much what Moe doe too!

>>
>>#3. The "New" NG swing is NOT the same swing as taught
>>by Tom Sanders. Tom Sanders teaches a SA swing that
>>doesn't require loosey, goosey wrist action and is not
>>a hand and arm swing independent of the body as NG now
>>teaches.
>
>What kind of wrist action is required then? How can
>you create any speed without wrist action?

If you think wrist action is required to create clubhead speed you are more ignorant to swing mechanics then I thought. In any good golf swing the wrist action doesn't happen until after impact!

>
>>
>>The new NG swing is basicly CG swing mechanics with a
>>palm grip, and since it is performed with hand and arm
>>swing mechanics, it can hardly be compared to what Moe
>>does, because he is self professed "body" swinger!
>
>Not hand and arm swing mechanics! They say that the
>body moves first! So by your definition they are
>teaching a body swing too!

No they aren't, they are teaching a convoluted hodge podge of Ernest Jones's STC, with an SA setup. They ARE preaching a hand and arm swing, independent of the body. Now they are stating the body move first? Which is it, a body swing or a hand and arm one? Can't have it both ways just so the clueless NGCIs can cover all the bases!
>
>
>>
>>#4. As to what my purpose here is, well? To spread the
>>words of "Caveat Emptor", and be general all around
>>critic!
>
>The buyer should always beware, expecially when
>reading posts in a message forum such as this one.

Absolutely right!

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