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Date Posted: 10:33:36 03/11/11 Fri
Author: Lois
Subject: Re: Already determined the outcome?
In reply to: George 's message, "Re: Already determined the outcome?" on 07:18:02 03/11/11 Fri

>>>>> >>h
>>>t
>>>>t
>>>>>>>>>Journeying Toward a USA National Conference
>>>>>BY THE USA APOSTOLIC TEAM
>>>>>
>>>>>Q: Has church leadership already determined the
>>>>>outcome on issues of same-gender marriage and
>>>>>ordaining people in same-gender relationships?
>>>>>
>>>>>A: No, church leadership is committed to
>discernment
>>>>>leading to the USA National Conference. This
>process
>>>>>will include spiritual practices, dialogue,
>>scripture
>>>>>reflection, and study of credible resources that
>>>>>provide multiple perspectives on human sexuality
>and
>>>>>healthy, faithful, and committed relationships.
>>>>>--------
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't believe that. Does anybody reading this
>>>>>believe that?
>>>>>
>>>>>Lois
>>>>Eight and counting. James Slauter is president of
>>>>the Council of Twelve.
>>>>------
>>>>
>><
>>>/
>>>>a>
>>>>Community of Christ, Fort Collins, CO, November
>2010,
>>>>The Communicator, pages 1-2
>>>>
>>>>Beck and Coopwood Attend 2010 GALA Retreat
>>>>
>>>>“The weekend’s theme “Living in the Light” was
>>>>beautifully orchestrated by frequent references to
>>>>local native lore and symbolized throughout our time
>>>>together. Our guest ministers were Apostle James
>>>>Slauter, president of the Council of Twelve and
>>>>Kathy Slater, president of the Greater Northwest
>>>>Mission Center.”
>>>>
>>>>“Additional sessions included a discussion of the
>>>>church’s new Sexual Ethics Statement, which
>is
>>>>soon to be published in the Herald and the
>procedures
>>>>and preparations being done by World Church leaders
>>>>for the upcoming 2012 USA Conference.”
>>>>------
>>>>
>>>>Submitted by Lois
>>>>
>>>>Orlando Community of Christ News, May 2004, Issue 6,
>>>>page 1
>>>>
>>>>Listening Circles Introduced to the Congregation
>>>>
>>>>On Sunday, May 16th, Pastor Andrea Henson,
>>>>co-facilitated by Pat McKay, introduced the concept
>>of
>>>>Listening Circles to the congregation.
>>>>The World Church has requested that we form these
>>>>circles in our congregation (6-10 people each) for
>>the
>>>>purpose of listening to each other in a safe, non
>>>>threatening environment. Listening Circles are a
>tool
>>>>that can be used to discuss any difficult
>>>issue. The
>>>>World Church has requested that the issue of
>>>>homosexuality in the Community of Christ be our
>first
>>>>focus
>>>
>>>"First focus" or only focus? Seems like the latter
>>>would be more accurate wording.
>>>
>>>George
>>
>>George,
>>
>>I agree. From at least 2002 I think homosexuality has
>>been the number one focus of the institution which
>>calls itself the Community of Christ. Christ has
>>nothing to do with it or them.
>>
>>Lois
>>
>>
>>Lois
>
>Lois, when the name was changed, it should have been
>changed to "The Reorganized Church of Judas Christ of
>Homphiliacs."
>
>Why? Everything seems to be all about using subterfuge
>to throw everyone else in the ditch, in order to get
>what one wants. There are no rules anymore -- only
>expedience. As I have mentioned before, there are
>several denominations that are prohomosexual, or
>exclusively homosexual, but they make no secret of it.
>The "secret" part is where the evil comes in. "Don't
>ask, don't tell" is actually the de facto motto of the
>church: Don't ask the leaders what they are up to,
>becauae they won't tell.
>
>I suspect that may be one of the reasons that Wally
>left. He would have some idea of the big push to
>legitimatize homosexuality that is now under way. With
>you knowing about it from GALA bragging on their
>website about it, there is precious little that Wally
>could say to divert attention elsewhere. Too much to
>explain. Too much to "not tell."
>
>George

George,

It is called cowardice. When Section 156 was new I knew of a person who said they (gender nonspecific to protect identity) didn't believe that God called women to the priesthood. But if anyone repeated what "they" had said, that "they" would deny it.

When a c-not-of-c member says, "“Christ calls us to serve, but gives us our agency", that means they think it is O.K. to be a practicing homosexual in the priesthood. That means they are on board with the agenda.

Lois

Lois

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