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Subject: Note Home from School


Author:
Cathy
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Date Posted: 02:26:01 01/08/26 Thu

My 15-year-old daughter handed me a note from the principal. Before I could open the envelope, she was already giving me excuses. The note said that she was caught for the second time this year skipping a class. Her best friend was with her. They were both given detention after school today.

I scolded her and said apparently the first spanking you received was not hard enough. I reached into the side table and pulled out my paddle. I removed her school uniform and her panties and helped her over my knees. She was already crying. I said you might want to hold back your tears as you will be needing them soon. I gave her a good hand spanking followed by 20 firm swats of the paddle. I sent her to the corner sobbing to think about her behavior. her poor bottom was a dark crimson. After her corner time was up, she wanted to cuddle with me. We sat there for about an hour talking about what she did and several other things she wanted to know. I then told her to go to her room and get started on her homework. When I went to her room to get her for dinner, she was sitting at her desk still half naked sitting on her bed pillows. I told her to get dress and come to dinner. She had her pajamas on when she came into the kitchen.

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[> Subject: Re: Note Home from School


Author:
Donna to Cathy
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Date Posted: 07:29:10 01/08/26 Thu

Do you know if her friend got spanked at home too?
[> Subject: Re: Note Home from School


Author:
Cathy to Donna
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Date Posted: 13:09:38 01/08/26 Thu

Donna,
The mother and I are good friends and yes, a spanking was administered in that house also. She spanks the same way I do with hand and paddle.
[> Subject: Re: Note Home from School


Author:
Louise Vancisic
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Date Posted: 13:47:45 01/08/26 Thu

Hi Cathy,

That is a very good parenting, You spanked her for her poor behavior and then allowed for a loving reconciliation. That she wanted to cuddle with you is a good sign of her remorse at having let you down. Was she still crying at that point?

Do you always remove her clothes and panties for a spanking? Do you ever just lift her dress and spank her over her panties?
[> [> Subject: Re: Note Home from School


Author:
Cathy to Louise Vancisic
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Date Posted: 03:19:28 01/09/26 Fri

Louise,
All spanking are always given on their bare bottom. Either I or they will remove all their clothing from the waist down. This resents them from tripping over their clothing after the spanking is over. If they have a dress or skirt on they are removed along with her panties.

Both girls always want to cuddle after a spanking.
[> [> [> Subject: Re: Note Home from School


Author:
Cathy to Louise
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Date Posted: 03:12:37 01/10/26 Sat

Louise,
We have at time just flipped up their dress, but removing the dress /skirt just makes it easier for the spanker. We have never spanked any other way but on their bare bottoms.
[> [> Subject: Re: Note Home from School


Author:
Louise Vancisic
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Date Posted: 12:58:25 01/09/26 Fri

I don't recall ever tripping over my upturned dress. Or for that matter, my pulled down panties.

Have your girls ever requested to be spanked over their panties?
[> Subject: another child abuser


Author:
Emily Travers (not good parenting)
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Date Posted: 01:28:41 01/11/26 Sun

Repeat: NOT good parenting. Abuse. Vancisic you are a retarded asshole.
[> [> Subject: Re: another child abuser


Author:
To Emily
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Date Posted: 02:19:14 01/11/26 Sun

I assume you say all this because you were or are abused as a child/teen.
[> [> Subject: Re: another child abuser


Author:
Emily Travers
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Date Posted: 22:01:12 01/11/26 Sun

I've never been spanked in my life. My parents were GOOD parents, in other words.
[> [> [> Subject: Re: another child abuser


Author:
Brooke
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Date Posted: 07:23:24 01/12/26 Mon

Hello Emily. Parents can be good parents and still give spankings…..
[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: another child abuser


Author:
Louise Vancisic
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Date Posted: 07:54:46 01/12/26 Mon

I heartily endorse your view Brooke. I know that my mother considered spanking me as much of an act of love as taking care of me when I was sick.
[> [> [> [> Subject: and rationalizations can be evil


Author:
Emily Travers
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Date Posted: 21:49:30 01/13/26 Tue

Violence against children is not love, Louise.
[> [> Subject: what love actually is


Author:
Emily Travers
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Date Posted: 06:43:40 01/14/26 Wed

It is old hat to claim that violence is 'done out of love'. But there is no such thing as 'tough love'; it is a contradiction in terms. Yet because there is also no such thing as socialization without violence, many people conflate the two. Raising children does involve setting boundaries and limits, and because parents develop bad conscience in imposing these upon the children they are supposed to love, deeply held rationalizations are the result. Even the half of parents who report never having wanted children, either in the first place or in hindsight, must find a way to manage their misgivings.

Now, that said, physical violence after about age 8 is both unnecessary and unethical, given that the synaptic development around this age allows children to distinguish reason in argument and consistently understand social boundaries. Even so, symbolic violence perdures long after this point, and can be evidenced in how some adult children still approach abusive parents with a craven cowardice. In maintaining a mental defense against the contradictions inherent in child-raising, these parents continue to abuse their adult children by refusing to confront their own iniquity.

None of this approaches the conception of love, which is always patient, gentle, compassionate, and fore-bearing. If anything, adult children who engage in rationalization are attempting to love their parents, in spite of the suffering meted out to them as young people. This is a choice, of course, but it too can be seen as based upon the wider social stigmatism associated with those who break with their parents. My general critique, as an ethicist, is that the conversation between parent and child bereft of all rationalization seldom occurs. Parents, in an ongoing defense of their objectively lapsed authority, hold fast to the sense that 'I did what was necessary; why should I apologize?', and children, for their part, let them get away with this in order to defuse tension. Both parties are in the wrong, and both abet one another.

I there are any real children posting on this thread, I urge you to confront your parents regarding their abuse, whatever the cost. You may find that this opens up a portal to a more mature relationship between you. If not, then this is the clearest evidence possible that any such relations between you and your parents are unhealthy and should be jettisoned in order for you to get on with your life.

Just as an aside, I get paid $250.00 USD an hour for third party consults, but I felt like I owed this thread something or other given my own fractious behavior on it in years past.


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