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spelvin (What causes CFNM?)
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Date Posted: 03:24:55 08/27/25 Wed
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I did a Google search on “modesty training children.”
One site was entitled “Modesty is for boys too.”
Another site said, “It's not all about the women only when it comes to modesty!”
Another site acknowledged modesty training for boys with this one sentence: “I should note here that we are also teaching our boys to be modest in how they dress and act as well.” And even that one sentence was in parentheses.
Apparently, then, the need for modesty in girls is a foregone conclusion but that the need for modesty in boys is not.
What causes this double standard? Why has there never been a CMNF?
I have a collection of theories:
---Sexually immoral behavior is more risky for women than for men.----
A boy who was subjected to nude punishment asked his mother why she never punished his sisters that way.
His mother replied that nude punishment of girls would result in their growing to become “loose women.”
I’ve never heard of a guy getting ending up in a home for unwed fathers, have you?
---Boys change in size. Girls change in size and shape.----
In 1974, newspaper advice columnist Ann Landers wrote, “The bodily changes in young girls are much more noticeable than in your boys. This would make a difference to the girl who is over (or under) developed.”
----Nudity is associated with athletic activity, which in turn is associated with the male gender.----
In a Quora forum, Rick Orlando wrote:
“Men and boys studied and trained nude in ‘gymnasiums’ (literally ‘naked places’). They competed in sports and competed in most of the original Olympics events, completely nude. They sometimes even fought nude. Hence it should be no surprise that in much of their art, men and boys were nude. Women less so because they weren’t allowed to study and train like the men did.”
-----Boys reached puberty later, and therefore were considered sexless longer.----
In 2019, these words appeared on one of the now-closed Voy forums:
“We had ‘nothing to hide.’ It was OK for our penises to be out, we all had the same, and with puberty seemingly happening a little later than it does these days (and later than the girls), we didn't have much to cover up.”
That message came from a contributor named Joe. Joe, was that you?
----Males were considered predators and girls were considered prey.----
Someone remarked that we don’t protect wolves from sheep but we protect sheep from wolves. Likewise, goes the analogy, we don’t protect boys from girls but we protect girls from boys.
Or at least, that is how it was before sexual abuse hysteria. Now boys are also considered prey. That is why boys now wear long shorts and long swimsuits, and that is why boys now have to wear shirts in hot weather.
----Girls and women play a nurturant role.----
When one party plays a nurturant role, that allows no consideration for the modesty of the party receiving the nurturance.
In the late lamented Voy forum, there were many messages to this effect. Dim recalled attending a summer camp in Soviet Russia. He and his male agemates protested having to undergo weekly showers supervised by older girl campers. The camp counsellors countered that they had “seen and bathed lots of naked boys and we have nothing to hide from them.”
Even boys’ overnight visitors were not safe. When Paul had friends over for a sleepover, his older girl cousin took their clothes off for bath time. Paul’s mother and aunt answered their protests by saying, “She’s a big girl and would be a mom herself very soon.”
----Boys misbehave more than girls.----
It seems to be commonly agreed that forcing nudity or seminudity on boys results in better behavior on the part of the boys. But how does this work? We can break this explanation into several sub-explanations:
One sub-explanation is that: The boys regarded their nudity as a sign of immaturity.
Joe is helping us again. In the now-closed Voy forums, he wrote that “our bare bottoms could always be swatted. We were still ‘little boys’ who needed to learn how to behave and needed more care.”
Another sub-explanation is that: Forced boy nudity was a sign of adult control.
This story comes from Yours Truly, a veteran of the British school system in the Seventies.
At that time, as some of you may recall, hemlines on boys’ shorts were at an all-time high.
At a parents’ meeting, YT’s schoolteacher asked the parents to send their boys to school in the new style shorts.
Meanwhile, the girls were “allowed to wear whatever they pleased.”
YT attended school “feeling half-stripped.” He felt “vulnerable and embarrassed and therefore easier to control.”
YT’s parents were not so sympathetic:
“My parents were quite happy that the nonsense had been knocked out of me and my mum happily bought me several new pairs of shorts while my treacherous father actually shook that teacher's hand at a subsequent parents' evening.”
The most popular sub-explanation seems to be that the feeling of shame inhibited the boys’ desire for attention.
In the now-defunct forum, Alex recalled his days of CFNM swimming instruction.
“When a few girls were around us I tried to turn the front part in an opposite direction. That attempt resulted in a failure when girls were positioned all around.”
----CFNM allows for mating rituals.----
sean partipated in swimming meets in which the public was invited and the boys swam nude. He wrote, “It was very common to have a mother and her daughter come up and invite you to go swimming in their private pool.”
Derrick remembers a few informal competitions from his skinny-dipping days. They were somewhat embarrassed when girls intruded, but they complied with contests which were held by the girls. The girls brought tape measures to determine who had the longest flaccide penis, who had the longest erect penis, and who could ejaculate the farthest.
----Public nudity is an exercise in bravery.----
Going out on the battlefield, hunting in the forest, and going out on the athletic field have traditionally been the work of men and boys. That is physically risky,
Launching a business venture has traditionally been men’s work. That is financially risky.
Walking up to a classmate and asking that classmate for a date is boy’s work. That is risking a rejection.
Proposing marriage is men’s work. That is also risking a rejection.
Walking out into the swimming pool area and showing oneself to a bleacherful of spectators is boy’s work. That is risking embarrassment.
In an article in the 2011 volume of Evolutionary Psychology, Sanseter & Kennair argue that evolution has bestowed children, especially boys, with daredevil instincts. They also argue that overprotection from parents and teachers is a disservice is a disservice to the children.
Although these two worthy scholars do not mention nudity, it logically follows that nudity belongs on the list right along with bruises from soccer practice and bicycle accidents.
Let us imagine a disapproving reader on this forum. Such a reader would recognize that Matteo felt embarrassed on the beach and that Paolo and Francesco felt a little discomfort during the holiday. Oh, how dreadful! We must slap swimsuits on those boys NOW! If we don’t, they will be traumatized for the rest of their lives!
I disagree. I say that Matteo and Paolo and Francesco need girls giggling over their cazzo’s just as badly as they need minor lacerations from riding the skateboard.
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