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Subject: Re: The Double Standard


Author:
Gnome
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Date Posted: 14:44:29 10/27/25 Mon
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In reply to: Gnome 's message, "Re: The Double Standard" on 07:41:05 10/26/25 Sun

I can understand your curiosity if you never experienced this! When I grew up, you might see boys nude occasionally or even boys, and girls. No one got offended and you might chuckle and move on. Now I would not do the same of course. I had one neigbor, whose boy played outside on warm days and might be seen. Nothing was ever said of it, as it was normal for time.

As for the gym near college, I always swam nude and told to join other boys. Some wore a suit at mens hours in am. The double standard was not minded much by boys and common to see. You would shower and walk across hall to pool nude and way it was. After class instructor, in blue one piece and moms would go in and talk to boys changing. So swim class was hour or ninety mins and then rinse off to warm up. Sometimes we had classes back to back and I stayed nude for both. There was horse play after gym too of course and it was mostly let to happen for bit before told to go change.

The part that was never seen anymore though in summer we month long day summer camp and nudity was common during day in field too. It was boys only group though.

I did see dozens of things you would never see today.

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Author:
Nathalie
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Date Posted: 04:00:19 10/28/25 Tue
Author Host/IP: 203.190.14.168

I understand. It's also seems like nudity continued for boys much older than it did for my boy and his peers or cousins. I stopped bathing my son permanently when he was about 11 or so I think, when he declared that he would only bath alone from now on. It's usually the age our boys start asking for privacy, and so after that I gave him full privacy. I don't think after turning into a teenager he ever got naked in any public or open place even for a quick change. But here I see people talk about all the time how nudity wasn't a big for boys well into their teenage years like 15 or 16 or so.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: The Double Standard


Author:
Jocasta to Nathalie
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Date Posted: 04:58:33 10/29/25 Wed
Author Host/IP: 212.83.137.177

I think you are absolutely right and I respect your decision to ensure your son's privacy after entering puberty. However, children continue to be under parental control and parents are delegated the right to make decisions on behalf of their children until puberty. Until then, children of this age are considered minors and dependents. Therefore, complex privacy laws do not apply to them. Therefore, parents have the right, and sometimes are obliged (due to medical regulations) to accompany and attend examinations and cheks, involving partial or complete nudity including in their private area.
In this sense, have you ever seen your son naked for reasons beyond his or your control after entering puberty, and if so how did he accept these events.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: The Double Standard


Author:
Nathalie
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Date Posted: 09:59:05 10/29/25 Wed
Author Host/IP: 203.190.14.168

I stopped going inside the room with my son for medical exams after I started to give him privacy. Since he started puberty, I haven't seen him fully naked, other than accidental nudity on a few occasions, which happens when you live together. But I think accidental nudity doesn't count anyway. So no I haven't seen my son properly naked since he hit puberty.

The closest thing to nudity in front of me after puberty would be him openly peeing in front me. Out of all the nudity things I have mentioned in other replys, peeing openly is the only thing boys here continued to do a couple of years after hitting puberty. (By openly peeing I mean not being discreet when peeing. Of course even adults sometimes pee outside, but they do so discreetly in a hidden place). For example, my son didn't bother to close the bathroom door if he needed to pee. Or if we are outside and if he needed to go, he would just go anywhere. When we stayed at his grandparents, the boys would only pee in the yard lol. This continued even after puberty, like until 13 or maybe even 14 for my son. So if this counts, it's the one anomaly and the closest thing to nudity that continued after puberty age.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: The Double Standard


Author:
Gnome
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Date Posted: 01:35:49 10/30/25 Thu
Author Host/IP: 76.195.201.31

I used to swim out to a floating dock and sun and swim back put shorts back on and ride bikes when a boy all the time. At that public spot I stopped around 12 I guess.

Most nudity I saw though was at that gym being college assistant for boys. Like you mentioned moms, and sisters would enter boys room before and after activties. When I was still 17 I joined olders boy class there in late afternoon, and other times I was assistant for other classes. Saturday AM was usually mens hours too but not enforced and some women swam too towards end of period.

I would not see any people from college use gym, but often saw a teen girl my age watching a younger boy in boys room. I would shower when she was around often and she was obviously enjoying situation.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: The Double Standard


Author:
Sean
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Date Posted: 14:52:29 10/30/25 Thu
Author Host/IP: 76.195.201.31

I am trying to remember details of what I saw as a boy.

Like others mentioned I would see boys nude occasionally at a local park playing when girls are clothed. Some were maybe 8ish, I am not sure. I would join them too.

What I saw more often was one girl I played with, had her younger brother often naked at home. After visiting a few time at house the same mom said it is too and take of shorts too, in nice manner. I did of course and they were intentionally raising this boy nude at home. I was 10 when I started doing that too, but not too concerned at that age still.

I still went naked at lakes and beaches till 16 though. Both were remote and few people around and other boys did it too. I was required to go nude on beaches though and always did if other boys were naked. Sometimes there were only a few and sometimes maybe 1/3rd of boys were naked.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: keeping boys naked at home


Author:
Spelvin
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Date Posted: 09:05:11 11/02/25 Sun
Author Host/IP: 72.78.201.247

So nudity in the home was not only permitted, but mandated!
I have found a few cases similar to this.
What are some possible reasons for such a policy?
There are at least 5 reasons:

----for disciplinary purposes

Tina (2019, Voy 223876) had two brothers whom their mother undressed “to keep them under control.” Although the boys eventually became more accustomed to Tina and her friends seeing them nude, they never stopped having erections.

----for educational purposes

In 2013, when Raymond (2019, Voy 223876) was 13 years old, his 10-year-old sister Joanie was caught viewing pornography.
Their mother determined that the sister’s curiosity should be satisfied.

Their mother undressed Raymond in Joanie’s presence, which gave Raymond an erection.
That brought up another topic.

Mother gave Joanie instructions about handling Raymond’s genitals.
This resulted in an ejaculation, which brought up still another topic.
From then on, Raymond was kept nude at home for Joanie to see, to observe, and ask further questions.

----to alleviate the laundry work

During the coronavirus quarantine, the parents of 13-year-old James (2020, Voy 223876) forced him to stay naked.
Their stated reason was a wish to cut expenses from using of the washing machine.

But there seemed to be another reason.
James was unwilling to comply, partly because he was physically immature.
James’ parents were insensitive to his feelings of immaturity.
His mother insisted that he was “still her baby.”
Both parents teased him by pinching and slapping his rump. When he erected, both parents poked and tickled his penis.

----for everyone else's enjoyment

In 2019, Anton wrote a couple of messages to the Voy 223876 forum, stating that he was an 11-year-old boy living in an apartment with his older sister, his older sister’s friend, and his older sister’s friend’s 12-year-old daughter.

At least Anton’s co-residents were honest about their motives.
He was pressured to appear nude when at home because all three of his co-residents thought he was cute that way.
They often patted him on the rump, which he found degrading.

----as a matter of gender but not age

In the family in which Ken (2020, Voy 223876) grew up, not only the boys but the adult males were nude. The family placed responsibility on the part of the visitors by posting a sign at the front entrance stating that “any males present would be naked and in full view of anyone who entered.”

Ken’s mother had a book club in which some of the women brought their daughters. Ken commented, “I guess they wanted them to enjoy the view and I did not mind giving them that view.”

I wonder what rationale was given by Sean’s hostess.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: keeping boys naked at home


Author:
Cute Little Irish Boy
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Date Posted: 16:06:23 03/28/26 Sat
Author Host/IP: 108.181.31.219

>So nudity in the home was not only permitted, but
>mandated!
>I have found a few cases similar to this.
>What are some possible reasons for such a policy?
>There are at least 5 reasons:
>
>----for disciplinary purposes
>
>Tina (2019, Voy 223876) had two brothers whom their
>mother undressed “to keep them under control.”
>Although the boys eventually became more accustomed to
>Tina and her friends seeing them nude, they never
>stopped having erections.
>
>----for educational purposes
>
>In 2013, when Raymond (2019, Voy 223876) was 13 years
>old, his 10-year-old sister Joanie was caught viewing
>pornography.
>Their mother determined that the sister’s curiosity
>should be satisfied.
>
>Their mother undressed Raymond in Joanie’s presence,
>which gave Raymond an erection.
>That brought up another topic.
>
>Mother gave Joanie instructions about handling
>Raymond’s genitals.
>This resulted in an ejaculation, which brought up
>still another topic.
>From then on, Raymond was kept nude at home for Joanie
>to see, to observe, and ask further questions.
>
>----to alleviate the laundry work
>
>During the coronavirus quarantine, the parents of
>13-year-old James (2020, Voy 223876) forced him to
>stay naked.
>Their stated reason was a wish to cut expenses from
>using of the washing machine.
>
>But there seemed to be another reason.
>James was unwilling to comply, partly because he was
>physically immature.
>James’ parents were insensitive to his feelings of
>immaturity.
>His mother insisted that he was “still her baby.”
>Both parents teased him by pinching and slapping his
>rump. When he erected, both parents poked and tickled
>his penis.
>
>----for everyone else's enjoyment
>
>In 2019, Anton wrote a couple of messages to the Voy
>223876 forum, stating that he was an 11-year-old boy
>living in an apartment with his older sister, his
>older sister’s friend, and his older sister’s
>friend’s 12-year-old daughter.
>
>At least Anton’s co-residents were honest about
>their motives.
>He was pressured to appear nude when at home because
>all three of his co-residents thought he was cute that
>way.
>They often patted him on the rump, which he found
>degrading.
>
>----as a matter of gender but not age
>
>In the family in which Ken (2020, Voy 223876) grew up,
>not only the boys but the adult males were nude. The
>family placed responsibility on the part of the
>visitors by posting a sign at the front entrance
>stating that “any males present would be naked and
>in full view of anyone who entered.”
>
>Ken’s mother had a book club in which some of the
>women brought their daughters. Ken commented, “I
>guess they wanted them to enjoy the view and I did not
>mind giving them that view.”
>
>I wonder what rationale was given by Sean’s hostess.


This reminds me a lot of what happened to me as a kid I would always have my privates tickled 🤗 and kissed 💋 by old relatives. Also being naked at a nudist beach 🏖️ ⛱️ or a Forest campground 🏕️ my mom would always put lots of sunscreen over my naked pale body making sure to rub it in all over my skin living the best part for last 🍆 and she would do the same thing again with liquid aloe before bed.

p.s. I went in more detail in another post feel fee to take it for your archive Spelvin

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: keeping boys naked at home


Author:
curiouys to Cute Little Irish Boy
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Date Posted: 09:49:32 03/30/26 Mon
Author Host/IP: 24.57.206.80

>>So nudity in the home was not only permitted, but
>>mandated!
>>I have found a few cases similar to this.
>>What are some possible reasons for such a policy?
>>There are at least 5 reasons:
>>
>>----for disciplinary purposes
>>
>>Tina (2019, Voy 223876) had two brothers whom their
>>mother undressed “to keep them under control.”
>>Although the boys eventually became more accustomed to
>>Tina and her friends seeing them nude, they never
>>stopped having erections.
>>
>>----for educational purposes
>>
>>In 2013, when Raymond (2019, Voy 223876) was 13 years
>>old, his 10-year-old sister Joanie was caught viewing
>>pornography.
>>Their mother determined that the sister’s curiosity
>>should be satisfied.
>>
>>Their mother undressed Raymond in Joanie’s presence,
>>which gave Raymond an erection.
>>That brought up another topic.
>>
>>Mother gave Joanie instructions about handling
>>Raymond’s genitals.
>>This resulted in an ejaculation, which brought up
>>still another topic.
>>From then on, Raymond was kept nude at home for Joanie
>>to see, to observe, and ask further questions.
>>
>>----to alleviate the laundry work
>>
>>During the coronavirus quarantine, the parents of
>>13-year-old James (2020, Voy 223876) forced him to
>>stay naked.
>>Their stated reason was a wish to cut expenses from
>>using of the washing machine.
>>
>>But there seemed to be another reason.
>>James was unwilling to comply, partly because he was
>>physically immature.
>>James’ parents were insensitive to his feelings of
>>immaturity.
>>His mother insisted that he was “still her baby.”
>>Both parents teased him by pinching and slapping his
>>rump. When he erected, both parents poked and tickled
>>his penis.
>>
>>----for everyone else's enjoyment
>>
>>In 2019, Anton wrote a couple of messages to the Voy
>>223876 forum, stating that he was an 11-year-old boy
>>living in an apartment with his older sister, his
>>older sister’s friend, and his older sister’s
>>friend’s 12-year-old daughter.
>>
>>At least Anton’s co-residents were honest about
>>their motives.
>>He was pressured to appear nude when at home because
>>all three of his co-residents thought he was cute that
>>way.
>>They often patted him on the rump, which he found
>>degrading.
>>
>>----as a matter of gender but not age
>>
>>In the family in which Ken (2020, Voy 223876) grew up,
>>not only the boys but the adult males were nude. The
>>family placed responsibility on the part of the
>>visitors by posting a sign at the front entrance
>>stating that “any males present would be naked and
>>in full view of anyone who entered.”
>>
>>Ken’s mother had a book club in which some of the
>>women brought their daughters. Ken commented, “I
>>guess they wanted them to enjoy the view and I did not
>>mind giving them that view.”
>>
>>I wonder what rationale was given by Sean’s hostess.
>
>
>This reminds me a lot of what happened to me as a kid
>I would always have my privates tickled 🤗 and
>kissed 💋 by old relatives. Also being naked at a
>nudist beach 🏖️ ⛱️ or a Forest campground
>🏕️ my mom would always put lots of sunscreen over
>my naked pale body making sure to rub it in all over
>my skin living the best part for last 🍆 and she
>would do the same thing again with liquid aloe before
>bed.
>
>p.s. I went in more detail in another post feel fee to
>take it for your archive Spelvin

sounds like it was fun for you back then, what with all of the tickling and such.

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Author:
Gnome
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Date Posted: 04:29:39 10/31/25 Fri
Author Host/IP: 76.195.201.31

The double standard at gym and especially pool was interesting at time. I just viewed a lack of provacy did not matter in a poll or locker room.

When still 17 I joined boys team as stil eligible by age.Practice was always nude but some people used far lanes during our practice time. Sometimes it was seniors, othertimes it was sisters and brothers waiting on us to finish. A few boys even walked to car naked after practice, and some younger ones played in field naked too when warm enough. I started to do same in summer but stopped to avoid trouble but no one ever said anything.

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Author:
stevem552001
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Date Posted: 19:12:37 11/01/25 Sat
Author Host/IP: 162.199.85.158

Just out or curiosity, Nathalie, does your son still see the girl cousins and friends who used to see him at the beach, or the girl who stood at the bathroom door and watched you bathe your son with her mother, and if so, does the subject of his nudity in his younger years ever become a subject of discussion?

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Author:
Nathalie
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Date Posted: 05:08:08 11/02/25 Sun
Author Host/IP: 203.190.14.168

Yes, he still sees the girls who used to see him naked at the beach, or naked in the bath. Most of these girls are his cousins, or daughters of my friends. I am still close with my sisters and friends, and so when we visit them, or they visit us, our kids see each other. And our kids also have a good relationship with each other.

As for whether or not the stories of my son's nudity gets brought up in discussions, well normally no, it does not get brought up. Because back then it was just normal for us. And all the boys in my family got openly changed and bathed up to a certain age, not just my son. So I guess we just don't see it worth discussing, because it was just a casual thing and nothing else. Unless of course we actually have a reason to talk about it. For example, after I discovered this forum, I wanted to actually talk about the topic of boys nudity with my friends and family. So afterwards when I visited one of my sister's house, I brought this topic up and then we discussed about it. But in typical casual discussons, this is not a topic that gets brought up.

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Author:
Aaron
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Date Posted: 04:09:12 11/04/25 Tue
Author Host/IP: 76.195.201.31

In past the away team used to use the opposite sex change room before sports games. When in highschool I did this almost weekly. Girls would still come in to use stalls to pee all the time. We would intentionally strip and walk around naked and shower longer than needed to entertain these brave girls. A few girls did change while in there too but much more discrete than us.

I was shocked and first and then amused. I never thoguht much of it at time but would be huge deal in some parts of US. We chatted with them and got hard sometimes. Doubt they came to see the game really.

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