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Rev. William Moore
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Date Posted: 04:14:20 08/10/03 Sun
In reply to:
Bryan Reed
's message, "Re: God" on 00:27:01 08/10/03 Sun
>But nobody has ever claimed that you are so nobody
>cares to prove or disprove it and certainly nobody
>nobody has faith that you are.
You point is? Claims and faith are irrelevant to truth. This is about truth, right?
>A large scale show of power would be in order.
As it would for your "god", but so far his display is unimpressive for some reason.
>Because nobody has faith in you as a god.
..who gives a damn about faith? The truth isn't effected by any faith. The world would *still* be round even if no one had faith that it was. The truth is the truth whether not people have 'faith' in it or not. You speak of faith like it's somehow relevant.
>That's just it, God has never claimed to be a devine
>being... or at least not for several thousand years.
>If there is anything to the stories then he proved
>quite decisively then.
God hasn't (a sign of his nonexistance), but many people (the religious) obviously DO make the claim on his behalf. Thus, the burden of proof does indeed fall with them.
>It's of no concern really. It's never been claimed
>that the fate of your immortal soul has anything to do
>with whether or not you believe in these things or
>not.
What? all the religions say that shit.
>Really it is a little different because here
>something, perhaps greater than everything, is at
>stake if you are mistaken. For the most part, I think
>for some people believing in God is like buying
>insurance. You never really know if it is going to pay
>off or not so you might as well just pay your policy
>just to be safe, only choosing to believe in God
>doesn't cost you anything. I suppose it can if you are
>all into the giving your tenth to the collection plate
>and forking over large sums of cash to
>tele-evangelists. According to some this is absolutely
>necessary. I don't think so.
What if it possibly necessary suck a cock to get into heaven? WOuld you do it 'just in case' for precautionary insurance? What your suggesting isn't much more logical than that. Being a Muslim doesn't cost you anything, so why don't you convert so you don't possibly piss off allah? This is reality, not some sort of RPG.
>What a bunch of sheer luck that we have evolved from
>the single celled primordial ooze to become what we
>are. Perhaps I should worship infinite possibility and
>corresponding eventual probability if that is all that
>it took. Perhaps I already do. Dare I pray to infinite
>possibility that a certain desired probability become
>my present day reality?
No, there is no need to worship or pray to anything. It seems like it's a nesessity to do so. Some of us find no need to be down on our knees.
>I'm not sure whether it is scientific fact or
>scientific theory but I remember something about how
>energy is everything and how, no matter what, it
>always exists in some form or another. Therefor, if
>this is scientific fact and not scientific theory, the
>energy that began it all, whether the oriinal true
>first life spark came from spermatazoa or embryo, it
>will continue to exist in some form long after your
>passing. It will continue to exist forever. If it is
>scientific theory then never mind.
Yeah, energy... and your point? This energy isn't an imnipotent sentinent enity.
>Being an athiest has made you decidedly unreasonable.
>At least in this regard.
Are you saying that if somebody threw a stone into the air, and expected it to come back down, that would be unreasonable?
>It's all a personal choice, what do you feel, what do
>you not. Of course those that have them are tought
>them to start but a lot of times these mutate through
>time. Based on the same principle a lot of times but
>many times not.
If people want to believe in gods to make them feel better, more power to them. Whatever gets them off.
>I'm beginning to think that the land is a large factor
>in this.
Explain, step by step, how that works?
>It's the original escape into fantasy perhaps. When
>prolems of this world are so great that you don't have
>anywhere to go, then why not indulge a little fantasy,
>maybe there is some hope there, maybe something to
>keep you from giving up and blowing your brains out
>all over the garage wall, which by the way would be
>one very decisive way to prove, at least to yourself,
>whether there actually is a God or not.
Of course there is nothing wrong with indulging in a little fantasy... but it is *still* fantasy, and not reality.
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