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Subject: Re: Hiking naked with mom.

Author:
Matteo

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Date Posted: 14:57:25 08/19/25 Tue
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In reply to: Lucia 's message, "Re: Hiking naked with mom." on 14:52:46 08/19/25 Tue

Carlotta is understandable: it was a complete novelty for her! Did Francesco and Tommaso tell you if they allowed Carlotta to touch them?

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Author:
Lucia
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Date Posted: 15:10:45 08/19/25 Tue
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>Carlotta is understandable: it was a complete novelty
>for her! Did Francesco and Tommaso tell you if they
>allowed Carlotta to touch them?

Of course! Carlotta's behavior is completely understandable (like Martina and Margherita's), and at her age, I would have done the same. Francesco and Tommaso had told me about Carlotta's request, but they hadn't said whether they'd allowed her to do it or not. Maybe they were embarrassed, or maybe they were afraid I'd get angry with her, or with them, or with all three of them... how silly...
So I asked them the same question you asked. Tommaso told me they were embarrassed at first and said no. But she's very intelligent, kind, and sweet, and little by little she convinced them. She said I'd said in the bathroom that she was family, that it was okay if she saw them bathing naked, so she could touch them (I hadn't actually said that... lol). Tommaso was the first one to give in and let her touch his penis and balls. Carlotta was excited and kept talking about how beautiful and soft it was, and how she liked it. After a while, Tommaso had a beginning erection that embarrassed him, and he pushed Carlotta's hand away. But she insisted, saying it was normal, that she'd seen it in the bath while I was washing him, and she reached out again. When Martina or Margherita touched each other, did you also get an erection? Did it embarrass you as much as Tommaso? After much persuasion, Francesco finally gave in to his cousin's coaxing and allowed her to touch him, just as she had with Tommaso.
I'm not mad at them at all; these are youthful experiences between cousins, and I'm okay with that.

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Matteo
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Date Posted: 01:47:41 08/20/25 Wed
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While playing with Margherita on the mat, I got an erection, but she didn't notice, because I immediately dropped into the water. Then, with an excuse, I never came back up. Instead, Martina touched me at various times, sometimes right in front of our mothers. I remember one time, after one of those famous baths, I was lying naked on the changing table, and Martina asked, "Can I try putting talcum powder on Matteo?"

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Date Posted: 10:46:12 08/20/25 Wed
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Author: Matteo [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12:05:26 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 Yes, my mother allowed her to put talcum powder on me. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author:
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Date Posted: 13:12:34 08/20/25 Wed
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>While playing with Margherita on the mat, I got an
>erection, but she didn't notice, because I immediately
>dropped into the water. Then, with an excuse, I never
>came back up. Instead, Martina touched me at various
>times, sometimes right in front of our mothers. I
>remember one time, after one of those famous baths, I
>was lying naked on the changing table, and Martina
>asked, "Can I try putting talcum powder on Matteo?"

Here I am!
I imagine that since we were both in high school (with Margherita), it was very embarrassing, even though it wasn't the first time in front of a girl. But she was your classmate... You were smart to jump in right away...
It's normal for Martina to have touched you several times: between the baths at your house and the beach, you've seen each other a lot, so she had many more opportunities than Margherita. Did your mothers say nothing to her when she touched you in front of them? Did your mother let her put talcum powder on you? How did you feel about this request? And if she did, how did you feel while she was applying talcum powder? On this occasion (or on other occasions when Martina touched you), did you ever get an erection in front of her? How did she react, and what did she say?

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Author:
Lucia
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Date Posted: 13:19:49 08/20/25 Wed
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>>While playing with Margherita on the mat, I got an
>>erection, but she didn't notice, because I immediately
>>dropped into the water. Then, with an excuse, I never
>>came back up. Instead, Martina touched me at various
>>times, sometimes right in front of our mothers. I
>>remember one time, after one of those famous baths, I
>>was lying naked on the changing table, and Martina
>>asked, "Can I try putting talcum powder on Matteo?"

Francesco confessed to me that when his cousin Carlotta touched his penis and his little balls, after a while he got an erection, just like his brother had before. He was quite embarrassed and asked his cousin to stop. But she replied that it was really cute and fun to see how his male part changed and got hard. And they continued for a while before they all started playing together again. He was very embarrassed; he said he felt very ashamed, even though he felt a mixture of intense embarrassment and pleasure.

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Matteo
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Date Posted: 13:36:38 08/20/25 Wed
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The first time Martina touched me, in a way, she had Mom's permission. It was a normal beach, lunch at the beach bar, our parents wanted to continue chatting while sitting down, while Martina and I wanted to go back to the beach. They gave us permission, and Mom asked Martina to put sunscreen on me. Of course, Martina happily agreed. Mom meant just my back, but... We went back to the umbrella, and she made me lie down on the beach towel, face down. She creamed my entire backside, focusing on my bottom. The beach was crowded, and a lot of people were staring at me. Then she wanted to do it on the front, too, but I stopped her. The time on the changing table, she was supposed to just spray some talcum powder, but she also spread it with her hand, touching my balls and dick. The two moms stopped her, smiling: "Okay, Martina, you're a little young to be touching dicks."

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Author:
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Date Posted: 13:51:57 08/20/25 Wed
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>The first time Martina touched me, in a way, she had
>Mom's permission. It was a normal beach, lunch at the
>beach bar, our parents wanted to continue chatting
>while sitting down, while Martina and I wanted to go
>back to the beach. They gave us permission, and Mom
>asked Martina to put sunscreen on me. Of course,
>Martina happily agreed. Mom meant just my back, but...
>We went back to the umbrella, and she made me lie down
>on the beach towel, face down. She creamed my entire
>backside, focusing on my bottom. The beach was
>crowded, and a lot of people were staring at me. Then
>she wanted to do it on the front, too, but I stopped
>her. The time on the changing table, she was supposed
>to just spray some talcum powder, but she also spread
>it with her hand, touching my balls and dick. The two
>moms stopped her, smiling: "Okay, Martina, you're a
>little young to be touching dicks."

I confess that in those situations I would have done the same as Martina... sorry, but it's the truth... In both cases, she had your mother's permission, and I too would have taken advantage of it to take "a few more liberties"... lol...
I can imagine that on the beach, in front of so many people staring at you, it was already embarrassing enough for her to rub sunscreen on your butt, penis, and balls; maybe it would have been too much. I understand why you stopped her. On the changing table: I was trying to imagine the scene. The two mothers watching her, who should be learning to spray talcum powder on you, but instead she's applying it with her hands... too funny, but I totally understand your embarrassment...

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Author: Matteo [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 14:01:41 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 I understand Martina too. Today I too wanted to touch the girl I met! I take it out on my mom, who thinks it's not embarrassing for me to be naked on the changing table in front of a classmate. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author:
Lucia
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Date Posted: 14:14:54 08/20/25 Wed
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>I understand Martina too. Today I too wanted to touch
>the girl I met! I take it out on my mom, who thinks
>it's not embarrassing for me to be naked on the
>changing table in front of a classmate.

I'm not defending Martina because she should have asked your permission before touching you. I'm just saying that I understand her desire to touch a boy, given the opportunity. And the fact that you also want to touch girls confirms that it's a normal and mutual desire. The important thing is to ask permission before doing so, and both of you must agree. I wasn't angry with Carlotta. She asked, and both my sons gave her permission, so it's okay with me too. As I've told you a thousand times, you kids shouldn't be embarrassed to be naked at home and on the beach. It should be the norm. They should ban swimsuits for prepubescent children by law (and even a little later for boys...). However, changing a diaper is a very intimate moment, different from being naked on the beach. You feel vulnerable and embarrassed because you're treated like babies. So I understand what you're saying, and in fact, if I were your mother, I would have allowed Martina to see you naked on the beach, to apply sunscreen, to watch you bathe like I did with Carlotta, but not to change your diaper. I would have closed the door and done it in private.

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Author: Matteo [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 14:20:47 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 Lucia, if I were to hypothetically find myself sleeping at your house and you had to put me in diapers, would you let Francesco and Tommaso stay in the room, since they're boys? My cousins are always watching me. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author:
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Date Posted: 14:30:40 08/20/25 Wed
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>Lucia, if I were to hypothetically find myself
>sleeping at your house and you had to put me in
>diapers, would you let Francesco and Tommaso stay in
>the room, since they're boys? My cousins are always
>watching me.

I'd be super happy if you stayed over to sleep at our house after playing all afternoon with Francesco and Matteo. That would be great! You'd be the one to decide: if you let me, I'd let him come in and watch, but if you were embarrassed and would prefer it to be just you and me, I'd respect your decision and they'd wait outside the door.

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Author:
Lucia
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Date Posted: 14:32:24 08/20/25 Wed
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>>Lucia, if I were to hypothetically find myself
>>sleeping at your house and you had to put me in
>>diapers, would you let Francesco and Tommaso stay in
>>the room, since they're boys? My cousins are always
>>watching me.
>
>I'd be super happy if you stayed over to sleep at our
>house after playing all afternoon with Francesco and
>Matteo. That would be great! You'd be the one to
>decide: if you let me, I'd let him come in and watch,
>but if you were embarrassed and would prefer it to be
>just you and me, I'd respect your decision and they'd
>wait outside the door.

Francesco and Tommaso, of course, sorry!

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Author: Matteo [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 14:39:46 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 5.90.206.128 My impression of Francesco and Tommaso is that of two well-behaved children. I'd still be embarrassed, but perhaps I'd let them watch. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author:
Lucia
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Date Posted: 14:44:36 08/20/25 Wed
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>My impression of Francesco and Tommaso is that of two
>well-behaved children. I'd still be embarrassed, but
>perhaps I'd let them watch.

Thanks for your comment about my children.
Sometimes they get angry and disobey, too—they are children, after all—but I'm happy and proud of them.
I think there shouldn't be any awkward moments between the three of you. You should all be naked at home, bathing together or in the same room, without shame. But as I wrote before, diaper changing is a very private moment, so only you can decide whether they should stay in the room and watch or wait outside with the door closed. This wouldn't change their opinion of you in any way, and you would remain great friends whatever your choice.

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Author: Matteo [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 14:59:44 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 Of course, I wouldn't want Carlotta as a spectator! Eheheheh [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author: Lucia [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:03:24 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 190.2.149.102 >Of course, I wouldn't want Carlotta as a spectator! >Eheheheh Hehehe... Diaper changes, definitely not! I'd tell her to wait outside. You can rest assured about that... As for watching your bath, could she? And play with the three of you naked? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author:
Matteo
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Date Posted: 15:12:34 08/20/25 Wed
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I'm not used to choosing these things: usually my parents decide for themselves whether I should be naked or not. Anyway... it would depend on Francesco... if he's much bigger than me in the private parts, I'd be afraid of Carlotta making comparisons. She might say to me: "Matteo, your penis is smaller than Francesco's."

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Author:
Lucia
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Date Posted: 15:25:49 08/20/25 Wed
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>I'm not used to choosing these things: usually my
>parents decide for themselves whether I should be
>naked or not. Anyway... it would depend on
>Francesco... if he's much bigger than me in the
>private parts, I'd be afraid of Carlotta making
>comparisons. She might say to me: "Matteo, your penis
>is smaller than Francesco's."

If I had to decide (but you're a guest and a friend, so I can't embarrass you), I'd always let you be naked, just like my children. When they're dressed, you're dressed, too; when they're naked, you're dressed, too. Fair. Play together, eat together, bathe together, sleep together. All this if Carlotta isn't there.
If she's there, however, I'd do the same, except for your diaper changes, where it'd be just the two of us, and they'd be outside. But your baths and your games would be with her present (and you present with hers). However, if this makes you very uncomfortable, we'll find a solution that works for you too, when she's there. Francesco's penis and balls are both larger than Tommaso's. However, he's only been developing for a couple of months, so they're not as big as those of a boy in the midst of puberty. They're still quite boyish, even if they've grown a bit. You don't have to worry about being embarrassed by a comparison. Carlotta might eventually notice the lack of your pubic hair, but she's intelligent and sweet and sensitive, so I don't think she'll make any awkward comments.

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Author: Matteo [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:34:25 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 Another embarrassing moment would be for me to wake up in the morning with a full diaper and let your kids smell it. And then have to tell you I used the diaper. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author:
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Date Posted: 15:38:29 08/20/25 Wed
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>Another embarrassing moment would be for me to wake up
>in the morning with a full diaper and let your kids
>smell it. And then have to tell you I used the diaper.

You absolutely don't have to be embarrassed about this. Francesco remembers very well when Tommaso was in diapers (until 2 years ago) and he knows what it smells like in the morning.
Stop worrying about this! It's absolutely not a problem. They know you're in diapers; the other night you told me I could talk to them about it. So, no problem, my dear.

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Author:
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Date Posted: 15:43:26 08/20/25 Wed
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>>Another embarrassing moment would be for me to wake up
>>in the morning with a full diaper and let your kids
>>smell it. And then have to tell you I used the diaper.
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>You absolutely don't have to be embarrassed about
>this. Francesco remembers very well when Tommaso was
>in diapers (until 2 years ago) and he knows what it
>smells like in the morning.
>Stop worrying about this! It's absolutely not a
>problem. They know you're in diapers; the other night
>you told me I could talk to them about it. So, no
>problem, my dear.

So is everything okay?
Will you come over to our house one day, even when Carlotta's here, and stay the night?

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Author: Matteo [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:54:35 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 Yes, I think I'd feel safe with you. Are you sure your husband would be happy with a house full of kids? Hehehe. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author:
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Date Posted: 15:58:13 08/20/25 Wed
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>Yes, I think I'd feel safe with you. Are you sure your
>husband would be happy with a house full of kids?
>Hehehe.

I'm very touched by what you wrote. That you feel safe with me. Thank you so much! I'm sending you a kiss and a hug.
I think my husband has no problems, otherwise we'll send him to a friend's house that day... hehehehe...

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Date Posted: 17:08:47 08/23/25 Sat
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Hello, Lucia!

I noticed your statement that "They should ban swimsuits for prepubescent children by law (and even a little later for boys...)"

I'm curious:
Do you want all children to go naked specifically at beaches and swimming pools?
Or do you want all children to go naked period?
If the latter is the case, you might be interested in a thread entitled "Found this place" at the following URL:

https://www.voy.com/143459

The parents in those stories not only keep their children nude at home, but make them play nude outside four seasons of the year, make them eat meals in restaurants nude, and make them walk across town nude for music lessons.

It seems that sexual abuse hysteria is hitting many other countries besides my own,
so I question that such stories are even possible.

I am currently writing a novel about a school system which requires all boys to attend school nude.
I doubt if anyone will ever take my suggestion seriously,
but it is pleasant to have such an event taking place in my imagination.

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