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Date Posted: 11:08:12 12/22/02 Sun
Author: Shawn Kniesly
Subject: Re: Victor Glass wtf are you?
In reply to: A little more educated..... 's message, "Victor Glass wtf are you?" on 15:19:38 04/04/02 Thu

>*How could a so-called "car guy" think a big dumpy
>Cavalier is a Pontiac GTO just because it has rear
>wheel drive and a Chevy engine?*
>
>Big Dumpy Cavalier? It isnt even a cavalier, the
>cavaier is a front wheel drive vehicle! To put it in
>your terms: how could a so called "car guy" think that
>a front wheel drive vehicle is the same as a rear
>wheel drive vehicle? The chassis engineering involved
>is vastly different. If it were that simple Pontiac
>wouldnt need to go overseas to get a rear wheel drive
>vehicle, they would just change what they have.
>
>Unfortunately you epitomise the arrogant yank. Fair
>enough use the comment that it cant be an American
>legend because it isnt built over here...but dont rag
>on a design because you dont understand it. Using the
>emotion of a previous legend to back up your comments
>is a sign of weakness. Fact of the matter is, the GTS
>would blow the doors off any GM/Pontiac product (other
>than the Corvette of course, due to engine/chassis
>detuning.
>
>I bet your one of the people that thinks you have
>stuck it up the Japanese because the new Blazer/Envoy
>swept SUV of the year honors......what you dont
>realise is that it was designed by ISUZU. Maybe you
>should give the SUV of the year award to ISUZU for
>coming up with a winning combination.
Okay,some parts of what the "Realist" has to say is true. In no way possible, is the Holden Manero a CAVALIER/GRAND AM body style. They are a front wheel driven, 4 or 6 cylinder car!? The Holden is a rear wheel driven, V-8 car! The American car industry is falling due to foreign imports, but GM is getting smart. It is appealing to that side of the market that likes those types of cars, and keeping it a American branded vehicle. If Pontiac did not get the GTO (aka Holden), Chevy would have got an Aussie version of an ElCamino to bring over. This is a fact stated by John Sawruk (Pontiac Engineer, and Consultant to Mr. Lutz). Since GM is only allowed to bring over 1 foreign design, Chevy will have to wait a while now. The only reason any other GM car is "shadowed" by the Corvette is because GM Corporate will not allow it's sports car to be pushed out of the Lime Light by a cheaper sports version like the Camaro/Trans Am/GTO. It is very possible these days to take a Camaro, and Trans Am, and now the GTO to out perform a Vette! To do so, would kill the Corvette sales. I am ready for a new breath of fresh air in Pontiac, and Lutz is the guy to do it! just wait and see when the GTO hits the market.....only 18,000 will be available the first production year in the fall of 2003 for the '04 model GTO!

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[> [> [> Re: Victor Glass wtf are you? -- JoeMustang, 11:22:39 01/07/04 Wed

I believe he was referring to the style not the platform. It looks like a over sized Cavalier


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