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Subject: Re: [long] Spud at 14, bullying and spanking and a little history


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Lucas
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Date Posted: 08:46:00 03/28/26 Sat
In reply to: Graeme to Lucas (responding to some of your points) 's message, "Re: [long] Spud books, movies etc (1 pic)" on 21:25:38 03/27/26 Fri

> Yes John 'Spud' Milton is 13 years old when the novel
> opens. He turns 14 part way through the novel and his
> birthday prank is to have black shoe polish rubbed on
> his genitals.

I remember reading some advertising blurb for the second book (or maybe the second movie) that in it Spud is "14 years old and soon to be 15 years old, but still with no noticeable signs of puberty". I can empathise lol.

> Spud describes Gecko and Vern as 'two easier victims
> than me'.

It really is a total Lord of the Flies situation, that the only way to avoid being constantly victimised as the underdog (or smallest/weakest/most timid boy in the school or house or year), is to find someone, or two people, that are even more underdogs than he is!

> Spud first introduces Gecko:
> On the way down the stairs we pass the whitest human
> being I have ever seen. In the dim light of the
> stairway, his paleness creates a strange luminous
> light...

aha so the casting of Jamie Royal as Gecko was deliberate lol.

> Thanks to
> this sickly looking dude I escaped being the smallest
> boy in the house.

There's that theme again - you're OK so long as there's at least one person smaller (or easier to pick on) than you are.

> Gavin is often described
> as the weird prefect that lives under the stairs and
> has unusual pets

I like these bizarre touches. I wonder if some of them are based on things John van der Ruit experienced for real when he was at the school.

> A dark part
> of NZ and South African history is the 1981 Springbok
> Tour - protests against the Springbok tour because of
> the Apartheid. My grandfather walked in the protests
> with his motorcycle helmet - police hit protesters
> with their batons.

Wow! It's fascinating to think of the first Spud book being set nine years later - with Mandela being released from prison but still condemned as a criminal or terrorist by UK and USA governments. And then before Spud even finished school, the end of Apartheid and Mandela becoming President.

> At high school we were
> in four houses (called them canoes - waka).

That's actually quite clever cos I guess proper Polynesian war canoes could be massive and carry up to 80 people. I bet the teachers made lots of cheesy comments about rowing a canoe being a team effort and how it can only work if everyone pulls together and things like that :D

> athletics day and spirit week boys would face off
> against other canoes performing a haka. We also had
> haka practices. Girls would sit on the floor and
> watch. Female teachers walked around spreading the
> boys out so no one was hiding and everyone was seen. I
> hated haka practices. In my second year of Uni I had a
> flatmate that went to an all boys school and they had
> regular haka practices and they had to take their
> shirts off for haka practice.

wow it's all a bit weird really :)

> Pike the school bully is a third year boy.

I had misremembered that part slightly. I guess that makes Pike 15 turning 16 at the start of the first book. Which makes it really nasty for him and his friends to be bullying Spud who was only 13. I remember when I read the first book I really really really hated Pike lol

(Earthworm, prefect)
> Despite savagely beating Spud's fingers with the
> blackboard dusters he is quite protective of Spud.

This is the kind of weird part that because he has the power and privilege to punish and bully Spud himself, he doesn't think anyone else should be allowed to.

> Witnessed my first beating during Afrikaans class.

For those unfamiliar - this is a language very similar to Dutch, not an African language of any sort. Another reflection of the weird colonial background to the school. Michaelhouse school is located in the province of KwaZulu-Natal, which has a long complicated history. Zulu then Boer then British then Boer then Zulu again, or something like that.

In checking this I discovered where John van der Ruit possibly got the name "Luthuli" from. "Albert John Luthuli was a South African anti-apartheid activist, traditional leader, and politician who served as the President-General of the African National Congress from 1952 until his murder in 1967. Inspired by his Christian faith and the nonviolent methods used by Gandhi, Luthuli was praised for his dedication to nonviolent resistance against apartheid as well as his vision of a non-racial South African society. In 1961, Luthuli was awarded the 1960 Nobel Peace Prize (the first non-white person ever to receive it) for his role in leading the nonviolent anti-apartheid movement. Luthuli's supporters brand him as a global icon of peace similar to Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr, the latter of whom was a follower and admirer of Luthuli."

> finally drove Mr van Vuuren
> over the edge and he gave him a furious beating of two
> lashes with a sawn-off hockey stick in front of the
> class. I found the whole experience shocking

This is another episode that's so bizarre that I think it's almost certainly based on something that John van der Ruit witnessed for real in his early days at the school when he was 13.

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