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Date Posted: 23:52:00 04/29/03 Tue
Author: NU Hoop Fan
Subject: Re: Interesting talk about Conference re-alignment
In reply to: Dane96 's message, "Interesting talk about Conference re-alignment" on 18:42:19 04/29/03 Tue

D96 -

Great article. I had lunch with Dave O'Brien a while back and he basically played out the same scenarios for me (not surprising since he used to be at Temple).

I've recast the conferences a few times (the joy of long plane rides to Mexico for work) and the hardest schools to re-slot are UMass, URI, and Richmond.

If things fall where they may and UMass and URI get stuck (I don't see them hooking up with the CAA/Big East schools, and the A-10 may disappear as we know it, and since they have football, there may be an issue with affiliations on their part) there are two logical homes.. the CAA and the AE. The CAA could wind up a big winner (it could mend a ton of fences with Richmond, if it wanted to) but it could get its 16 team league that's Mr. Yaeger's vision as follows:

This is a pie in the sky thing, but...

CAA North

NU
UMass
URI
Hofstra
Drexel
Delaware
Towson
GWU

CAA South
W&M
VCU
GMU
Charleston
JMU
ODU
Wilmington
Richmond

AE North

Maine
UVM
UNH
BU
Hartford
Albany

AE West

Stony Brook
Binghamton
UMBC
Duquesne
St. Bonnie's
Buffalo - probably won't be D-1 football for long

The CAA has an 9 team fooball league, and the AE would have 6 if Duquesne upgrades (UNH, Maine, Albany, SBU, Buffalo, Duquesne).

This is one of my scenarios, I have others, but this one is more logical than the others..

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[> [> Re: Interesting talk about Conference re-alignment -- mainejeff, 01:08:30 04/30/03 Wed

>D96 -
>
>Great article. I had lunch with Dave O'Brien a while
>back and he basically played out the same scenarios
>for me (not surprising since he used to be at Temple).
>
>I've recast the conferences a few times (the joy of
>long plane rides to Mexico for work) and the hardest
>schools to re-slot are UMass, URI, and Richmond.
>
>If things fall where they may and UMass and URI get
>stuck (I don't see them hooking up with the CAA/Big
>East schools, and the A-10 may disappear as we know
>it, and since they have football, there may be an
>issue with affiliations on their part) there are two
>logical homes.. the CAA and the AE. The CAA could
>wind up a big winner (it could mend a ton of fences
>with Richmond, if it wanted to) but it could get its
>16 team league that's Mr. Yaeger's vision as follows:
>
>This is a pie in the sky thing, but...
>
>CAA North
>
>NU
>UMass
>URI
>Hofstra
>Drexel
>Delaware
>Towson
>GWU
>
>CAA South
>W&M
>VCU
>GMU
>Charleston
>JMU
>ODU
>Wilmington
>Richmond
>
>AE North
>
>Maine
>UVM
>UNH
>BU
>Hartford
>Albany
>
>AE West
>
>Stony Brook
>Binghamton
>UMBC
>Duquesne
>St. Bonnie's
>Buffalo - probably won't be D-1 football for long
>
>The CAA has an 9 team fooball league, and the AE would
>have 6 if Duquesne upgrades (UNH, Maine, Albany, SBU,
>Buffalo, Duquesne).
>
>This is one of my scenarios, I have others, but this
>one is more logical than the others..

That's about as logical as Northeastern in the Big East.....Maine and UNH will be players in any 1-AA football movement among Eastern schools. They are too established and valuable (in terms of scheduling), and they have a pretty broad overall sports program.

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[> [> Re: Interesting talk about Conference re-alignment -- Josh, 08:13:32 04/30/03 Wed

Buffalo will never join the AE. For one thing, they don't even think that they're part of New York State. For the last 10 years they've done everything in their power to make it clear that they consider themselves a "midwestern" school.

They've poured millions upon millions of dollars into what is arguebly the worst Division I-A football team in the nation. Their attendance is as awful as their teams have been, and still they persist.

Of course they acknowledge that they're part of the New York State system when it comes to sucking as much money as they can out of the NY State legislature.

They would never be "team players" in AE. Who needs them (and if you get to know more about them, who would want them?).

Josh (SB alum)

>
>AE North
>
>Maine
>UVM
>UNH
>BU
>Hartford
>Albany
>
>AE West
>
>Stony Brook
>Binghamton
>UMBC
>Duquesne
>St. Bonnie's
>Buffalo - probably won't be D-1 football for long
>
>The CAA has an 9 team fooball league, and the AE would
>have 6 if Duquesne upgrades (UNH, Maine, Albany, SBU,
>Buffalo, Duquesne).
>
>This is one of my scenarios, I have others, but this
>one is more logical than the others..

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