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Date Posted: 07:37
Author: Dwayanu
Subject: Re: Earth to Joe
In reply to: ketch-10Apr02 's message, "Re: Earth to Joe" on 12:23

There is a saying that runs through most spiritual traditions that what paineth us in others is usually within ourselves. You should really try to take some time to meditate and reach a place of deep peace from which you can examine yourself and what it is that makes you react the way you do to Norman Paulsen. You may find it is not what you think it is right now.
As far as your questions, you wrote, "So, this "personal experience" which convinces you that everything Paulsen said is true is that you have seen a few UFO's." No, Ketch, I was referring to personal experience with the Source of all true knowledge, not to seeing an alien conveyance or two.
You also wrote, "I invite you to show us any other sources supporting this notion of "The Builders" and "The Nephilim". There are plenty of references, I believe, in Norman's autobiography if you are interested in lookng up any of that.
And then, yes, you do say AGAIN, "Show us where Paulsen admits there was no physical "Christ Child" born on New Year's Eve 1960."
There is nothing to admit, Ketch. As I have already pointed out, prior to his experience at Emerson Dry Lake, he wondered if the "second coming of Christ" meant a hu-man birth, as you keep pointing out. During that experience and afterwards, you will probably find that all references to it involve the plural:e.g. the forces (plural) of Christ; We (plural) are all involved; The return of the Builders (plural); etc.
So, the problem with your perception seems to be that you are not noticing a difference between what he wondered about prior to Emerson Dry Lake versus what was revealed to him during and afterwards. There is nothing to "admit," you just seem to have a hard time letting yourself understand what is so obvious to most readers of the book.
You also wrote, "Apparently it is fine for you to make these criticisms of me but not the other way around." I am not trying to criticise you, Ketch. I am just trying to help you with something with which you are having a very hard time understanding. My reference to ragging on someone was intended to refer to your ragging on Paulsen, not me.
You also wrote," Are you trying to claim you are a perfected being, who voluntarily reincarnated to help the former alcoholic and mental patient Norman Paulsen with his divine mission?" Well, Ketch, maybe if you showed some real interest, I would try to explain a little of that, but at this point, you do not seem prepared to accept anything that does not fit into your existing world view. Do you (in addition to not believing that extra terrestrial are visiting this planet) also not believe that some spirits on this planet right now have actually chosen to incarnate here at this time?

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