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Date Posted: 19:47:13 02/27/12 Mon
Author: Lois
Subject: Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He told his disciples to "take up their cross and follow" him?
In reply to: George 's message, "Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He told his disciples to "take up their cross and follow" him?" on 18:33:40 02/27/12 Mon

>>>Jesus told his disciples, "Take up your cross and
>>>follow me."
>>>
>>>What did he mean by this?
>>>
>>>Do we treat the Bible in its cultural and historical
>>>context, checking to see who is speaking, and
>>>specifically to whom he is speaking? Or do we
>>>extrapolate to make this a "commandment" to all
>>>Christians in all ages of the world?
>>>
>>>Regardless of whether I agree or disagree with any
>>>comments made in this thread, I will not be answering
>>>this question, since I am the one who posted it.
>>>
>>>George
>>
>>A true Christian, who takes up their
>>cross, always stands up for the truth and does not
>>waver.
>>
>>Let me give an example of what it does not look like.
>>
>>I don't believe that there is such a thing as a
>>conservative Community of Christ member. Conservatives
>>within the Community of Christ (formerly the
>>Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day
>>Saints, since this began a long time ago) either got
>>kicked out of the institution or left in despair or
>>disgust or boredom. The people who label themselves
>>"conservative" in the cofc will almost certainly let
>>the train roll over them again when the National
>>Conferences convene. Those conferences are about the
>>agenda of same-gender marriage and homosexual
>>priesthood. The c-not-of-c is already doing those
>>things, it just wants to make it official by
>>"spiritual discernment". The Canadian conference and
>>the Australia/New Zealand conference will be this
>>year. The USA conference will be next year immediately
>>following the World Conference.
>>
>>"Conservatives" still in the c-not-of-c have
>>historically abdicated their moral responsibities. I
>>suspect they will again. It is, after all, their
>>pattern.
>>
>>Lois
>
>That is a much different answer from what I expected.
>But, if I knew what to expect, I wouldn't have asked.
>
>George

George,

Surprise!!

Yesterday we started studying the sermon of King Benjamin in Mosiah Mosiah 1:38-130 and 2:7-50 and 3:8-21.

In the chapter right before this in The Words of Mormon, only one chapter, we see this. King Benjamin and his people had to clean up a mess of contention.

23 And it came to pass that after there had been false Christs, and their mouths had been shut, and they punished according to their crimes;

24 And after there had been false prophets, and false preachers and teachers among the people, and all these having been punished according to their crimes;
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I do not believe that it is God's way, or the way of the righteous, to punish someone for their beliefs. False teachings lead to crimes, which are observable behavior.

The false prophets, false preachers and false teachers of our day are those who have masquaraded as spiritual leaders. They have taught the younger generation to ignore the commandments. One must feel extremely sorry for our younger generations.

Lois

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Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He told his disciples to "take up their cross and follow" him? -- George, 19:31:32 02/28/12 Tue