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Date Posted: 15:33:53 05/22/11 Sun
Author: Lois
Subject: Re: Hiding Information
In reply to: George 's message, "Hiding Information" on 20:03:22 05/17/11 Tue

>I noted with some interest today an article in
>Bloomberg that attributed the current financial crisis
>to a deliberate dismantling of the 150 year old
>financial information system.
>
>The author claimed that as the system operates today,
>courts cannot even order foreclosures of properties
>because the financial and real estate accounting and
>recording rules are so nonexistent that the court
>cannot identify the true owner of the property and the
>real mortgagee. Many properties were listed as held by
>a shell corporation, rather than the actual
>lienholder. He lamented that in such an environment,
>no deals can be made because risk cannot be assessed
>with assets and debts hidden off the books, and
>accountability lost in a hall of mirrors.
>
>I would agree with him. The same problem exists in the
>CofC, where information is withheld, and/or distorted
>in such a way that common consent is no longer
>possible. The claim presented to the NCC that the CofC
>was NOT founded by Joseph Smith, Jr. is a case in
>point.
>
>As Leonard Pitts wrote in an editorial in the Houston
>Chronicle last year, without information, it is
>impossible for a people to consent to anything. "They
>can only be led like sheep. And we all know what
>happens to sheep."
>
>George

http://www.cofchrist.org/usaconf/journey.asp
Journeying Toward a USA National Conference
BY THE USA APOSTOLIC TEAM

Q: Has church leadership already determined the outcome on issues of same-gender marriage and ordaining people in same-gender relationships?

A: No, church leadership is committed to discernment leading to the USA National Conference. This process will include spiritual practices, dialogue, scripture reflection, and study of credible resources that provide multiple perspectives on human sexuality and healthy, faithful, and committed relationships.
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They are a pack of liars. They are not waiting at all. They are already ordaining openly homosexual people. Have they silenced the people who ordained them? Ordinarily I would not publish someone's name this way, but if I don't give the references I will of course be called a liar. Well, you know I will be anyway. Will they announce these ordinations in the Herald or on their website?
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http://www.galaweb.org/content/newsletters/GALA221.pdf

page 7

The GALA Nominating Committee for 2011 was appointed at the January 2011 Board Retreat and is composed of three (3) Board members: Clyde Frey, Chairperson, Chuck Hewitt, and Erin Cavanaugh and two GALA members: Keith Carter and Arthur Butler.

http://www.welcomingcommunitynetwork.org/wcnnews200904.pdf

page 1

Keith Carter, a gay member of the Community of Christ - Walnut Creek, California congregation, reports that since it became a WCN congregation, there have been several ways it has shown support of the LGBT community.

http://www.sierrapacificmission.org/uploads/documents/SPMC_March_newsletter.pdf

Volume 6, No. 2 April-May-June 2010
SIERRA PACIFIC USA MISSION CENTER
MISSION NEWS

Page 5

ORDINATIONS

Walnut Creek congregation: March 21st - Judy Howe and Keith Carter to the office of Elder.
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Submitted by Lois

<http://www.cofchrist.org/news/2010/june/IntoTheFuture-Veazey.pdf

Steve Veazey says, "Another nonnegotiable for me is priesthood support of World Ministries Mission Tithes.

Soon, we will put in place an administrative policy that will state clearly that we will not approve the ordinations of people whose understanding of the gospel and ordained ministry does not include awareness and support of the worldwide ministries of the church through tithing. We’ve had way too much drift in local congregations and mission centers on this matter."

(Lois's comment) It's only about the money.

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