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I am sorry that the two parties have disagreed.
Nevertheless, I am afraid that I cannot accept any of your suggested solutions.
I cannot take any medication because none has been prescribed to me,
I cannot go to jail because I haven’t been arrested,
and I can’t commit suicide because I carry a self-preservation instinct.
I will, however, agree to a sane and rational debate over the facts.
I will start with an investigation (Story 1979) which measured the body self-concepts of nudist and textile preschool boys and girls.
The body self-concepts of the boys whose families attended nudist camps was higher than that of boys who whose families practiced nudism at home only, which in turn was higher than that of boys whose families did not practice nudism at all.
For the sake of academic honesty, I must say that no significant difference was found among the girls.
Then there was another study (Lewis & Janda 1988) which asked a sample of university undergraduate students to recall whether or not they grew up with nudity in the home and if so, how they felt about it.
The study found family nudity to be beneficial for later emotional and sexual adjustment.
Diligent scholars that you are, you might be able to find errors in these studies,
or even quote later studies which refute these findings.
If you do, I shall be happy to debate the question with you.
And now, if you will excuse me, I would like to set this thread aside and order some parrots.
Lewis, R. J. & Janda, L. H. 1988. The relationship between adult sexual adjustment and childhood experiences regarding exposure to nudity, sleeping in the parental bed, and parental attitudes toward sexuality. Archives of Sexual Behavior 17: 349-362.
Date Posted:11:02:58 12/26/25 Fri Author Host/IP: 76.195.201.31
>Hello, fine people!
>
>I am sorry that the two parties have disagreed.
>Nevertheless, I am afraid that I cannot accept any of
>your suggested solutions.
>
>I cannot take any medication because none has been
>prescribed to me,
>I cannot go to jail because I haven’t been arrested,
>and I can’t commit suicide because I carry a
>self-preservation instinct.
>I will, however, agree to a sane and rational debate
>over the facts.
>
>I will start with an investigation (Story 1979) which
>measured the body self-concepts of nudist and textile
>preschool boys and girls.
>The body self-concepts of the boys whose families
>attended nudist camps was higher than that of boys who
>whose families practiced nudism at home only, which in
>turn was higher than that of boys whose families did
>not practice nudism at all.
>For the sake of academic honesty, I must say that no
>significant difference was found among the girls.
>
>Then there was another study (Lewis & Janda 1988)
>which asked a sample of university undergraduate
>students to recall whether or not they grew up with
>nudity in the home and if so, how they felt about it.
>The study found family nudity to be beneficial for
>later emotional and sexual adjustment.
>
>Diligent scholars that you are, you might be able to
>find errors in these studies,
>or even quote later studies which refute these
>findings.
>If you do, I shall be happy to debate the question
>with you.
>
>And now, if you will excuse me, I would like to set
>this thread aside and order some parrots.
>
>Lewis, R. J. & Janda, L. H. 1988. The relationship
>between adult sexual adjustment and childhood
>experiences regarding exposure to nudity, sleeping in
>the parental bed, and parental attitudes toward
>sexuality. Archives of Sexual Behavior 17: 349-362.
>
>Story, M. D. 1979. Factors associated with more
>positive body self-concepts in preschool children.
>Journal of Social Psychology 108, 1: 49-56.
Date Posted:17:05:07 12/26/25 Fri Author Host/IP: 72.78.201.247
Every effect has a cause.
I know that you guys didn’t just get up one morning and say,
“I don’t have anything better to do. I think I’ll get on-line and pester the folks at two five 0 nine eight eight.”
Let me see if I can guess your reason for trolling us:
Guess No. 1:
We tend to conflate anything which is unfamiliar to us.
Don’t get me wrong, I know we all do it.
People who aren’t familiar with classical music tend to think all classical music sounds alike.
People who aren’t familiar with pop music tend to think all pop music sounds alike.
We feel differently about children from you,
and you probably think all people who feel differently about children are alike.
Guess No. 2:
This guess is akin to Guess No. 1.
Someone in your past did not respect your feelings and your privacy as they should.
They traumatized you by taking advantage of their size.
You need to take it out on somebody, and we are the closest targets.
I can understand that, but it is not fair for you to take it out on us.
We weren’t there, we didn’t do it, and we don’t know anything about it.
If you still feel pains from the incident, perhaps we can talk about it.
Guess No. 3:
You sometimes feel inferior, so you need someone to feel superior to.
Most of us have those feelings, and I know I do.
Author:
Captain What The Hell Is Obvious
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Date Posted:14:58:30 12/27/25 Sat Author Host/IP: 108.239.71.193
>Every effect has a cause.
>I know that you guys didn’t just get up one morning
>and say,
>“I don’t have anything better to do. I think
>I’ll get on-line and pester the folks at two five 0
>nine eight eight.”
>
>Let me see if I can guess your reason for trolling us:
>
>Guess No. 1:
>
>We tend to conflate anything which is unfamiliar to us.
>Don’t get me wrong, I know we all do it.
>People who aren’t familiar with classical music tend
>to think all classical music sounds alike.
>People who aren’t familiar with pop music tend to
>think all pop music sounds alike.
>
>We feel differently about children from you,
>and you probably think all people who feel differently
>about children are alike.
>
>Guess No. 2:
>
>This guess is akin to Guess No. 1.
>Someone in your past did not respect your feelings and
>your privacy as they should.
>They traumatized you by taking advantage of their size.
>You need to take it out on somebody, and we are the
>closest targets.
>
>I can understand that, but it is not fair for you to
>take it out on us.
>We weren’t there, we didn’t do it, and we don’t
>know anything about it.
>If you still feel pains from the incident, perhaps we
>can talk about it.
>
>Guess No. 3:
>
>You sometimes feel inferior, so you need someone to
>feel superior to.
>Most of us have those feelings, and I know I do.
>
>How did I do?
Guess No. 3:
You are creepy, pedophlic, pedarasatic, voyeuristic and just plain batshit nuts. You seriously need therapy and possible jail time and I for one cannot even begin to think about what may have happened to you in childhood that caused you to be as you are but damn was it bad.
Date Posted:06:13:41 12/28/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 72.78.201.247
At 14:25:48, a traffic accident occurred in San Luis Obispo, CA.
At 14:25:48, a traffic accident occurred in Martinsville, IN.
Two people arrived at the Pearly Gates.
"Good afternoon," said Saint Peter. "Could you please introduce yourselves?"
"I'm Captain Obvious," said the first candidate.
"I'm Spelvin," said the second candidate.
The two pointed their fingers at each other. "You here?"
Captain Obvious said, "I'm not going to share this place with this guy. He's creepy, pedophilic, pedarastic, voyeuristic and just plain batshit nuts!"
Spelvin said, "I'm not going to share this place with him, either. This whole world is in this mess because of people who hate anyone who's different from themselves! Like the Nazis who killed six million Jews! Like the town of Salem which killed suspected witches! Like the ICE agents who cart off innocent brown-skinned . . ."
Saint Peter said, "Okay, okay, OKAY! I get your point. But I have news for both of you gentlemen. We only accept people who settle their disagreements amicably. And there is only one alternative."
Whereupon Captain Obvious and Spelvin were cast into the Lake of Fire.
Date Posted:09:03:55 12/28/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 108.239.71.193
>At 14:25:48, a traffic accident occurred in San Luis
>Obispo, CA.
>At 14:25:48, a traffic accident occurred in
>Martinsville, IN.
>
>Two people arrived at the Pearly Gates.
>"Good afternoon," said Saint Peter. "Could you please
>introduce yourselves?"
>
>"I'm Captain Obvious," said the first candidate.
>
>"I'm Spelvin," said the second candidate.
>
>The two pointed their fingers at each other. "You
>here?"
>
>Captain Obvious said, "I'm not going to share this
>place with this guy. He's creepy, pedophilic,
>pedarastic, voyeuristic and just plain batshit nuts!"
>
>Spelvin said, "I'm not going to share this place with
>him, either. This whole world is in this mess because
>of people who hate anyone who's different from
>themselves! Like the Nazis who killed six million
>Jews! Like the town of Salem which killed suspected
>witches! Like the ICE agents who cart off innocent
>brown-skinned . . ."
>
>Saint Peter said, "Okay, okay, OKAY! I get your point.
>But I have news for both of you gentlemen. We only
>accept people who settle their disagreements amicably.
>And there is only one alternative."
>
>Whereupon Captain Obvious and Spelvin were cast into
>the Lake of Fire.
It's not about disagreement, dude.
It's about the fact that you're a creepy little pedophile.
Date Posted:17:57:17 12/29/25 Mon Author Host/IP: 72.78.201.247
I needed a little variety,
so now I’ll advocate for the party against childhood nudity.
----If a nude child is infantilized, he or she could feel degraded.
During the coronavirus quarantine, the parents of 13-year-old James (2020, Voy 223876) forced him to stay naked.
Their stated reason was a wish to cut expenses from using of the washing machine.
James was unwilling to comply, partly because he was physically immature.
James’ parents were insensitive to his feelings of immaturity.
His mother insisted that he was “still her baby.”
Both parents teased him by pinching and slapping his rump.
When he erected, both parents poked and tickled his penis.
----An adult who did not grow up with nudity could be excessively zealous in imposing nudity on children.
I suspect that such was the case of Collette Marie, whose father showed slides to the visitors a few years after the family attended a nudist resort.
“Suddenly, a nude little girl appeared on the screen. I couldn’t even hear my father’s narration, I was so shocked. There I was with the beach ball on my head, ‘smiling,’ I had never seen the image before and didn’t want to see it now. Nor did I want anyone else to see it. My father had kept those slides instead of dumping them or turning them in as evidence! I was very angry. I remember looking at my father’s face, wondering if he knew that torment he was causing me. His face was calm, at ease; he never even looked my way.”
----A busy agendum could terrify a child who is not already accustomed to nudity.
When Reinhard was 8 or 9 years old, he was enrolled in a YMCA swim class.
He undressed in front of his classmates’ mothers in the locker room, swam nude in class front of a female teacher and in front of a gallery of viewers, and returned to the locker room to dress in front of the same classmates’ mothers.
For him, that was bad enough, but this is what topped it all:
“As I was in the locker room, still naked and facing my locker,
I felt a hand on my shoulder and someone said, ‘Is that you, Reinhard -------?’
I turned around to discover that the hand belonged to my piano teacher,
Mrs. Grabansky.
“I was mortified.
“She said something to me about how nice it was to know that I was in the same class as her son, patted me on bare ass and moved on.”
----If the experience is unpleasant, it could leave lasting scars.
Bacon Fanatic (2017, Voy 223876) participated in nude swim classes at a YMCA in British Columbia, much to the entertainment of girls watching from the bleachers.
“To be totally honest about it I eventually wound up needing psychological help from all the embarrassment. I had performance issues later in life and was very self- conscious any time I was nude in front of any female, even my wife.”
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