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Date Posted: 15:38:10 08/06/02 Tue
Author: Julian
Subject: Re: Paul, Read, fast and pray!! He that hath wisdom, let him understand!
In reply to: David Wadsworth, Servant of the Most High and One True God 's message, "Paul, Read, fast and pray!! He that hath wisdom, let him understand!" on 08:21:54 10/18/01 Thu

David

I agree with you, we become two witnesses for the truth. You are right, and I hop that many people will believe it.

Jesus said that no prophet or new law shall come after John the Baptist. So what Paul is doing with the apostles? Jesus said in Luke 16: 16 that the laws and the prophets preached until John the Baptist.
We know that Paul was preaching about the New Testaments “the Gospel of Jesus Christ”. Paul’s teaching is about abolishing God’s law through Jesus Christ.

The scripture reads:
Jesus said: The law and the prophets were until John, since that time the kingdom of God preached and every man press into it, Luke 16: 16 to 17.

So, how Paul could preach a new covenant to abolish God’s law through Jesus’ death after John the Baptist in 15 years. Was Jesus joking when he said it in Luke 16: 16?

Some people interpret this scripture in the way that the law doesn’t exist any more. They believe that the people obeyed God’s law until John the Baptist. Since then no one is under God’s law.

But the real meaning of this scripture that is in Luke 16: 16 to 17, that no other prophets could add or abolish God’s laws, the law was given until John and no one could change it. It doesn’t mean that we are not under the law. Jesus said also: IT IS EASIER FOR HEAVEN AND EARTH TO PASS THAN ONE TITLE OF THE LAW TO FAIL, Luke 16: 17.
It means also that the Prophets shall not be in existence after John the Baptist. So in what category could we place Paul according to Jesus’ saying that the prophets and the law preached until John the Baptist only?
If Jesus meant that the law is abolished in this scripture it means that we have a problem between this scripture and the scripture in Matthew 5: 17, because Jesus said in this scripture that no one could remove one jot of the laws. The Scripture reads: Think not that I come to destroy the law or the prophets I didn’t come to destroy it but to fulfill. FOR VERLY I SAY INTO YOU TILL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS ONE JOT OR ONE TITLE SHALL IN NO WISE PASS FROM THE LAW, TILL ALL BE FULFILLED, Matthew 5: 17 to 18.

I don’t see that heaven and earth pass yet, it means that we still under the law.

If we presume that Jesus spoke to him, which I don’t believe that it happened, Paul lied in his second story. . Paul lied about his story when Jesus appeared to him, he told two different stories for the same event.
The conclusion of Paul’s stories with the lord Jesus

Paul’s first story in (Acts 9: 3 to 9) does not match with (Acts 26: 13 to 16).
As Paul said in his first story: the lord did tell him only about (persecuting the lord Jesus. Then he said to him, ARISE AND GO INTO THE CITY, AND IT SHALL BE TOLD YOU WHAT YOU MUST DO).

So the lord did not tell (Saul) Paul in this verse what he supposes to do as a minister, the Lord told him to go to the city for someone would tell him what he supposes to do.

But Paul in his second story he said that the lord told him to preach the gospel AND TO TURN THEM FROM DARKNESS TO LIGHT, AND FROM THE POWER OF SATAN UNTO GOD. THAT THEY (MAY RECEIVE FORGIVENESS OF SINS), AND INHERITANCE AMONG THEM (WHICH ARE SANCTIFIED BY FAITH) THAT IS IN ME. Acts 26: 13 to 18}.

Paul created this story to abolish God’s law, he said (by faith man is sanctified but not with his works). Also he claims that the faith (is in him). He said, WHICH IS SANCTIFIED BY FAITH THAT is in me.

PETER WARNED US TO BE CAREFUL WHEN READING PAUL’S LETTERS.

Some people interpret his letters as abolishing God’s law. Those letters are hard to understand, which led some people unto their own destructions.
The scripture reads:{Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other scriptures, to their own destruction.

Therefore, dear friend, since you already know these be on your guard so that you may carry not away by the error of LAWLESS MEN and fall from your secure position. But grow in the Grace and knowledge of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ. To him is glory both now and forever. Amen. Second Peter 3:15 to 18}

Julian




>Paul,
>
>
>-> You wrote, "Jesus never called Paul the
>antichrist..."
>
>Read, Fast and Pray! He that hath wisdom, and the
>spirit of God will understand the things of God!
>
>1st) Saul of Tarsus was not Jew but allowed to
>be a Pharisee on probation. Of the House of Benjamin,
>adopted into the House of Judah, he was commissioned
>by the Sanhedrin to infiltrate the cult of Christians
>and hasten its demise in Jew society!
>
>2nd) Saul of Tarsus was born Saul not Paul! He
>took the name to hide behind anonymity so Christians
>wouldn't know who he was! God never changed the name
>of a persecutor and murderer of His people!
>
>3rd) Saulist, people who worship the
>antichrist, are saying God is a liar! In Amos 3:7,
>Jehovah/Jesus Christ said,
>
>Amos 3:7
>
> 7 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he
>revealeth (sic) his secret unto his servants the
>prophets.
>
>Yet Jehovah/Jesus Christ never ever told His Apostle
>what He was going to do if He, in fact, was going to
>promote a murder to lead and make doctrine for His
>Church!
>
>4th) Saulist, people who worship the
>antichrist, are saying Jesus Christ is a liar!
>
>Jesus Christ said,
>
>Matthew 18:16
>
> 16 But if he will not hear [thee, then] take with
>thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or
>three witnesses every word may be established.
>
>How many Apostles or even Christians were witnesses to
>any event claimed by Saul of Tarsus?
>
>0! Zero! Nada! Zip!
>
>OH! But there were several hypocritical liars in Saul
>of Tarsus' entourage. But they contradicted Saul as to
>what happened on the road to Damascus! I DON'T
>BELIEVE JESUS CHRIST MEANT CHRISTIANS HAD TO BELIEVE
>SATAN'S WITNESSES!
>
>5th) It was five years after the crucifixion of
>Jesus Christ that Saul of Tarsus found a Pharisaic
>impostor for Ananias and his wife, Sapphire,
>Christians Jews originally living Damascus who Saul of
>Tarsus was blackmailing with the threat of exposure if
>Ananias didn't vouch for him that he was a converted
>Christian! It was five years before Saul of Tarsus
>dared go before the Apostles, with his impostor for
>Ananias who, years earlier had lied to the Holy Ghost
>resulting in him and his wife "giving up the ghost"
>(dying).
>
>6th) No one but Saul of Tarsus ever said that
>he was an apostle of Jesus Christ and he was never
>ordained. For that matter, Saul was never baptized!
>Therefore, as Christ said, Saul of Tarsus was a liar!
>
>7th) Saul of Tarsus was never baptized a
>Christian as he claimed.
>
>8th) Saul of Tarsus was never ordained but in
>his words, only "Jesus Christ appointed him..."
>whatever the hell appoint means.
>
>9th) Jesus Christ said, "Search the scriptures
>for in them ye have eternal life!
>
>10th) Saul of Tarsus gave 4 contradictory
>versions of "his conversion," three in Acts and 1 in
>Galatians! Indeed, a contradiction is lie of Satan!
>
>11th) 35 year old Saul of Tarsus pressed a 15
>year old, pagan, Grecian lad and into his service as
>His Physician and berdache so Saul could the
>fraudulently write Gospel According to Luke and the
>Acts of the Apostles, the later which would center
>around "the ministry of Saul of Tarsus" so he could
>write himself into the Christian hierarchy and
>introduce false doctrine and bring about the demise or
>the cult in Jewish society.
>
>12th) Saul usurps the authority of the Apostles
>by appointing 9 others as Apostles
>
>13th) Being schooled in Greece, Saul of Tarsus
>knew that in the first Century A.D., the word
>"Apostle" was also colloquially used to mean a "devout
>followers of someone or like we would say in the 21st
>Century, "a groupie."
>
>14th) Additionally, Jesus Christ said,
>
>John 5:31
>
>"If only I testify of myself, it is a lie!"
>
>No one but Saul of Tarsus ever said he was an Apostle
>
>15th) Saul of Tarsus even taught that the
>Gospel of Jesus Christ was actually his -- "my" --
>Gospel, taught numerous doctrine contradicting Jesus
>Christ and asked the members of Jesus Christ's Church
>"to follow me." They are to this day!
>
>16th) The bonafide, true and ordained Apostle
>John said,
>
>1 John 2:18
>
> 18 ¶ Little children, it is the last time: and as ye
>have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are
>there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the
>last time.
>
>--------------------------------------
>
>1 John 2:22
>
> 22 Who is a liar but he that denieth (sic) that
>Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth
>(sic) the Father and the Son.
>
>
>--------------------------------------
>
>1 John 4:3
>
> 3 And every spirit that confesseth (sic) not that
>Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and
>this is that [spirit] of antichrist, whereof ye have
>heard that it should come; and even now already is it
>in the world.
>
>--------------------------------------
>
> 2 John 1:7
>
> 7 ¶ For many deceivers are entered into the world,
>who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the
>flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
>
>
>The evidence is overwhelming! Saul of Tarsus was a
>liar of Satan and the antichrist however, the words of
>Jesus Christ are sufficient in and of itself!
>
>A word to the wise, for a true understanding of the
>Gospel of Jesus Christ, rely only on the teachings of
>Jesus Christ or His bonafide, ordained Apostles and
>not the minions of Satan!
>
>True Christians and believers in Jesus Christ and the
>Gospel of Jesus Christ shun Satan and his minions in
>whatever form and rely only on Jesus Christ and his
>ordained Apostles.
>
>Choose ye this day whom you will serve , Satan of God.
>
>Know the truth and the truth shall set you free from
>Satan!
>
>I pray everyone will become a true Practicing
>Christian and avoid Satan's "20th Century Born-Again
>Christianity," the antichrists of the 20th Century!
>
>Choose you this day whom you will serve, God or Satan!
>I pray you'll choose to serve God!
>
>
>
>David R.W. Wadsworth
>Servant of the Most High and One True God
>
>El Santuario Escondido
>10387 Tioga Lake Drive
>Escondido, CA 92029-5405
>
>(760) 743-5293
>
>drww@home.com
>
>THE MILLENNIAL DISPENSATION
>
>http://members.home.net/drww/drww/david/
>
>NOTE: Amor gignit amorem (Love begats love). Remember,
>whether your God is an entity; a personage; a spirit;
>omniscient; omnipresent; objectivity, enlightenment,
>intelligence or a concept, God is Love and Satan is
>hate!
>
>Love and sex, while one can enhance the other, they
>mutually exclusive and come in a variety of forms and
>fashions the beauty and morality, of which depends
>upon its expression.
>
>Man can be assured his God was created in his own
>image when his God hates the same people he does.
>
>Is anyone so absolutely positive that their beliefs
>are in fact true, void of any clearly definable proof
>to the contrary, that after being able to exercise
>their God given right to freely make a choice, they
>would condemn someone else for making a different
>choice? Such is the Plan of Satan!

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