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Date Posted: 12:16:43 03/01/03 Sat
Author: NU Hoop Fan
Subject: Re: Serious Question about Siena & the Capital Region
In reply to: mildcat 's message, "Re: Serious Question about Siena & the Capital Region" on 23:15:56 02/28/03 Fri

Derek Counts was a VERY good point guard. I think he was at UNH my freshman and sophomore year at NU.

I have the opportunity to work with both Siena and Albany alum at my Firm, and suffice to say, the hostilities between them when it comes to sports is more personal than anything I've seen in Boston between NU, BU, and BC alum.

I also have clients in Albany, and when I ask them about Albany sports it's like "why would you even care, Siena almost won the NIT in 1994 [I think that was the year they had Doremus Bennerman]." and these folks didn't go to Siena..

I'm thinking that Siena doesn't really have pro sports to think of (I know you have the AHL and a great CBA team), that the locals need something to align themselves with, so they align themselves with the one local school that does well... Siena.

This is my take on it..The Siena folk think that their stuff doesn't stink and that Albany is nothing more than a glamorized state school who is currently D-1. (For those who live in CT think about how a Yale Alum treats someone from Hartford, Quinnipiac, or CCSU).

When Siena was in the NAC their arrogance was legendary. In 88 and 89 they were GOOD, no doubt about it...and they let everyone know it. They also traveled very well (at least to Boston).

I'd argue the team they had in 88 that lost to UNH was a better team than the one in 89 that beat Stanford in the NCAA's in Greensboro.

Beating Siena and Mike Deane was a big deal when I was in school. I know Deane and Foges didn't get along, and I think that he and Jarvis couldn't stand each other, so that added something to it.

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[> [> [> [> Re: Serious Question about Siena & the Capital Region -- UNH_Alum_In_CT, 21:55:03 03/01/03 Sat

>You are right that Alosa was one of UNH's best, but
>this was about 10 years before his time. I actually
>just looked it up on UNH's web site...the guy's name
>was Derek Counts (not a bad basketball name). The
>thing about Counts was that he had no supporting cast
>(Alosa had Drapeau), and I think they won about 15
>games in the 4 years he was there.

Just wanted to confirm that yes it was Derek Counts. But I don't recall three dunks.

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Serious Question about Siena & the Capital Region -- mildcat, 00:05:37 03/02/03 Sun

>>You are right that Alosa was one of UNH's best, but
>>this was about 10 years before his time. I actually
>>just looked it up on UNH's web site...the guy's name
>>was Derek Counts (not a bad basketball name). The
>>thing about Counts was that he had no supporting cast
>>(Alosa had Drapeau), and I think they won about 15
>>games in the 4 years he was there.
>
>
>Just wanted to confirm that yes it was Derek Counts.
>But I don't recall three dunks.

Probably some artistic license on my Siena friend's part...his vison may have been blurred by the tears...but he did mention dunks.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Serious Question about Siena & the Capital Region -- Don, 22:05:21 03/31/07 Sat

I was the manager of the UNH team that beat Siena that year...and we almost beat Niagara but lost 62-59, yes I still remember the score. Derek Counts was a good friend of mine who I have not spoken with in probably 15 years. Derek was 5'10 "maybe" quick, quick, quick, problem was no one could run with him, he was a high school phenom in Maine and he had no supporting cast, our center was Patrick Ewing's high school back up, so he didn't see a lot of time. I will never forget beating Siena, we were 4-24 and they were 24-3 I believe...anyway, good nostalgia...

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