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Date Posted: 23:15:56 02/28/03 Fri
Author: mildcat
Subject: Re: Serious Question about Siena & the Capital Region
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lsbal
's message, "Re: Serious Question about Siena & the Capital Region" on 23:04:38 02/28/03 Fri
You are right that Alosa was one of UNH's best, but this was about 10 years before his time. I actually just looked it up on UNH's web site...the guy's name was Derek Counts (not a bad basketball name). The thing about Counts was that he had no supporting cast (Alosa had Drapeau), and I think they won about 15 games in the 4 years he was there.
>>1988 was my sophomore year at UNH and I remember
>>coming home to Congreve Hall that night and hearing
>>about the win. Despite having a God-awful basketball
>>team that season, UNH had probably one of the best
>>guards in the history of the program at the time...do
>>you remember his name? It is driving me crazy. Years
>>later, a co-worker of mine who was going to Siena at
>>the time, and was at the game, recalled that the green
>>and yellow clad Siena faithful where chanting "midget,
>>midget" (he was undersized) when he got the ball...my
>>friend said that not only did he light them up from
>>the outside, but he dunked three times as well.
>>
>>>To soothe your nerves after I've riled up all you
>>>Danes' fans by even talking about Siena, let me
>>>interject a little NAC history as we approach the
>>>playoffs. I believe it was 1988 and Siena was the #1
>>>seed for the NAC playoffs with a 24-3 or 23-4 record
>>>with probably one league loss. UNH was having a
>>>hideous season -- had won two games (each by one
>>>point!!), the Coach's job was being threatened, they
>>>had to beat UVM in Burlington in the season finale to
>>>get the 8th and final seed for the playoffs. In
>these
>>>days, the tournament was held at the Hartford Civic
>>>Center for all three rounds. Siena is thinking NCAA
>>>tournament while UNH is thinking about saving the
>>>coaches job. Despite 25+ and 15+ point losses to
>>>Siena during the regular season, UNH managed to upset
>>>Siena and throttle their NCAA hopes. Mike Deane was
>>>beside himself, to say the least! Because, like you
>>>guys, I don't give a rat's backside about Siena, I
>>>can't recall if they got to the NIT. I've got to
>>>think that it is the all time NAC/AE tournament
>upset.
>>> Does that get me forgiveness for bring up Siena?
>
>I think that was during the Matt Alosa time? He was my
>all-time favorite UNH player.
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Re: Serious Question about Siena & the Capital Region -- NU Hoop Fan, 12:16:43 03/01/03 Sat
Derek Counts was a VERY good point guard. I think he was at UNH my freshman and sophomore year at NU.
I have the opportunity to work with both Siena and Albany alum at my Firm, and suffice to say, the hostilities between them when it comes to sports is more personal than anything I've seen in Boston between NU, BU, and BC alum.
I also have clients in Albany, and when I ask them about Albany sports it's like "why would you even care, Siena almost won the NIT in 1994 [I think that was the year they had Doremus Bennerman]." and these folks didn't go to Siena..
I'm thinking that Siena doesn't really have pro sports to think of (I know you have the AHL and a great CBA team), that the locals need something to align themselves with, so they align themselves with the one local school that does well... Siena.
This is my take on it..The Siena folk think that their stuff doesn't stink and that Albany is nothing more than a glamorized state school who is currently D-1. (For those who live in CT think about how a Yale Alum treats someone from Hartford, Quinnipiac, or CCSU).
When Siena was in the NAC their arrogance was legendary. In 88 and 89 they were GOOD, no doubt about it...and they let everyone know it. They also traveled very well (at least to Boston).
I'd argue the team they had in 88 that lost to UNH was a better team than the one in 89 that beat Stanford in the NCAA's in Greensboro.
Beating Siena and Mike Deane was a big deal when I was in school. I know Deane and Foges didn't get along, and I think that he and Jarvis couldn't stand each other, so that added something to it.
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Re: Serious Question about Siena & the Capital Region -- UNH_Alum_In_CT, 21:55:03 03/01/03 Sat
>You are right that Alosa was one of UNH's best, but
>this was about 10 years before his time. I actually
>just looked it up on UNH's web site...the guy's name
>was Derek Counts (not a bad basketball name). The
>thing about Counts was that he had no supporting cast
>(Alosa had Drapeau), and I think they won about 15
>games in the 4 years he was there.
Just wanted to confirm that yes it was Derek Counts. But I don't recall three dunks.
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Re: Serious Question about Siena & the Capital Region -- mildcat, 00:05:37 03/02/03 Sun
>>You are right that Alosa was one of UNH's best, but
>>this was about 10 years before his time. I actually
>>just looked it up on UNH's web site...the guy's name
>>was Derek Counts (not a bad basketball name). The
>>thing about Counts was that he had no supporting cast
>>(Alosa had Drapeau), and I think they won about 15
>>games in the 4 years he was there.
>
>
>Just wanted to confirm that yes it was Derek Counts.
>But I don't recall three dunks.
Probably some artistic license on my Siena friend's part...his vison may have been blurred by the tears...but he did mention dunks.
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Re: Serious Question about Siena & the Capital Region -- Don, 22:05:21 03/31/07 Sat
I was the manager of the UNH team that beat Siena that year...and we almost beat Niagara but lost 62-59, yes I still remember the score. Derek Counts was a good friend of mine who I have not spoken with in probably 15 years. Derek was 5'10 "maybe" quick, quick, quick, problem was no one could run with him, he was a high school phenom in Maine and he had no supporting cast, our center was Patrick Ewing's high school back up, so he didn't see a lot of time. I will never forget beating Siena, we were 4-24 and they were 24-3 I believe...anyway, good nostalgia...
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