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] Date Posted:17:49:31 12/20/25 Sat Author Host/IP: 72.78.201.247 In reply to:
Ellen
's message, "Re: Why should boys be stripped?" on 14:39:13 12/20/25 Sat
Thank you, Ellen.
Your message was very valuable to me.
I have been somewhat unsure of advocating a CFNM environment
because I was afraid that it would cause the boys to go off in one corner
while the girls go off in another corner.
That is what we have seen in photographs of the beach in Victorian times.
Maybe I’m not too radical in proposing CFNM education.
I have wanted to advocate placing each pair of boys and each pair of girls in a desk in the classroom.
That way, the boys and girls could get to learn something about girls and boys, respectively,
but without putting any of the children in an awkward position.
Boys and girls could also be paired for swimming, with one partner practicing floating or stroking
while the other partner offers support.
Male alumni of Red Cross swimming class say that it was embarrassing for a boy to practice floating
while everyone is looking at his penis sticking up out of the water.
They also say that it is was embarrassing to practice kicking and stroking with the teacher holding on to his package.
In a partner system, it might be less traumatic.
They could also be paired for partner dancing, judo, karate, and other activities.
With the boys nude, of course.
A couple of items aroused my curiosity, however.
“It keeps boys more well behaved.”
Why is that?
I would like to think it is NOT because the boys are embarrassed and are afraid to call attention to themselves.
I have a few other explanations, but first, I would like to hear your explanation.
“It evens the playing field.”
What do you mean by that?
Do you think boys are favored through the textile status quo?
Possibly because of their academic ability?
Or do you think girls are favored?
Possibly because of being the teachers’ pets?
And which gender do you think gains through CFNM?
The girls getting to look? Or the boys getting to show?
“I know I was more motivated to play with boys when they were naked and so were lots
of other girls my age.”
Why was that?
I have two hypotheses:
One is that they looked more attractive that way.
The other is that there were no clothes to create a barrier between you and the boys.
Am I right on either of these guesses?
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Date Posted:12:58:41 12/21/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 76.113.145.227
boys that aren’t used to being naked (like friends my brothers brought over) would definitely be better behaved because they don’t want to draw attention to themselves, but for the boys that are used to it it keeps them well behaved because their nudity is a reminder of their immaturity compared to girls which would make them try and behave better, clothes can also make boys feel trapped and so they act out in response to feeling like they have a lack of freedom, this is what my brothers have told me about their nudity.
I think cfnm also evens the playing field because of the maturity I mentioned above. Clothes represent maturity while nudity represents freedom. Boys are less mature and more free growing up than girls are, and letting boys be clothed can make them disrespectful towards girls because they don’t see their higher maturity compared to them. Keeping them naked reminds them that they’re less mature and they end up a lot nicer to the girls around them. From my perspective I think girls gain more from cfnm but I might be biased, I just get the advantage of seeing naked boys but I don’t experience the gain in freedom boys have from being naked and showing themselves around, so maybe from a boy’s perspective it’s better for them
Your two hypotheses are definitely correct I would love to play with so many different boys so I could see every bit of them, their bare chests, backs, legs, butts, and of course penises and balls. Especially seeing them casually moving around while playing, without a care in the world, I also loved playing with my brothers because I would become incredibly familiar with every part of them, more than any other boy. But also boy’s lack of clothes made them more pleasant to be around, they felt more approachable and definitely respected girls more, so I think you’re right in both ways there
Date Posted:18:14:12 12/21/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 115.189.97.159
Hi Ellen I agree.I was very respectful towards girls.Being nude highlighted this and made me very aware of my behavior towards girls.As far as maturely goes yes even the younger girls seemed much more mature then us boys.I think perhaps because I couldn't help but feel like a little boy while nude.
Date Posted:19:41:35 12/21/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 72.78.201.247
Hello, Willy!
Of all the contributors whom I remember from 206801 and 223876, you are the one whom I least expected to say that you felt immature when you were nude.
I got the impression that your feelings were pure and unamalgamated pride.
Excuse me while I express a couple of more theories:
I betcha the way boys behave when they’re nude in the presence of girls is the way all boys behaved in the presence of girls before our species introduced the despicable custom known as clothes.
When anything artificial is introduced into our lives,
there is no telling what instincts are getting distorted or suppressed.
I also imagine that the boy’s genital display emphasizes his status as a male,
and thus emphasizes his role in relation to girls.
I have read a book which claimed that when puberty sets in,
a boy becomes attracted to whichever gender is opposite the gender with which he identifies.
That is why we often see a boy who plays with girls, dolls, and dollhouses all through childhood and turns gay the minute puberty sets in.
Yet many of us (notably myself) grow up with a handicap because we didn’t have enough experiences with girls early enough.
If I were raising a boy, I would make sure he got plenty of heterosexual experiences.
Any time he expressed a crush on a girl classmate,
I would arrange a playdate with that girl classmate,
along with one or two more boys and one or two more girls so no one would feel awkward---
but under only one condition: the boy will be nude the whole time.
Hello, Ellen!
You are very much like a girl in a novel which I recently wrote.
The novel takes place in Mrs. Stewart’s English class.
The first lesson is on parts of speech.
One of the girls volunteers one of the boys to pose nude the first three days,
thereby demonstrating that the word “nude” could be used as a noun, an adjective, and an adverb.
The class arranges its curriculum around the holidays.
On Halloween, the children go trick-or-treating.
To demonstrate homonyms, the girls wear bear costumes while the boys go bare.
When the class returns from winter break,
the class demonstrates verbs of possession by asking each boy to show a gift which he had received.
For the pleasure of the teacher and the girls, the boys are asked to pose nude.
The girl you remind me of is named Isis.
When Isis’ birthday arrives, the lesson for the day is on prepositions.
Since “for” is a preposition, the class asks Isis what they could do for her.
She responds:
“I like to watch boys because each boy has his own individual style. Every boy walks differently, runs differently, and does everything else differently. And they all move more gracefully when they are nude. So I think watching naked boys is a fine art which should more widely appreciated.
“But I don’t get enough opportunities to see boys pee. But when I do, I enjoy it to its fullest because each boy pee’s just a little bit differently.”
In response to Isis’ request, the boys take their clothes off,
the class walks to the city park across the street,
and the teacher takes a picture of each boy pee’ing.
If you give me your e-mail address, I’ll send the novel to you.
Date Posted:22:02:15 12/21/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 122.63.128.200
Hello Spelvin been I long time. I think you misunderstand me it wasn't that I felt immature only when I was nude in front of younger girls.I couldn't help be feel they in their swimsuits and with their modesty fully protected seemed more mature than I.
Date Posted:15:29:01 12/22/25 Mon Author Host/IP: 72.78.201.247
I hope someone out there is ready for a psychology lesson.
The Transactional Analysts divide the human personality into a mature Parent, a rational Adult, and a helpless and attention-seeking Child.
The Parent is divided into the self-descriptive Critical Parent and Nurturant Parent.
It seems that someone had a CFNM experience with the girls playing a Nurturant Parent role.
In 2010, Tonyforte wrote to the Delphi Forums, describing an Australian children’s home in which he grew up.
The 11-year-old girls were responsible for bathing the the 5-year-old children of both genders, the 12-year-old girls for the 6-year-olds, and so on up until the 17-year-old girls bathing the 11-year-olds.
12-year-olds were trusted to take care of themselves.
Bath time was accompanied with motherly compliments such as "What a fine-looking young man you are!”
"Let's get you nice and clean so you can be super proud of yourself."
Our young protagonist not only became accustomed to the lifestyle of the children’s home, but had some adjusting to do when a loving family took him in.
One time, the womenfolk in! his new family brought clean laundry into his bedroom when he was naked.
They profusely apologized, but he could not understand why they were apologizing.
I hope that when a clothed girl meets a nude boy, treats him like the 11-year-old girls treated the 5-year-old boys.
I hope they don’t take the Critical Parent route with reprimands like “stand up straight!” “pick your feet up when you walk!”
So now I’m curious:
Ellen, when you played with your unclad brothers and cousins, did you treat them with this sort of soft nurturance?
Willy, when your lovely playmates saw you in all your glory, did they groom you carefully and comment on what a fine-looking young man you were?
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