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Subject: Re: on the yellow forum


Author:
spelvin (to Odd Job)
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Date Posted: 18:02:33 08/19/21 Thu
In reply to: Curious 's message, "Re: on the yellow forum" on 03:27:17 08/17/21 Tue

Odd Job:

I wanted to be sure that you saw these two messages:

https://www.voy.com/223876/13695.html
https://www.voy.com/223876/13703.html

I am eager to hear any comments which you may have.

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Odd Job
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Date Posted: 09:53:42 08/20/21 Fri

Well, it fits the pattern, doesn't it?
Domination.
Humiliation.
Conformity.
Acceptance.
When I was in college, nearly half a century ago, I'd heard of this stuff happening. I could never understand the appeal of the whole frat scene. Why would anyone voluntarily submit to such humiliation just to become a member of an organization?
First, dominate--an authority figure demands you do something you ordinarily wouldn't, such as remove your clothing in public. Sometimes, there's a way out, if the situation allows. No one forces you into a fraternity, but students at a public school have no choice. A wrinkle necked old fart in white shorts with a whistle around his neck tells you to get you ass bare and get in the pool, which is what happened to me. In the scenarios we're discussing, the authority figure is female, which considerably increases the humiliation and delivers a strong message--females are authority figures, from mothers to wives to nurses. Subliminally, boys are beginning to absorb the rules, females control sex, and if you want access between those thighs, you do what they tell you.
The humiliation is the essence of it. You must make the person feel helpless, so that he has no choice but to conform to your demands. Nudity, the complete absence of privacy or any protection clothes may confer, is useful here. Given that only humans wear clothes, it's a quick way to deprive someone of his humanity. (check this: https://www.icrc.org/en/doc/assets/files/other/irrc-867-reyes.pdf) Any drill instructor will tell you that the humiliation and harrassment of new recruits is intended break down his pesonality and substitute a more compliant one. That isn't really possible, but you can use behavioral, carrot-and-stick, reward and punishment, techniques just as well. The person learns to comply to avoid further punishment. (See also learned helplessness, which may be more applicable here.)
If he conforms, in this case, makes no protest, and follows orders, the punishment will either stop or at least diminish.
And now, he's accepted. A nice, docile, compliant member of the tribe. The soldier follows orders; the nude boy accepts the situation. Learned helplessness--his protests are ignored; the authority figures, even his parents, ignore him. There is nothing else to do, but at least he's rewarded by acceptance.
This hardly describes everyone; some people enjoy this. Some people pay a dominatrix to abuse them. To each his own, and while I'm the last person to condemn another's sexual predilections, I'm also quick to recognize a con. Unless you can actually shut down your brain long enough to believe the nonsense about fibers clogging filters, or diseases spread from wet swim suits, you can see this for what it was, just a small part of a much larger effort to tame males, starting with boys, to serve the society's agenda--produce, reproduce, defend.
Tell me how you view it?

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Author:
Naked And Unafraid
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Date Posted: 20:53:03 08/20/21 Fri

Once again, I feel that many of your assessments are absolutely spot-on. Even so, I would happily parade around naked for the enjoyment or education of any interested females- as long as I'm treated like a human being with feelings and NOT a slave or a zoo exhibit.

I'd be satisfying their voyeuristic urges and my exhibitionist urges at the same time. But only if I get to put my clothes back on if I'm no longer comfortable with the vibe, or leave altogether if I don't like the scene.

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