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Subject: Re: Spanking Protocol


Author:
Louise
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Date Posted: 12:01:08 10/28/25 Tue
In reply to: Natalie 's message, "Re: Spanking Protocol" on 20:31:21 10/24/25 Fri

Natalie - I will respond to your last message. But it's getting very long and I wonder if it wouldn't be better to do it via e-mail. Or at least open a separate thread called Pre spanking Protocol.

Your thoughts?

`Louise: I understand your point Natalie. The point is to add to the embarrassment which is a key part of the punishment. What are you wearing during the pre-spanking lecture? So, you can be grateful to your parents for that consideration.

Natalie: Most often I’m either wearing my school uniform because it’s a school day or wearing my nightgown because it’s Saturday morning and I just got up. Outside of those times, it’s whatever I’m wearing when I get into trouble.

Louise: Do they require you lift your dress or nightgown as a measure of submission?

1. Louise: I like the approach of you and your parents. However, requiring a verbal confession ensures that the girl knows exactly why she is going to be spanked.

Natalie: I think this isn’t really necessary between my parents and I because by the time they’re done with the lecture any lingering disagreement isn’t over what I did or didn’t do or said or didn’t say. It’s mostly over whether or not a spanking is needed to correct it or whether or not my choice was justifiable. I’ve come to the conclusion that sometimes I’m never going to see some circumstances the way my parents do and other times my perspective will be adjusted with a little more private thought.

A spanking I got just before the start of the school year is a good example. I had just received my reading list from the school and I printed out a copy for my mom and put it on her desk so she’d see it when she got home. The email was sent to her too, but this is what my mom expects me to do when I get an email from school. A little while after I heard my mom get home from work, I went down to her office to ask if I could use her credit card to order the books. My mom wasn’t there. I found out later she had stepped out to talk with one of our neighbors.

Her credit card was sitting on top of the email I’d printed out on her desk. I saw it and assumed that my mom wanted me to order the books. I grabbed her credit card, went up to my room and ordered my books. When I came back downstairs my mom was frantically searching for her credit card. At first, she was relieved seeing it in my hand, but then when she asked where I’d found it and I told her I’d taken it off her desk and ordered my books, she was dismayed.

I got quite the lecture from my mom and my dad, who arrived home less than five minutes into it. My parents were very upset I had just picked up the card and used it to buy stuff without getting their permission first. The fact that I thought I had permission because of how I found the card wasn’t good enough for them and in their eyes it was a betrayal of trust on top of stealing. We didn’t have any disagreement about what I did or even that I shouldn’t have done it. I understood I had made an error in judgment. Where I disagreed with my parents was that a spanking was necessary.

Their minds were made up and I accepted their decision because they’d heard me out. They even acknowledged having an understanding of my perspective, but they insisted that my perspective was completely wrong. My misunderstanding simply wasn’t a good enough excuse for them.

When I arrived in the living room with the paddle, my dad was explaining why I was getting a spanking to my brothers. I was just in time to hear the very simplified version, “Natalie took mom’s credit card without permission and used it. The credit card is a way to access the money mom earns for all the hard work she does every week. Taking something that doesn’t belong to you without permission from the owner is theft. Spending someone else’s money without their permission is theft. Natalie stole from mom and that is very bad behavior. Stealing is never OK.”

After hearing that simplified version it finally clicked in my head why my parents were so insistent on spanking me. The justification I’d thrown up for why I did it had been preventing me from really seeing what I’d done. Just saying the words that I’d stolen from my mom wouldn’t have ever made me understand what my dad’s simplified explanation did. I deserved that spanking, but confessing isn’t what helped me to understand.

Louise: You did an excellent job of presenting both your view and that of your parents. I think that your father’s explanation to your brother’s presented a much harsher picture of what happened. If I was one of them, I’d feel no sympathy for you. However, knowing all the details, my heart goes out to you. I admire your sensitivity totheir point of view but I disagree that you needed to be punished and certainly not in front of your brothers.

If you don’t mind, would you be willing to describe how you were spanked on that occasion? How did your brothers seem to react?

2. Louise: Again I commend your parents. They demonstrate the optimal mix of love and discipline. My friend says that he does not permit negotiating on the extend of the spanking but will listen to one appeal on allowing panties to remain up. Did you ever go beyond the limit of being annoying? Do they allow you to negotiate on a spanking?

Natalie; When I was 12 and desperately wanted to attend a school dance, I pushed beyond the limit. My grounding was through the night of the dance and all I wanted was to get off one day early. My parents felt missing the dance was an important part of the lesson I needed to learn and had no intention of allowing me to go. I pushed my luck even after two warnings, one from each of my parents and when I asked my dad one more time on the morning of the dance, he decided I had another lesson to learn. I got a spanking and was grounded for two more weeks. Now if I ask and they say no, I don’t ask again. If they say we’ll talk about it in a few days I wait for them to bring it up and if they don’t, neither do I.

The negotiation on a spanking is purely over whether or not I get one. The implement, location, length of the spanking are all non-negotiable. My parents will give the spanking they consider appropriate and that’s all there is to it. I can try to convince them a spanking isn’t necessary, but with very rare exception, it’s a lost cause.

Louise: I could negotiate on the how but not when I was already in trouble. I’d have to wait a few days before approaching my mother. I had two successful negotiations. One was establishing a standard for a panties down spanking and the other was for the “privilege” of lowering them by myself.

4. Louise: How much clothing are you required to remove? I actually preferred to take my own panties rather than have my mother do it.

Natalie; I usually have to remove all clothing below my waist or that falls below my waist. I am sometimes permitted to roll or tuck a top up rather than taking it off if it’s just a little too long.

Louise: I have to raise my dress or skirth but I don’t have to remove it. However, if it slips down and interferes with the spanking then I will be penalized with more spanks.

5. Louise: Both my mother and my correspondent did occasionally allow panties to remain up.

Natalie: My parents believe a bare bottom is an essential component of an effective spanking.

6. Louise: My mother saw it as a privilege. It was more humiliating when she did it. Most times I was granted that privilege and I was grateful for it.

Natalie: My parents did it when I was little, but since around the time I turned 11 it has become my responsibility. I think my parents consider the required exposure sufficiently embarrassing.

Louise: They sound like real softies.

7. Louise: Daddy is augmenting the humiliation to emphasize his authority. His daughter understands that she is completely at the mercy of his will. The man assured me that there is nothing sexual in such a preparation.

Honestly, the phrase “no matter how long it takes or what parts of her are touched” sends a chill down my spine. Neither of my parents need to emphasize their authority because they have my trust and respect. I listen to my parents, try to follow their rules and accept their punishments because I have confidence they are looking out for my best interest and well being.

Louise: I imagine that they’re very proud of you for that. I’m guessing that most of your spankings, like mine at your age, were for issues of responsibility rather than over bad behavior. Is that correct?

8. Louise: Are all or most of your spankings done in front of your brothers? Does it work the other way? How often are you spanked?

Natalie: Yes, both of them are usually present and at least one of them always is. The determining factor is if one of them is at another location when I’m getting a spanking. It’s exactly the same for Nathan. Noah, being younger, is a little different because a lot of the spankings he gets are more immediate without a real lecture. He’ll get caught do something he isn’t supposed to do and mom or dad will give him a spanking because he should no better or it’s dangerous or whatever the case maybe. If I’m there or Nathan is there or one of Noah’s friends, he gets spanked right in front of them. If not he gets a little more privacy that time. That will change when he gets a little older and the majority of his spanking are more formalized.

I’m spanked as often as my parents decide I need to be. Going back to January, I’ve been spanked 11 times so far this year.

9. Louise: Do you also get spanked by hand?

Natalie: No, I haven’t been spanked by hand in several years now. I get the paddle most often.

Louise: I averaged at least one a week when I was 14, much less when I was 15.

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Author:
Paula
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Date Posted: 11:26:30 10/29/25 Wed


Lousie, My worst spanking year was also at 14. I was sure I was “too big” for bare bottom spankings and my hormones had me in a constant snippy mood so two or three spankings a month for sure.
Since you were mostly spanked for “responsibility” issues and you were spanked weekly it seems your parents “looked” for reasons to take you over the lap?
You must have felt like there was nothing you could do to avoid being spanked?
For me it was attitude and sassing. I was spanked for muttering “whatever” under my breath and many times I was expressing my opinion and it suddenly became, “Don’t use that tone of voice with me young lady. Take your skirt off now!”
One horrible spanking I got was when I “rolled my eyes” at my aunt and mom spanked me in front of my aunt!

True, no requests or bargaining were effective right before a spanking (like please not in front of her!) but being spanked at that age was so embarrassing I really didn’t want to talk about it at all otherwise.
One "compromise" I got by asking if I could at least get a warning if I was being too sassy was that mom would make me lift my skirt and she’d give me a few smacks to the seat of my panties as a LAST warning.

Were there “responsibility” spankings you don’t think you deserved?
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Louise
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Date Posted: 17:18:21 10/30/25 Thu

Ho Paula. Thanks for your thoughtful response.

I sometimes wondered if they did look for reasons to spank me. But, in the end, I accepted their reasoning that it was to motivate me to stop daydreaming and focus on my family and personal obligations. I was a daydreamer and so I could not argue with them about that.

Though I was never openly disrespectful, they often considered gestures like an eye roll or a grimace to be an act of disrespect. One time I got spanked by my mother for stamping my foot when she refused to let me go out with my friends after school. Then when my father came home, he spanked me for being disrespectful to Mom.

Was your Mom's warning smacks effective? Did you feel grateful for it? How painful were those warning smacks?

Were you spanked bare, over your panties or it depended? How about the time you were spanked in front of your aunt?

There were responsibility spanking I felt were undeserved. Here is one that I felt was egregiously unfair.

One time when I was twelve, Mama had to go out and left me in charge. I was specifically told to supervise my younger brother doing his homework. George was not a serious student and wanted to go play. He lied to me and told me that he had less to do than he really had. I didn’t check his assignment sheet and after looking at what he had done, I let him go outside. The next day the teacher sent him home with a note for not doing his math homework.

Now he was scared and asked me what he should do. I told him that he had to show it to our mother right away. I wasn’t too sympathetic either since I thought I would be in trouble too. He gave the note to our mother. She called me in and sternly demanded to know what had happened. George volunteered that he had forgotten to do the assignment. Mama turned to me and asked if I’d checked his assignment book. Nervously, I admitted that I had not.

She looked sharply at my brother. “Your father will deal with you when he gets home.” He swallowed hard and nodded.

Mama turned back toward me. She lectured me too. I didn’t need to hear all of it; the key terms “young lady”, “irresponsible” and “not what I expect from a mature young lady’ conveyed it all. She was going to spank me.

I, of course, apologized profusely and promised it would never happen again. Mama’s response was a “well we’re going to make sure of that” followed by a crisp instruction to fetch a kitchen chair. It was then that I realized she might spank me in front of my brother. It had happened before but only when I had done something to him. In this case he had done something to me so I was perplexed. If anything, shouldn’t I be watching his punishment?

“I..is he going to watch?” I asked, biting my lower lip.

Mama saw my upset and her expression softened.

“Yes, sweetie. Your brother needs to understand that his actions not only affected him but you as well. I want him to understand all the consequences of his behavior. He needs to see that his actions hurt you too. And, it will benefit you too. Knowing how much you hate getting spanked in front of him, will, I know, motivate you to not forget to check his assignment book. It will help you to be the mature young lady that, we both know, you are fully capable of being, and I might add, usually are.”

I swallowed hard. I certainly didn’t like what I was hearing but it made sense. It made me feel a bit better to know that she had thought it out so carefully. And, while I certainly felt her disappointment and disapproval, I also felt, every bit as strongly, her love and dedication to my well being and development. I decided right then and there that I would not make any fuss. I would take my spanking like the big girl that I was. I brought over the chair.

As Mama took her place, I looked over at my brother. His eyes were filled with remorse over what he was causing me and perhaps, fear, over what I might do to him later. But Mama’s soothing explanation had calmed me down and hearing his heartfelt apologies to me, neutralized any thoughts of retribution. After all, it wasn’t like he was getting away with it scot-free. He’d get it from Daddy. I accepted his apology and told him that I wasn’t angry anymore.

“Just don’t do it again”, was my parting remark to him.

I looked back to my mother.


“I’m sorry I let you down, Mama. I’m ready for my spanking.”

Mama’s face broke into a warm smile. It wasn’t just my words; it was my spontaneity and sincerity that moved her. She pulled me toward her and gave me a hug and told me how proud I had just made her. I wasn’t naïve enough to think I would escape the spanking but I almost didn’t care. Winning back Mama’s confidence and trust was what was really important.

Moving to her right side, I placed my hands on her far knee and eased myself over her lap. A few wriggles and I was in position. I hoped that my sudden display of maturity would earn me the privilege of receiving the spanking over my skirt. I couldn’t remember the last time I’d gotten it over anything besides panties or bare skin. Still, with my brother watching, just maybe, this time she’d spare me that embarrassment. Looking back at her over my shoulder, her eyes told me that she was, indeed, giving it serious consideration.

Finally, she gave a slow troubled head shake.

“I’m sorry to have to do this”, she said, “but I feel it’s necessary for both you and your brother to appreciate just how seriously I take doing homework and supervising homework.”

My eyes went wet with profound disappointment, but I brought myself to nod my understanding and acceptance. I turned away and felt her lift my skirt and carefully pile it on my back. Clad in ankle socks I could picture the two columns of flesh that I presented. I blushed hotly and uttered a low moan. A coolness played along the length of my legs and the surface of my panties: a sensation that would surely not last for long. The color and heat was all in my face. Remorseful though he might be, my brother’s eyes would certainly be drawn to the sight of my pale under-cheeks, quivering lightly under their thin covering.

With one hand I grasped Mama’s left leg; the other touched the floor. I felt my long dark hair sweeping just above the surface of the floor. My brother’s sympathy notwithstanding, I could not escape the humiliation of being so postured before him. That, and with the painful act drawing ever nearer, the tears clouding my eyes rolled freely down my cheeks. Still, intent on showing Mama that I was a big girl, I limited my lips to expressions of acknowledgment, apology and assurances of future improvement.

“See what a good and brave sister, you have” she proudly told my brother. “She makes mistakes, but she owns up to them and accepts the consequences. You would do well to follow her example.”

Amidst my feelings of fear and embarrassment, her words actually inspired a touch of pride.

Then Mama asked me, sadness evident in her tone, if I was ready for my spanking. My response was a quiet but unhesitating, “yes, Mama.” Her hand touched lightly atop my right buttock, Mindful of the requirement to keep my bottom soft and relaxed, I forced all nervous tension to my toes, ankles and calves. Seconds passed. The hand lifted; my eyes squeezed shut. Then, a stinging slap landed on the very site of the gentle caress. More tense seconds passed and then fell another. The pattern was set for a rhythmic, measured spanking, like the sound of ocean waves crashing a rock wall, punctuated by little “oh’s” and ”ah’s” and as the heat built, longer “oooh’s.”

The intervals between smacks allowed me time to gather my wits and remind myself to maintain my reactions in “big girl” mode. They were not moments of relaxation or even of much relief. With my buttocks now continuously throbbing, the sting produced by each successive slap lasted progressively longer.

As my punishment progressed, Mama sternly scolded both of us. She seemed to have a full repertoire of ways to express my need to be more responsible and my brothers need to do his schoolwork and tell the truth. ”This isn’t the first time this has happened. I warned you and you see, Louise, I always keep my word. You’re a good girl but you need to be responsible for more than just yourself. We rely upon you to help your younger brother and sometimes that means checking out what he tells you.” Mama went on to point out my failure to check my brother’s work was inexcusable and that she wasn’t going to let me get away with it. “It’s for our own good, you know”. She paused, then continued with “your father and I spank you only because we love you and to help you be a responsible young lady.”

Perhaps since I was the one getting spanked, Mama’s lecture to George was considerably harsher, her tone severe and threatening; coldly reminding him that well after she was done with me, he would have a session with his father’s strap.

Despite my fervent intention to take my spanking without a fuss, I felt myself losing control and sensing my gasps, moans and sniffles achieving a steadily higher decibel level. And with each fresh smack my distress was being expressed ever more audibly. In time, my pride and courage crumbled, and I was weeping openly. ;

“Oooooooohhooooooooo” I sobbed as the anguish in my bottom reaching ever higher levels.

“Nooooo … Ooooohhhh … ooohhhhhh ... ppllleeeaassse … Mama … PLEASE!!!”

I begged, hips jerking hard against my mother’s lap; trim legs wiggling frantically; body arching against the left arm pressing across her back.

But the spanking continued, the blows falling in a slow, deliberate rhythm, first on one side of my twisting turning panty covered hillocks, then crossing to address the other. The torturous cadence went on and on, my bottom feeling like a hot, swollen ball of molten lead. I pictured the fearsome darkened stain under my panties and the bright pink at the edges. I was crying steadily and continuously. Still, each fresh slap, a heightened sting and a spike in my mournful ululations,, often punctuated with an “Ohhhh ..Mama” or an “Oh…please … Mama ..I’ll be good.”

Once Mama paused for an extended period of time to carefully examine my shivering, tensing behind, noting where the marks were the darkest and the nervous reaction seemed to be the strongest. Information she would use to determine how much more to spank and where it would be most effective. It was also intended as an opportunity for me to reflect on what I should have done that would have avoided this unfortunate situation. Even better I articulated those thoughts in the form of regrets and promises not to repeat my errant behavior.

Meanwhile, taking advantage of the respite, I squirmed a little, trying to readjust myself, to find a more comfortable position over Mama’s lap. When yet another minute passed, I turned my face back over my shoulder to look at her. There was compassion in her eyes.

“You’ve been a really good girl for your spanking”, she began, “and I truly commend you for that.” She drew a deep breath. “But this wasn’t the first time and so we need to make sure this lesson really sticks with the both of you. So, I’m going to give you a few more. I hope you understand.”

It wasn’t okay but hearing the words “a few more” gave me the strength to murmur a “y…es Mama..I understand.” But, at the sight of her rising hand, and her tightened grip against my waist, I unleashed a despairing sob, swiftly turned my face back to the floor, closed my eyes and waited for the resumption of the chastisement. This last set would be the hardest but at least the end seemed in sight.
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Author:
Paula
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Date Posted: 11:24:01 11/01/25 Sat


Louise, Thanks for a heartwarming embarrassing detail of your responsibility spanking.
Your mother’s measured but strict discipline reminds me of my spankings. Complete with the scolding and ritual of having to get the chair out and being told you would be spanked in front of your brother BECAUSE she knew how much you hated him seeing your panties smacked.
Sometimes when mom was taking my panties down (spanked bare except for a few occasions) she would tell me, “I know how much you hate this part. But it’s not a real spanking unless it’s bare bottom, right?”
And I’d have to “yes ma’m” her, much like you so cutely admitted to wrong doing and accepted being spanked in front of your brother like a big girl - until the horrid sting turned you into a sobbing mess.

i understand in your house with those rules your spanking was appropriate but it seems unfair that you never saw your brother’s spankings while he was allowed to watch you get it.
I guess he did have to wait for his dad’s strap which is awful but the embarrassment you faced was singular.

My aunt did get to see me spanked bare bottom for “rolling my eyes” at her and mom let her decide my punishment. So my aunt suggested a stand-up hand spanking, then the hairbrush!
Like the “warning” smacks I got (which weren’t very hard and only about ten - but shameful and scary) I had to hold up my skirt, mom slipped my panties to my knees and then slapped my bare bottom with steady sting as I moaned and wiggled, scolding me, with my aunt walking around to see me front and back.
Sobbing quietly in shame I was made to remove my skirt and panties and go fetch the hairbrush. Humiliated, crying, begging “please not the brush! You already SPANKED me! Take me to my room please mom! Don’t let her watch!”
Aunty smirked, “You roll your eyes at me then you can just deal with my eyes on you."

LIke you, I did NOT want to be a bawling begging baby but a bare bottom hairbrushing always did exactly that!
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Author:
Louise Vancisic Vancisic
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Date Posted: 07:44:41 11/04/25 Tue

I appreciate your empathy Paula. And I certainly empathize with your ordeal. How old were you the last time your aunt watched you get spanked? When you got hand spanked, were you crying more for the shame or the pain?

When you got the hairbrush, were you still standing or were you over your mother's lap? Did your aunt ever spank you?

How often did you get spanked and till what age?
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Author:
Louise
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Date Posted: 16:10:15 11/01/25 Sat

I appreciate your empathy Paula. And I certainly empathize with your ordeal. How old were you the last time your aunt watched you get spanked? When you got hand spanked, were you crying more for the shame or the pain?

When you got the hairbrush, were you still standing or were you over your mother's lap? Did your aunt ever spank you?

How often did you get spanked and till what age?
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Author:
Alan
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Date Posted: 18:16:45 10/30/25 Thu

Such a beautiful, loving story, Louise.
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Author:
Louise
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Date Posted: 04:35:06 11/01/25 Sat

Thank you Alan, I enjoyed sharing it.


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